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Awkward Situation with Parents

34 replies

CoffeeMum · 17/06/2012 06:35

I'll try to keep this brief...my parents have just gained a substantial amount of money from a property sale [around £200k]. In the past they have never really given me any financial support - I always had a Saturday/evening job while at home, worked during university, paid rent when back at home briefly. Then I moved out for good, and have been completely financially independent ever since. They did loan me money to buy my first house, but I paid this back within six months. This is all fine, it's taught me to be sensible with money, self sufficient, and have a good work ethic.

The plot has thickened a bit since we had our two DC - they have offered absolutely no childcare at all, not even the odd night of babysitting while DC asleep, not even a day once a year. Again, all fine - not ideal, but they are not obliged to help.

Also relevant, I think, is the fact that we [ie. me and Dh] are very supportive to my parents - we advise them, help them out, give them ALOT of time with their grandchildren although they offer no help with them. They are also very quiet and bit socially awkward, so they are not that easy to have around. But we love them, and they are family, and the DC adore them.

Anyway, since they have acquired this money, they have, fairly lightly commented that they will pay, within the year, for an extension we plan to make to our house [which we genuinely need if one of our DC is not going to have a tiny boxroom bedroom until he/she is 18]. We can pay for this ourselves in around five years time, and planned to do this.

We have refused this offer each time it was made, as it is not the usual dynamic in our family for us to accept financial help from my parents - and also, as the offer has been made so casually and lightly, it would have felt very grabby to immediately throw ourselves on it and grab it IFYWIM? Anyway, the offer was made around four months ago now, and there has not been a peep since. And I can't deny that DH and I are feeling a bit resentful and awkward. We NEVER would have thought in a million years that my parents would offer us this much money, and had never bargained on it. But now that the offer has been made, we do feel it would be bloody nice for them to follow up on it. They know that we are not grabby people, and we have always managed on our own. But now, since they have a fairly huge amount of money that they didn't have before, they could, really afford it. And it would be a nice gesture that would benefit our whole family and their grandchildren.

We know we are absolutely not entitled to this gift, and it's their money to spend as they wish. They have worked hard all their life. But, i just wish they'd never made the offer, however lightly! It's made things really tricky. I feel sure the offer is now off the table because they have since made much smaller offers - eg. we'll pay for the DC's winter coats, DS's karate lessons etc. All of this is lovely and generous, and would have been so wonderful - but it's all been a bit tainted by this underlying knowledge that at one point they were going to make this wonderful big gesture that quite honestly would feel like a reward for DH and I being completely self sufficient and managing with no family help, well, forever really.

Sorry this is a long one, I just need some views on this to help me get my thoughts in order and move forward, because at the moment, it is eating away at me a bit. I've always felt a bit sad that we get neither emotional support, childcare help or financial help from them, and now, as they approach retirement, I know they're going to expect alot from us [they live locally] and i'm sure it makes me an awful person, but I just feel a bit gutted.

Thanks for reading Smile

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shinyblackgrape · 17/06/2012 07:33

I'm pleased coffemum. I think you are being really sensible.

Fingers crossed money is still available - pretty sure it will be.

Bring on the builders! Grin

CoffeeMum · 17/06/2012 07:50

Well, shiny, I hope so, it would be lovely!

However, I am realistic enough to know that my parents are retired, and also used to a pretty comfortable lifestyle, so they may feel that giving a large sum to us at this point might leave them feeling vulnerable. I do understand that having a 'cushion' of money must be very reassuring later in life when you have always been comfortable.

But I do need to address it one way or the other, or it's going to be the elephant in the room, and it's going to gnaw away at me!

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Dprince · 17/06/2012 08:05

I am glad you have made that decision coffee. Maybe next time someone offers help you will know not to go to your default setting of no.
I get it though, it always my reaction to my parents offers as well. Sometimes wish I was like dbro who never asks but takes them up on every offer. but then mum doesn't interfere in my life and lets me get on with it. So its win win for me. :)

stillstanding · 17/06/2012 08:05

Coffeemum, I think you are being very sensible and not grabby at all.

The fact is that you are not entitled to anything, money, babysitting or otherwise. I personally find it quite helpful to remind myself of that regularly in my own circumstances, particularly when I see my mum spending lots of money on very luxury items when I could do with the cash for more basic ones. But the fact is that it is her money and she deserves to spend it on whatever she wants. Hopefully I will get that chance (ie to enjoy the fruits of my labours) some day to. I also know that since my father has died, mum has felt quite vulnerable about money. She had a windfall recently which she could have shared amongst us all (and my grandfather suggested that she did so for sound tax reasons) but she didn't want to. I completely get that. She doesn't have any other form of income and wants to ensure she protects her position. My grandfather said the children should get it and then if she needs it later she could rely on us but that isn't really the way things work.

Anyway (bringing this rambling post back to YOU!), I think it is perfectly understandable that this is irking you - you could really do with this money now and an offer was made. I also think it's possible that your parents have reconsidered particularly given that you refused it. If I were them I would also want to ensure that I had a nest egg for retirement, care, comfortable life etc. I would raise it very lightly with them again just to test the lay of the land and then back off. If they want to give the money. they will then do so knowing that you want it but will equally have the space to back off. Keep reminding yourself that you are not entitled to it - not always easy, I know, but always true.

Mumsyblouse · 17/06/2012 09:12

I think you sound very nice, your parents haven't really helped out despite being local, and I find their inability to babysit even once a year quite sad really. Of course they don't 'owe' you anything, but equally I find families work best when everyone is generous and look out for each other, and give lifts/help out with babysitting and so on if they are nearby (different if a long way away). You also probably see other families doing this and wonder why your parents don't.

I would just ask about the money, it would be great if you could get the extension done and you are obviously financially responsible and can pay them back (and have done so in the past).

But I don't think you are wrong for feeling a bit wistful about their lack of involvement, not babysitting once ever when down the road is unusual at the very least.

CoffeeMum · 20/06/2012 10:11

Update: Well, I got my act together, and raised the subject very gently with DM. She seemed very pleased that I had asked, and said that they would give us the cost of about 85% of the building work!!! We are absolutely thrilled, DParents seem very happy to have been able to help, and I feel very, very silly Blush

However, all's well that ends well, and I have learned a valuable lesson here - ie. whenever people offer to help you, they, um, actually want to help you! I'd got myself bogged down with it all and couldn't see the reality of the situation, but to be fair, because my parents have done a very good job in bringing me up to be independent and self sufficient, I do find it very very difficult to accept any favours or assistance.

So, thanks to all you sensible wise people who made me see things more clearly Thanks Grin

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TheSkiingGardener · 20/06/2012 12:03

Oh what a lovely update. I'm really pleased it worked out so well.

stillstanding · 20/06/2012 21:40

Lovely, lovely update - am so happy for you, Coffeemum!

DeckSwabber · 20/06/2012 23:23

Perhaps you could ask for the money as an interest free loan/or payments deferred until you can afford it? That way you could get going now and have the benefit of the extension, and they will have the reward of having helped you out. Even if you have to pay every penny back you will save quite a bit on interest and arrangement fees.

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