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Have lived with dp for 10 yrs, just realised he has never cleaned the bathroom in all that time!

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choccychomp · 07/07/2012 15:07

Suggested to him last week that he cleaned it because it (really, really) needed doing, he blustered a bit, said 'hang on a minute' a couple of times and walked out of the room. This weekend I think he has to do it otherwise I'll end up feeling a complete doormat.

We both work, he does about 7-8 hours a week more than me, but I work odd hours so I do all school drop-offs & pick-ups, look after the children until he gets home then we share it (except Tues & Fri when I take them out & he gets 1-2 hours on his own at home before we get back). I do all the shopping, washing, cleaning, school stuff, taking care of money, sorting out plumbers, etc. He does the lawn & most of the gardening (it's his way of winding down at the end of the day), irons his work shirts & we share cooking. If he needs a sock he'll empty the drawer till he finds the right one, then leave the rest lying around till they magically tidy themselves away, he never puts rubbish in bins - (near them but not in), or anything away after he's finished with it. Have given up dusting our very small mantelpiece since the time I had to move 50+ of his things to do it (I'm not ocd, just had a sense of minutes of my life slipping away doing something that should only have taken a few seconds).

Anyway, rant over. How do I get him to see that it's not fair without sounding like a screechy nag? He always has an excuse for everything, and funnily enough it's always somebody elses fault!

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yellowraincoat · 07/07/2012 15:12

Well, I wouldn't say ironing his work shirts is a shared task so it doesn't need mentioning.

My partner is very similar. He is a slob, essentially, and will leave anything boring to have fun. It is infuriating.

Basically I am moving away in September to do a masters anyway but if I wasn't, we'd be splitting up. I suggest that, or a cleaner, or a strict rota.

shrinkingnora · 07/07/2012 15:19

I would say it's his turn to clean the bathroom for the next ten years. He has basically cherry picked the chores he like eg gardening and left you with everything else.

sadwidow28 · 07/07/2012 15:29

Well, 2 weeks after my late-hubby retired (and we completely role-swapped so I got the 'nice stuff' and he got the daily grind) I found that we had a dishwasher....... 4 weeks later he wanted a cleaner! (All paid for by hubby).

I discussed the cleaner thing with him and he said, "I don't get any satisfaction out of cleaning loos". My reply was "Do you think I did?"

It was a wake-up call for him. He had never thought about it before.

I let him pay for the cleaner though - our home was immaculate and it was one less stressy thing.

He turned out to be a better cook than I was as well.....loved doing the ironing with tennis, or snooker or whatever other sport on the TV. Oh, and he loved food shopping! His weekly routine was flawless!

ShellyBobbs · 07/07/2012 15:32

In the 14 years we have been together my hubby has cleaned the bathroom once and mowed the lawn twice, the second time he made me come and have a look at how nice he had done it and to show me that it was easy to put the lines in it. I gave him an indulgent pat on the head and walked back inside Grin I can't really complain though, he does all the cooking for us, half the shopping, some washing when it needs doing and I'm at work. He doesn't ever dust or clean anywhere except the kitchen and needs nagging to empty the bin every day.

You really shouldn't need to tell him to pull his weight, you need to show him why he should do it. Next time he leaves his socks on the floor, bin them. If he leaves all his stuff lying about, put it all in a bag and put it in the boot of his/ your car if you have one, if not then some random cupboard or the loft. Clothes left lying around? Charity bag them. When he has a go, just say the fairies are pissed off with him and ask why he's having a go at you, it's nothing to do with you Grin. Good luck, it took me wiping up pee splashes on the floor with hubbies bath towel to stop him doing that, now he uses a bathroom cleaner and disposable wipe to mop up any spillages.

HotDAMNlifeisgood · 07/07/2012 15:37

Here's my list of dirty chores: buying groceries, carting them home and putting them away; cooking meals and washing dishes and pots; doing the laundry digging out the place when things get out of control; washing floors. The list could go on but the sheer necessities are bad enough. All of us have to do these things, or get someone else to do them for us. The longer my husband contemplated these chores, the more repulsed he became, and so proceeded the change from the normally sweet, considerate Dr. Jekyll into the crafty Mr. Hyde who would stop at nothing to avoid the horrors of-housework. As he felt himself backed into a comer laden with dirty dishes, brooms, mops and reeking garbage, his front teeth grew longer and pointier, his fingernails haggled and his eyes grew wild. Housework trivial? Not on your life! Just try to share the burden.

