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Emotional affairs my experience (and the difference between normal friendships)

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lifeshocker · 10/07/2012 12:12

Just wanted to write about mine and my husbands experience with an emotional affairs and how I would distinguish them from normal friendships.

Five years ago I had what I now recognise as an emotional affair. At the time my sister was very ill with cancer (thankfully better now) I was working with two children and also doing a part time MAsters. I carried on as normal but was going under with stress and anxiety. Instead of confiding in my husband I instead started a very close relationship with a man who I met through work. Although our friendship was originally out in the open it became increasingly more secretive through time.
I confided in him instead of my husband how I was feeling. If I had a Bad day I would talk to him instead of my H. Texts and emails built up and I began to hide my phone. I would even take it to the bath with me. I started to deteach from my H and attach to him. All the time I reasoned to myself that it was harmless, I was hiding it all because my h would be jealous of my innocent friendship etc.
Eventually it all came to a head when I met the other man for lunch and he tried to kiss me this was a massive wake up call to me I realised that it wasn't what I wanted, finished the friendship and instead put all my emotional energy into my marriage

Fast forward five happy years later then we had a bad year.I lost my job and we eventually lost our house due to debts, at the same time my husband lost his dad and close friend. He didn't deal with this very well and started going out a lot drinking, smoking again and also developed a close friendship with a woman from work. He had other friends but this was different. He saw her all the time his phone was constantly going with texts from her. He always had his mobile on him, even taking it to toilet with him.
I got very threatened by their relationship spoke to her who said they were best friends but there was nothing sexual. I found inappropriate texts and photos she had sent him of herself. This created another major argument I told him to stop seeing her he refused and we temporarily split up. Even when we tried to get back together her presence was all over our relationship. He still wanted to see her, she still texts all the time. She used to call me assuring me there was nothing going on. I asked her to back off and give our marriage a chance but she wouldn't or couldn't.
I felt like I was going mad turning into some paranoid insecure wreck. Why couldn't I cope with their friendship when other people had friends of the opposite sex?

It all came to a head after a night out where she decided it would be appropriate to sit on his knee!
I told my husband it was our marriage or that friendship. Instead of begging him to leave her alone I was very calm and detached. I realised I was better on my own than in a situation that was making me ill. He started to see that we could never solve our problems if he continued with this friendship/affair
Eventually we sorted things out, he had counselling and we are really happy. We both talked about the past and we are very happy now, although I am not saying it has been easy.

I think that both of us had emotional affairs and both excused these as friendship when they were really a step down the line to having a full affair. I honestly think having an ea is the steps that "nice people" take before going on to the full blown affair.
I think I am writing this to warn people of the dangers of emotional affairs, if you are going through a bad patch and start to get close to someone from opp sex please see the warning signs. It nearly destroyed my marriage

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lifeshocker · 13/07/2012 13:07

keep coming on mums net although I did talk to my real life friends it was the mums netters who helped me stay strong and find my self respect. AF, saffymum, male view and many others
at the moment you are not emotionally ready to take charge of this situation. It is so hard when you really love someone isn't it?

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MadAboutHotChoc · 13/07/2012 13:23

Kaykat

Sad how awful

The problem is that he knows you won't leave him and he has all the power.

No wonder he has checked out of the marriage and he is taking the piss out of you. He will continue to do this as the thrills and ego boosts he is getting from OW are far too addictive and exciting.

The only thing that works is loss - you need to take control and tell him that your marriage is over.

You need to burst his fantasy fuelled bubble.

You also need to work on your own self esteem - you deserve so much better than this.

skyebluesapphire · 13/07/2012 15:55

Kaykat this sounds very similar to my STBXH, he is living with OW and her H, they have not been totally honest wirh him about the extent of the texting and so far he just thinks they are good friends.

If he had got mad about it then my H would have realised what he was doing but he can't see that he is infatuated with her and the endless contact! He left me saying he didn't love me any more but he suddenly decided that after endless contact with OW.

Mobile phones have a lot to answer for...

Im so sorry you are going through this.

Kaykat · 13/07/2012 18:20

Yes that sounds very similar, only after becoming infatuated with OW he announced I didn't love him and he'd been unhappy for years but if that's true he hid it well.

skyebluesapphire · 13/07/2012 22:52

Kaykat - my STBXH said the same, that he had been unhappy for years.... this is despite the fact that he only turned on me once the contact with her had started... Its all too much of a coincidence...... he wasnt unhappy til he started texting her.

Now my DD (4yo) is telling me how they kiss in daddys van, with their eyes closed......

Nothing going on my arse.....

lifeshocker · 14/07/2012 22:20

kaycat how are you doing this weekend? Hope things are getting resolved you really can't go on like this

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skyebluesapphire · 14/07/2012 22:37

Ive just depressed myself looking back at my STBXH's facebook, around the time that he started to get friendly with the OW. All of a sudden he starts posting his every move on facebook. She "likes" every single thing that he puts on there. He starts posting a lot of songs from you tube with meaningful lyrics. Why oh why didnt I see it at the time?? But when you trust your H and the OW is married to his best mate, why would you think anything odd of it?!

