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and feel so sad, its hard to find the energy to carry on, just want to lay down and give up

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soontobedivorced · 14/07/2012 23:26

Alone and sad, need to ramble a bit.

I instigated a split with ex-h almost 2 years ago after many years of unhappiness. We had been together almost 20 years. The first few years were good but then after 6 years together we lost our first daughter when she was just a baby. It was so traumatic and our lives just fell apart. I got counselling which helped me, he threw himself into his work. But from that point on it was like the metal shutters came down between us and nothing was the same again. We eventually had two more healthy children and I had more counselling, eventually got my shit together and sorted my head out about it all, but I never felt close to him again. He withdrew, would go to work, come home, put the kids to bed and absorbed himself in computer games on the internet (I was a SAHM). It was like our relationship ceased to exist and I was just a housekeeper, there was still occasional sex but minimal foreplay and little to no cuddling during the day. I tried hard to fix it, I found babysitters, encouraged him to go out for the odd meal together but unless I organised it it never happened and it just felt like he wasn't interested. In 8 years of having our children we only went away for the night twice and only because I pushed for it, organised the childcare, found the hotel. I asked him to take me to Florence for a long weekend for our 10 year wedding anniversary but that never happened.

Eventually after more counselling (he would not even come to one session with me) I came to the conclusion that this relationship was not giving me what I needed and never would, I felt like I had tried enough and enough was enough, I deserved some happiness, the catalyst was when he had to work away from home for a week at a time and I realised what when he was away I was relaxed and happy and when he came back I felt uptight and stifled...he could also be very critical, something I noticed my son was beginning to imitate.

After many months of deliberation I sat him down one evening and explained we had to split up and there was no other option as I felt I had tried my hardest and felt he would never change and it was probably wrong of me to expect him to. I had tried hard to overcome my own issues through the counselling. He was devastated, begged me to do counselling, I agreed but only because he was so upset. Inside, I was so angry after many years of being unappreciated. So counselling at that point was a waste of time.

We separated and a month later I plunged into a rebound relationship but this only lasted a couple of months.

Three or four months later I had doubts about my decision, after all we had managed many years together and it had all started off so well. When I asked him to reconsider counselling his reply was that he had got his head around us separating and didn't want to have to go through all of that hurt again, he was angry that I was saying this after he had got himself to this point.

I was still too angry with him to beg so I left it. Also he had written me two cards not long after the separation. On re-reading them it occurred to me that he had written about "wanting" and "desiring me" but he did not mention love once. Not once. He would drop comments about how desireable I was, especially after I had lost weight with all the stress - but not once did he tell me how much he loved me and how much I meant to him - it was more about how much he needed me.

Anyway...this all happened while we were living abroad. A year after the separation began we returned to the UK and again I asked him to see Relate and to at least try and fix things. I asked him three times. He refused. I saw a solicitor and began the divorce process, divorcing him for unreasonable behaviour. Even after this I asked him again to reconsider but his argument was he didn't want to confuse the kids.

Now the divorce is about to be finalised and I feel so so sad. I feel guilty and responsible because I initiated everything - but at so many times I gave him the chance to try and fix things and he refused, so surely if I had meant anything to him he'd have agreed? Too late now but I'll always wonder.

End of novel. Thanks for listening :)

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03angels · 15/07/2012 00:06

Hi, I'm sorry you've had a rough time, I'm going through something similar ATM. I'm here to hold you're hand if you would like me too Smile

likeatonneofbricks · 15/07/2012 00:50

just remember that he shut you out and didn't even respond to your suggestions about trips away - done nothing at all on his own initiative. So the last thing you should think is that you are guilty! he's more guilty imo, but any divorce is paibful whoever initiated it (someone had to). He's extremely passive (and poss passive agressive at times i.e. criticism), and that's not you fault.

likeatonneofbricks · 15/07/2012 00:53

I think your energy is sapped by these efforts with him, please try to shift mental focus from him to the children and something bew to do in your spare time. Try exercising or yoga - it does help to clear the mind as you ae stuck on HIM atm, and he really should NOT be the centre of your universe.