So ensued a dialogue that's been going on for several years. Here are some of the high points: "I don't mind sharing the housework, but I don't do it very well. We should each do the things we're best at." MEANING: Unfortunately I'm no good at things like washing dishes or cooking. What I do best is a little light carpentry, changing light bulbs, moving furniture (how often do you move furniture?). ALSO MEANING: Historically the lower classes (black men and us) have had hundreds of years experience doing menial jobs. It would be a waste of manpower to train someone else to do them now. ALSO MEANING: I don't like the dull, stupid, boring jobs, so you should do them.

"I don' t mind sharing the work, but you'll have to show me how to do it." MEANING: I ask a lot of questions and you'll have to show me everything every time I do it because I don't remember so good. Also don' t try to sit down and read while I'M doing my jobs because I'm going to annoy hell out of you until it's easier to do them yourself."

"We used to be so happy!" (Said whenever it was his turn to do something.) MEANING: I used to be so happy. MEANING: Life without house work is bliss. No quarrel here. Perfect Agreement.

"We have different standards, and why should I have to work to your standards? That's unfair." MEANING: If I begin to get bugged by the dirt and crap I will say, "This place sure is a sty" or "How can anyone live like this?" and wait for your reaction. I know that all women have a sore called "Guilt over a messy house" or "Household work is ultimately my responsibility." I know that men have caused that sore-if anyone visits and the place is a sty--they're not going to leave and say, "He sure is a lousy housekeeper." You'll take the rap in any case. I can outwait you. ALSO MEANING: I can provoke innumerable scenes over the housework issue. Eventually doing all the housework yourself will be less painful to you than trying to get me to do half. Or I'll suggest we get a maid. She will do my share of the work. You will do yours. It's women's work.

"I've got nothing against sharing the housework, but you can' t make me do it on your schedule." MEANING: Passive resistance. I'll do it when I damned well please, if at all. If my job is doing dishes, it's easier to do them once a week. If taking out laundry, once a month. If washing the floors, once a year. If you don't like it, do it yourself oftener, and then I wont do it at all.

"I hate it more than you. You don't mind it so much." MEANING: Housework is garbage work. It's the worst crap I've ever done. It's degrading and humiliating for someone of my intelligence to do it. But for someone of your intelligence....

"Housework is too trivial to even talk about." MEANING: It's even more trivial to do. Housework is beneath my status. My purpose in life is to deal with matters of significance. Yours is to deal with matters of insignificance. You should do the housework.

from The Politics of Housework

choccychomp · 07/07/2012 22:11

Thanks for the replies, funny to think we could split up over something to trivial. He has done it, because when I stated the facts (managed to do it calmly) he couldn't help but see how unfair it was. Suspect this may have been a one-off and I'll be as fed up as usual next weekend but will keep trying. Dp's slightly old-fashioned and quietly believes that really I should be looking after him and looking up at him in a slightly awed way every time he has an opinion, instead of having my own views and ideas, also am supposed to say 'no, you choose' every time we sit down to watch telly or talk about going out.

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ImperialBlether · 07/07/2012 23:57

Choccy, there's a lot that goes with that old fashioned attitude, like being the only person in the marriage to go to work, to be the only driver (when the two of you are going out - great for nights out) and the one who deals with anything physical, eg the gardening, decorating etc.

He can't have it both ways!

fedup2012 · 08/07/2012 00:16

Oh dear choccy, how long have you been together? It's horrific that he leaves all his socks on the floor for you to pick up. And leaving rubbish BY the bin instead of putting it in? What's that all about?

My DP is similarly, but selectively old-fashioned, like he makes a drama out of making a meal and wants a round of applause for it because it's WOMENS WORK, but he won't organise the finances or the plumber or the garden because he's far too progressive for that and wouldn't want to restrict me from getting involved in MENS WORK. And I'm so much better at getting the crap out of the bottom of the sink than he is.

Mine is bad, but choccy, yours is really really bad.

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