When I checked his facebook after he just moved out, me and OW were the only two people listed as "close friends" , she was the only person with a picture in his mobile that appeared when she rang. Her photo was on his phone as a screensaver "she did it as a joke".

yet the two of them swore blind that they were just good friends...... they are obsessed with each other....

I just wish it would all come out into the open, so that I can know that I am not paranoid!!

An emotional affair is extremely damaging to all 4 partners involved......

AnyFucker · 14/07/2012 22:49

kay you should tell your abusive husband to leave

he has no respect for you, and the fact you are hanging on for crumbs from his table is only going to reinforce that

why are you lowering yourself in this way ?

get some self respect

skyebluesapphire · 14/07/2012 22:52

agree with above. I tried to ignore my H's "friendship" and tried to get him back but nothing worked and I just lowered myself in the process.

The only way is to kick him into touch. If he wants you he will fight for you. If he doesnt, then you have already lost him.

I found that out the hard way instead of taking control of the situation myself, I let him walk all over me.

lifeshocker · 14/07/2012 22:54

facebook I know exactly what you mean he shared songs that were personal to us then she was posting the same song saying it was her favourite. She would post about how she had to go to work but at least she had my ( husband initials) to cheer her up.
The problem with your situation Saphire is the ow is the damsel in distress. Because of the awful and heartbreaking stuff she has been through it will awaken some prime urge to protect her to your husband. It is the same with widows and other men feeling protective. Just my opinion btw.

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skyebluesapphire · 14/07/2012 23:10

yup, they have formed a deep emotional bond, they see it as good friends, they share everything with each other to the exclusion of their partners (ex in my case), they are both in denial as to what is actually going on - or it may have moved on from that now, I really dont know. OW is coming with him each week now to bring DD back - allegedly to see friends her, but its the first Ive heard about any friends living where we live! - now DD is saying things like Daddy kissed OW and do you know, when you kiss you close your eyes.....

So its either moved on to the next level, or DD is getting confused about stuff (she is only 4), but no smoke without fire.....

and her H is so totally blind to the fact that anything could be going on, as he trusts his best mate, even if he doesnt trust his wife! He needs to get his head out his arse and work out whats going on. At the very least, he should ask them both to stop all contact! Thats what I did, and we had already split by then! i told my H that it wasnt healthy, it wasnt fair to his mate and that they needed to cut all contact.

it didnt happen..... People that are just good friends dont need to text all day every day.....

I need to let it go, it has ended my marriage, nothing can change that, but I suppose that i really want H to face up to what he has done and see that it did cause his feelings for me to change.

Maybe he will, maybe he wont.....

lifeshocker · 14/07/2012 23:18

He will wake up one day and realise what he has done by this time you will be happy and have your own life. It all sounds such a messed up situation her poor husband lost his baby and now will probably lose his wife. I really dont know how your husband will cope with the guilt of what he has done to you, his family and his best friend.

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skyebluesapphire · 15/07/2012 00:11

I hope to god he does realise it one day, because he seems so cold and hard at the moment, and has rewritten history to make it ok to leave us. I accept my faults, but he just walked out and I didnt even know he was unhappy. everybody is so shocked when I tell them that. Who the hell just walks out like that, when the spouse doesnt have a clue?!

I want him to get dropped by her, come to his senses and realise what he has done to me and his friend. But not to get him back, its gone way too far for that. I just really want him to see. But it may never happen. Although my counsellor thinks that he will realise one day, but it may not be for a few years.....

She said the bubble needs to burst and at the moment he is still living his cosy life with them in their bubble..........

Kaykat · 16/07/2012 18:26

Skyeblue our situations are very similar. Just been reading up on emotional affairs and every single warning sign applies in my situation. The denial, self justification, secrecy,dishonesty and it's all my fault of course because I never cared about him like she does - what total rubbish. After another weekend with more of the same I told him I've had enough. Don't think he believed me. Thanks for the straight talking lovely mumsnetters I know I deserve better.

ImperialBlether · 16/07/2012 18:37

Kay, why don't you start your own thread? You'll get a lot of support here.

lifeshocker · 16/07/2012 19:34

Kaykat you have done the right thing. When I was in a similar situation I was so terrified of him leaving again I put up with constant phone calls and nights out with her. Once I told him enough was enough the relief was enormous. I told him to leave to give me space in all that time I allowed no contact. He soon was texting, telling friends he couldnt live without me!!
Before that everything was on his turns we are back together now but even if he hadnt come to his senses I can say hand on heart I would rather be alone than be that person again. Good luck and keep in touch.

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