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shit. I think my husband has just left me. hold my hand please...

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whatinthewhatnow · 09/07/2012 00:24

marriage has been a bit ropey for a few months, he's been depressed for years and recently tackled it head on and seemed less depressed but much meaner. lots of arguments. now, today, he's gone to his mum's 100 miles away, and tonight he says he's found somewhere else to live near our home, and that he's gone. our children are 2 and 4 and the 4 year old will be devastated. I think I might be ok. then I don't. Actually I don't. How the hell will I work and look after my children? Why doens't he have to think about that? How could he do it to our kids? That's the thing that is really getting to me. He says he's not leaving them, he's leaving me. But he is leaving them. What the hell do I do?

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StaceymReadyForNumber3 · 09/07/2012 00:37

My XH left when my dcs were the same age as yours. It's shit tbh, but you know when people say time is a great healer? It's really trie. The kids (esp the older one) will obviously be devastated, but they do adjust remarkably quickly.

All I can honestly say is be kind to yourself, love your children, and don't bad mouth their father in front of them (what you say to your friends etc is your business).

As I said its shit but it gets better. In a few years you'll look back from a much healthier/happier place and know it was for the best, right now it's hard to see any future, but take one day at a time and it will come.

I also know its shit you have to worry about childcare for work and he doesn't, I know I felt resentful about this for quite a while) but its something you cannot change unfortunately, and if you did it would mean sharing custody 50/50 with your H. It works for some but I couldn't stand that do I just had to get used to 80% of the children's time is down to me to organise.

And I will hold your hand as long as you need, it's an awful time but slowly slowly things do get better.

Very un-Mumsnetty hugs!

DavidHume · 09/07/2012 00:40

I Have just seen this and didn't want it to go unanswered. Hopefully helpful people will be here very shortly. In the meantime I wanted to send you lots of sympathy and kind thoughts. You must feel that everything is going crazy right now. And I don't think it's not fair on you at all.

whatinthewhatnow · 09/07/2012 00:53

thanks so much. am so all over the place. my mum is coming over tomorrow, I haven't told her yet. stacey your post made me cry due to niceness and did make me feel better. It just feels so unreal.

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StaceymReadyForNumber3 · 09/07/2012 01:09

I would say get some sleep but I also know how unlikely that is right now. Try not to over think things. You cannot work out the whys and wherefores without talking to your H. This may take some time before he can explain/you are in a place to listen and take it in.

I hope your mum is supportive tomorrow. Remember this is not your fault, I tried to blame myself, after a few days I blamed him, now I blame a flawed relationship (although how my XH went about things was far from ideal but that's another story)

You will change your mind about things 100+ times in the next few weeks/months, don't think you're stupid/weak/indecisive etc, it's completely normal, your whole world has been turned upside down and it takes time to come to terms with that.

Oh and try not to worry about the dcs. Mine are now 7 and 5 and are remarkably well adjusted. They are happy to have 2 houses, 2 bedrooms, 2families, 2 christmas's etc. they are different from many friends but it's never caused a problem, they feel special. They know mummy and daddy both love them but do not love each other anymore (they now have a step mum tb and a step dad and a new baby brother/sister on the way, hence me being awake at 1am) kids are amazing, don't beat yourself up!

jynier · 09/07/2012 01:11

witwn So very, very sorry that you have suffered this awful shock. You must be dizzy with all the different thoughts and emotions racing around your head. Try and get some rest tonight. You will receive excellent support and advice from MN but, for now, curl up in bed and let sleep take over if possible. I know that it's easy to say but you will need a clear mind tomorrow/today!

Best wishes to you and your DCs.

SundaeGirl · 09/07/2012 01:32

Oh god. You poor thing.

Why tonight? What's prompted it?

whatinthewhatnow · 09/07/2012 08:11

We had an argument, over nothing really - really about how horrible he's being recently. really snappy and just mean all the time. and then he said he's going. and tbh i didn't believe him, i thought he'd just flounced off, but now he says he's found somewhere else to live. His emotions are close to the surface so he can seem quite dramatic sometimes, but he's never done anything like this before. we are a normal family with jobs and children. I'm so angry.