likeatonneofbricks · 15/07/2012 00:54

*new to do

solidgoldbrass · 15/07/2012 01:24

You'd never 'fix' him. This is a man who considers you a 'woman', not a person, ie something that exists to do housework for him and raise his children and offer him an orifice or two to have sex in. As far as he's concerned, you're somewhere between an appliance and a pet, you're not supposed to have needs or wishes or opinions, and the only reason he's whining at you to do more counselling (you've done shitloads and it hasn't worked) is because he doesn't fancy having to cook his own tea or wash his own pants.

baskingseals · 15/07/2012 08:38

alone, you have done the right thing. your life will be better than it is now.

really feel for you, and sending you the very best wishes. x

soontobedivorced · 15/07/2012 10:34

Thanks for your messages, its really helping me to clear my head to get other perspectives.

I still care deeply for him but was so unhappy felt he left me no choice but to get out for my own happiness.

But now he's acting like the victim and how much I hurt him and I feel like it is my fault for not doing the counselling straight away - although as you know I did offer many times later on. So with our divorce imminent I am trying to get straight in my head that this is not all my fault. Esp as he told the kids we split up because I didn't love him any more, this is what my eldest told me!!! Had this out with him yesterday when he dropped the kids off as regardless of what he believes he can't blame this on me, he claimed to have said no such thing and called my eldest out (without me present) and claimed to have now put it right, ie that it was mutual. Wish I had stayed to make sure he was more truthful.

Also have the usual fears of will anyone ever love me again, and then I get sentimental and remember the good times with ex-h and think did I make a huge mistake. But the past two years I have been convinced in my own mind that it was the right decision, I think I'm only doubting myself now because everything is getting so final.

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soontobedivorced · 15/07/2012 10:51

I should add that the only reason I didn't leave him before, apart from the fact that I was overwhelmed with bringing up small children, was that I honestly did not think I could cope without him. I think I was dependent on him as he was on me. Then when he had to work away I realised that actually I could function quite well without him. When he eventually moved out I was terrified. Then it gradually dawned on me that I had been doing everything already mostly on my own, that I didn't need him and had already been doing it anyway...I know it sounds obvious, but it wasn't to me.

All he did was earn the money and put the kids to bed every night to give me a break. And do the DIY and garden. I don't miss the relationship at all - because there was no relationship.

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skyebluesapphire · 15/07/2012 16:13

I think its a normal reaction to feel like this when it gets close to being final.

Im going through a divorce that I dont want, but I started, as my H walked out saying that he didnt love me any more. He refused to go to Relate saying that there was no point, that his feelings had changed over time.

It is a horrible feeling to do something that you dont really want to do, when you do still love/care for that person, but have no other choice.

But in your heart, you know that its the right thing to do.

Guiltypleasures001 · 15/07/2012 21:18

Sorry if I might sound a bit rambly but this is an initial take on this off the top of my head.

You grieved for the loss of your child, because you had no choice, couldnt change the outcome couldnt save her, so it was out of your hands, I know what this feels like.

Losing this relationship is a form of grief as well, but unlike before you might feel that it can be saved, perhaps you think if you try harder it will change the outcome. Grief and loss do funny things to us, we dont accept it until we are forced too, and he is forcing you to accept it. I think in a way he is coming to terms with his grief, for the relationship and maybe even the events from years back. i think hun you need to leave him to work through this, and move forward with your own life and thoughts.

Divorce isnt the final say on anything, its a legal process, you dont divorce your feelings, they just fade and life throws other stuff at you as a distraction.

I would leave him in peace, and build on the relationship with the kids and him .

soontobedivorced · 15/07/2012 22:53

I guess what I am trying to settle in my mind is was this all my fault. But if I tried to put it right and he refused then surely it was a joint decision...I can't help but feel responsible because I initiated the split. But surely he drove me to it anyway, a woman can only take so much.

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HotDAMNlifeisgood · 15/07/2012 23:06

Don't look at it as "fault" or as "he drove me to it", maybe.

Look at it as the fact that you know your worth, you know your own mind, and you know what you will tolerate - for yourself, and as a healthy environment for your DC to be raised in. And this relationship wasn't providing any of that.

And you did try bloody hard, and for a very long time, to make it all work. It's OK to say "This isn't working for me." It really is.

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