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Feeling resentful

52 replies

NoNoNoMYDoIt · 15/07/2012 16:54

Didn't want to post this in AIBU, but it is one really.

As always, there is a long story. But to cut it short, I am divorced, have two DCs (6 and 3), and a shared residence agreement with their father. I own my own home, work part-time and support myself and the children, with a small amount of maintenance from their father.

My partner is a fair bit older than me, separated, has adult children. He hasn't divorced (another long story). The financial settlement he has agreed with his wife means that when they sold the marital home, she got all the equity and bought a house with it, so she is mortgage free. He took all the marital debt (a MASSIVE amount) and he pays her spousal maintenance. She works but earns substantially less than him.

So - he has no house and a massive amount of debt, which he is trying to pay off as quickly as he can. He officially lives with his parents, but spends no time there really. He rents a house through work - which work pays for, as his job means he has to travel.

He stays with me 4 - 6 nights a week. He wants to move in (another story). But he can't really afford to give me any money towards the bills because all of his incomings go on the debt and maintenance to his wife. He has offered to pay me £200 a month, but I know that if he gives me that, it just prolongs the debt situation as it is £200 a month he is not paying off his debt. And anyway given my mortgage is 4 times that before even any bills / food, I feel it's a bit of an insult really. But I think that is because I am resentful - and possibly unreasonable?

I don't feel it's my place to comment on the settlement he has agreed, which has left him penniless. But I do feel resentful that he wants to come and live with me and my kids and yet can't contribute.

This is having a negative impact on the way I feel about our relationship. But it's not something I know how to fix. I have to accept this situation for the way it is, right? Because there isn't anything I can do about it, is there?

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Kernowgal · 15/07/2012 21:31

If you're feeling resentful before he's moved in, it doesn't bode well for the future, does it?

I think he's got a bit of a cheek, actually. It's a derisory offer on his part.

Kernowgal · 15/07/2012 21:32

Also if we're talking tens of thousands of debt, does he have an IVA set up and is it this he's paying back? Has he considered bankruptcy or would this affect his employment?

ElusiveCamel · 15/07/2012 21:39

You do realise that, if she were so minded, his dw could divorce him for adultery and cite you as co-respondent?
You can only divorce on the grounds of adultery if you were living together at the time of finding out about it and that made it intolerable to live with and that you separated within 6 months of finding out. You cannot just divorce someone on the grounds of adultery in the UK because you are still legally married (but separated) and they have started a new relationship.

ThePigOnTheWall · 15/07/2012 21:41

Did he leave his wife for you OP? Why all the guilt?

solidgoldbrass · 15/07/2012 21:47

He sounds like a right cocklodger, and one who is keeping the door open to go back to his XW with a free ticket to shag around as much as he likes as long as he doesn't 'leave' her.

Downandoutnumbered · 15/07/2012 21:48

OP, listen to solidgoldbrass - she speaks good sense.

Losingitall · 15/07/2012 22:01

So this agreement isn't a legal contract or divorce settlement? Is he thick??? Tell him to get the divorce sorted, get the financial side settled in a more equitable way and then consider your future together.

storytopper · 15/07/2012 22:49

His wife is taking him to the cleaners - and for some reason he seems to think it is OK to sponge off you to make up the shortfall.

Not a good deal for you at all. Don't let him move in (which he almost has already) - ask him to go until his finances are sorted.

ImperialBlether · 15/07/2012 23:07

Were you seeing him when he was still living at home?

Proudnscary · 15/07/2012 23:25

I also smell a rat of one variety or other.

Why so much guilt towards his wife to the tune of leaving him destitute? Did he have an affair??

You owe it to your children to discontinue this relationship. It won't end happily (but it will end) and they will be dragged into it. Put them first and end it.

tallwivglasses · 16/07/2012 00:36

Stop enabling him and I reckon he'll follow the script to a T - see the error of his ways and beg his wife for a second chance.

Hope I'm wrong OP.

mrscynical · 16/07/2012 07:09

His kids are adults yet his ex gets a mortgage free house and he takes on all the debts?

I don't believe him and neither should you. Why did they get into so much debt? Why does he 'officially' live with his parents - who cares anyway? Why, if he is being so ridiculously generous to her can he not get a divorce?

He is lying. Get rid of him before you find yourself in debt. He sure as hell won't be paying that debt.

charlearose · 16/07/2012 08:10

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NoNoNoMYDoIt · 16/07/2012 09:02

I was seeing him while he was living with his parents but before his house sold

He is paying off his debt. He has shown me his card statements and the payments he has been making

I am sure he won't go back to her. But I need him to act and execute what he has been promising for so long - ie the financial agreement and divorce. But he won't

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ThePigOnTheWall · 16/07/2012 09:06

So is it the exW of him that "doesn't want" the divorce?

ThePigOnTheWall · 16/07/2012 09:06

or him

NoNoNoMYDoIt · 16/07/2012 10:04

He says he wants the divorce but his wife doesn't. He won't force it. I think he should just issue papers. Have said so but to no avail.

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AThingInYourLife · 16/07/2012 10:31

Issue him with "papers" then.

This situation is untenable and ludicrous.

solidgoldbrass · 16/07/2012 10:36

Look, this man ticks various boxes for a classic loser. Older than you, no money, bitter breakup, won't get divorced, wants to get his feet under your table.
IN a couple of years time, once he's saddled you with a bucketload of debt, he will be off after an even younger woman, because he thinks he's such a fucking marvellous catch - I would imagine he's either very good looking or glamourous in some other way (a musician/artist of some type?). He gets off on the idea of all these women pining after him and manipulates situations so it's hard for them to get rid, even though he is off fannyratting elsewhere.

He'll carry on doing this until his looks go and then one 'lucky' lady will be the one stuck with changing his incontinence pads and picking up his pension.

NoNoNoMYDoIt · 16/07/2012 12:06

SGB - not particularly glam or good looking. His main attraction is that he is a lovely kind and thoughtful man. I know you won't believe it but that is the truth...

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Viviennemary · 16/07/2012 12:06

I agree with solidgoldbrass. He can't upset his wife but can upset you. Let him be somebody else's problem.

dequoisagitil · 16/07/2012 12:08

He may be lovely and thoughtful, but he's not in a place where he can be a particularly good partner - yet.

I'd just keep seeing him if you're keen, but wait on the moving in.

Offred · 16/07/2012 12:14

I think you would be crazy to move in with someone with so much debt and on cards too. Whatever the reason behind it I would want the debts sorted and the divorce through before I considered any type of serious relationship.

unhappyhildebrand · 16/07/2012 14:56

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RabidAnchovy · 16/07/2012 15:25

Tell him no divorce, no relationship