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Teansympathy · 09/07/2012 08:13

Try and take care of you and your kids do you have any friends around who could help right now and give you support?or family?, know how you feel it happened when my DC was 1year old,. It seems an impossible mountain to climb, BUT you are the strong one here you will cope and for your kids sake THEY will help you see the way forward, I am so sorry this has happened, BIG HUG to you.

Northernlurker · 09/07/2012 08:16

Ok this isn't going to be a nice question at all but is there any chance he's been seeing someone else? It seems very strange that he's walked out today, without warning, and already got somewhere to live.

CogitoErgoSometimes · 09/07/2012 08:30

I'm sorry if this has come as a shock but, look at it this way, your home is now a place of peace and calm rather than nasty arguments upsetting you and making your children anxious. You no longer have to deal with his depression and mood-swings or consult him on decisions.

Support from family and friends will be very important. It's the practical stuff they can help with. Finances, child-care, keeping jobs going. Would strongly recommend you see a solicitor before too long as well. Whether this is a permanent split or just a temporary separation, you need to understand your legal position. Good luck

MadAboutHotChoc · 09/07/2012 08:56

So sorry.

If the snappiness is a recent thing and given how he has already got everything set up, my feeling is that he has another woman.

Has he mentioned a female colleague/friend?
Its very rare for a man to walk away from his family and home comforts for no apparent reason.

As well as being distant and picking arguments, other red flags include being possessive with his phone and spending less time at home.

whatinthewhatnow · 09/07/2012 10:05

thanks so much for taking the time to reply. I feel much calmer this morning. my mum's come over and taken the kids out so I can catch up on sleep. so i'm on mn instead. [weak smile emoticon needed]. I have lots of support from family so on that front I'm ok.

I spoke to him this morning. he's at his mum's still. last night he said in a text message that he's not leaving the kids, he's leaving me. I said that he is leaving the kids and he'll be damaging them by doing it, whatever he thinks. This morning he said that he thought about what I said, doesn't think that the children should suffer because of us, so he wants to come home (!) and live in the spare room (!!!!).

I have said that I'm not prepared to live like that, because it's completely obvious to me that the house would be a place of utter misery for everyone. I have said that it's marriage counselling or nothing. I suspect the place he has found to live is a friend's sofa rather than anything more permanent, although I haven't asked.

I am beginning to wonder a couple of things: firstly is it his depression returning? he came off citalopram about 5 weeks ago after many years. he had counselling at the time and seemed and said he felt much better. I know one of the side effects of coming off it is bad temper, or could this be a rebound depression?

secondly, and this is what I really think: he's unhappy in the marriage, as am I really, and he's not grown up enough to deal with it so he has just stormed off like a fucking teenager without thinking for a second about the consequences, or his children, or his job which he didn't turn up to last night.

Just for the fact that we have been together 12 years and have 2 children, and we were best friends and happy once, I will of course go to counselling with him. ATM everything he says is about blaming me so also a part of me wonders if he is just trying to justify a decision he's already made. I do believe in our marriage, and I can't let a few months of misery ruin years of being generally ok.

I don't think there's another woman. reading mn has taught me that we can never know, though. there's been no secrecy around phones, letters, anything like that, and he hasn't been away/out more then usual. he very rarely goes out and is never late home, although again I know that people can be very clever. I'll bear it in mind.

I am in a good position in that I could, at a push and with difficulty and stress, support myself and the children financially, I think. So I am not bound to him financially.

I do feel that it's not ok that he can just steam off leaving us in chaos and then roll back in again when he's calmed down. It all just seems so unstable. Equally I don't want to throw away a marriage to punish him for this bad behaviour, tempted as I am to tell him to do one right now. I suppose this is stuff that a counsellor could discuss. And I suppose it would help us to understand if the marriage really is over without it descending into shouting and insults.

Is Relate the best?

