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to be pissed off at the constant assumptions of addiction on Relationships?

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bogeyface · 16/06/2012 20:19

Prompted by a thread but not about a thread iykwim!

There have been a couple of threads in the last few days about men going out and getting absolutely out of their trees with booze and then either not coming home or coming home and behaving like a wanker.

There is always a large proportion of replies suggesting the the man is an alcoholic, without any evidence of that at all apart from the odd bender. I am not talking about threads where there is evidence of alcoholism, but threads where these comments are made after he has a one off bender.

Why is it assumed that he must have an addiction issue instead of him just being a totally selfish thoughtless twat? Just because selfish and/or violent behaviour happens when alcohol is involved, surely it doesnt mean that the man must be addicted to it?

If a man goes on a total bender once every few weeks or months, doenst contact his OH, becomes abusive or violent when he does come home, turns his phone off etc, then he is a tosser, not necessarily an alcoholic and I am getting very pissed off at the constant assumptions that he must be. It implies that it isnt entirely his fault that he behaves like this, it his addiction, and also detracts from the main issue which is how his behaviour affects his wife and family.

So, AIBU to be fed up with these internet diagnoses that possibly cause more problems than they solve?

OP posts:
Opentooffers · 16/06/2012 22:59

I'm with you bogeyface, having lived with an alcoholic. You seem annoyed about alcohol mis-users being called addicts, which they are not. If you see how addicts are when they detox, you can tell there is a difference. Bingers are't addicts, they don't need a drink in the morning just to feel close to normal. Mind you whatever the label, it's still a good idea to get out before they drag you down with them.

bogeyface · 16/06/2012 23:03

Thats it Open. I have read so many times "He sounds like an alcoholic" and then the OP is shouted down and told she has normalised it when she says that she doesnt think he is.

I agree that a binge drinker is neither healthy nor normal, but I dont believe that they are alcoholics. I agree that getting out before they destroy you is the best thing to do, but sometimes by implying that he has a problem or is ill or it isnt 100% his fault then it can guilt a woman into staying when she may have otherwise found the strength to leave and escape the abuse.

OP posts:
TheHappyHissy · 16/06/2012 23:07

Indeed bogey, you know as well as I do that these twats will use ANYTHING to muddy the waters.

They will adopt the lil boy lost bollocks and try to hang onto us no matter how.

I do think that in the main, those of us that have been there DO say to the OP that the drink/drugs etc is not the main issue. I would definitely say something if I felt that there was an allowance for shitty behaviour due to alcohol.,
depression etc

FWIW, I know that I was seriously depressed and I didn't go around battering people, so that kind of crap cuts no ice with me in general.

if anything i ADD it to the reasons why an OP needs to kick the MF to the kerb and get the hell out.

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