Sorry to go on so much. Even if nobody's read this far just writing it down is really helping me to sort out my feelings, so thanks mn.

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MadAboutHotChoc · 09/07/2012 10:25

I got the impression that he was staying at a friend's rather than his Mum's.

You sound unhappy - how long has this been going on for?

Couple counselling is a good idea if you both need help communicating issues calmly and sensibly - but if he is not committed to the marriage, its a waste of time.

I would also ask him to see his GP about his depression in case this is the cause of his grumpiness.

solidgoldbrass · 09/07/2012 10:32

While he may not have got another woman, even one in mind, he wants one. Or more. That's what the 'I'll sleep in the spare room' business is about. What he wants is his home comforts but to live like a single man; basically to turn you into a mixture of housekeeper and Mummy.

keepcalmandeatcupcakes · 09/07/2012 12:15

agree with solid , he has realised what he has missed out on by having a comfortable home, with food cooked and clothes being cleaned. By returning home, he will act single, confuse the children yet live under your roof. Whatever the situation, it sounds like you need a break away from him and I would tell him to stay away as he left and you need time to think . Use this time to get yourself some support and advice, for him to go to the doctors and therapy if he needs it, but not by coming home and living with you all. Couples councerlling may help you, but keep him away, if he is acting like a teenager, walking out on you and the children on a regular basis is not the way to go about it! So glad you have lots of family support , take some time out while your mums with you , but please don't just take him back in regards to the children.

whatinthewhatnow · 09/07/2012 12:22

thanks for the good advice everyone. He actually does the majority of the housework so I'm not sure he was missing that, but I do understand the point. I've made it clear that his solution is not acceptable on any level and that either we make our marriage work properly (which is what I want) or it's over. I'll keep you updated.

thanks again. am amazed that people would take the time to try to help me. Blush

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JuliaScurr · 09/07/2012 12:57

rightsofwomen

Lobo · 09/07/2012 23:09

Just seen your post and thought I would let you know that if one of my friends read your post they would think it was me. My husband has suffered terribly with depression for a long time and unfortunately he has just had a major relapse. For me the pinacle was after saying he was feeling unwell for a week or so and then him deciding our relationship was over. He has moved to his new house today.
When he had a breakdown last year we did not realise immediately and tried relate unfortunately when my husband has an 'episode' he focuses on me being the problem and blames all his depression on me. I did not find relate at all useful but this is probably because at the time he was in denial he had an illness and was just focused on moving out.
This time he has not given his medication a chance to take effect like everyone has asked and signed himself up to rent a house.

I would try to persuade him if you can to go to the doctors as it maybe that either he is off his medication or he has become resistant to it.

If you want to chat about anything you can pm me as I understand how hard it is living with someone with depression and how it can make you feel.

Hope you manage to sort it out unfortunately for us I don't think even if he changes his mind I will take him back as it is so unsettling for the children :(
and to be quite honest I don't know if emotionally I could go through this again.

whatinthewhatnow · 10/07/2012 11:36

wow, thanks lobo. it's so hard. am about to take ds to preschool but will pm you later if thats ok. thanks x

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Lobo · 10/07/2012 12:08

Yes thats fine. Hope you are having not too bad a day :)

JuliaScurr · 10/07/2012 18:23

Hope you're OK today

whatinthewhatnow · 10/07/2012 18:45

thank you so much. had a busy day and dh working night shifts so we haven't seen much of each other. he has tried to raise a couple of things (criticisms of me really, although overall he is trying hard to be nice) but I'm quite determined that we ned to only discuss things with the counsellor now. There are things I'm really angry about, particularly that he seems to think it's ok to walk out on us, and generally his emotional instability, but I can't have it all descending into arguing again, and I need to find a way to talk to him without it sounding cruel. So it's a bit of a false front at home at the moment - I'm just trying to manage him until we can get to counselling, for the children's sake. It should be in the next week or so. Lobo I'm waiting for the kids to go to sleep then if it's still ok I'll pm you.

thanks everyone. what a wonderful bunch you are.

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