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one about trust

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mrsalwaysawake · 12/06/2012 10:29

Ok, bear with me, this is going to be quite long!

Yesterday DH found he had blood in his wee, so made a GP appointment. He said it felt the same as when we discovered we both had chlamydia not long after we got together, 9 years ago. He'd only had one previous sexual partner (and they'd both been virgins when they met) and I had a bit of a 'history', so it was almost definitely me that gave it to him.
Just before he went out to his appointment, he said to me, "The GP will ask me if there is any possibility of an STD. I know what you're going to say, but is there?"
My reply was, "No, there damn well isn't."

He knows it upset me, and said that he only asked 'for completeness', as if it was something like chlamydia again, and went untreated, one or both of us could end up infertile, and that he would have expected me to ask him in similar circs.
I wouldn't have asked him, if it were me with symptoms. I know I haven't cheated, and I know without asking that he hasn't.

I'm upset that he felt the need to ask. I'm not just upset at him, but having thought about it, I'm also upset with myself, that over the past 9 years I haven't done anything to change his opinion of me. And that we started off in a position where he might doubt me.
He knew when we got together that I had had a number of one-night stands and casual sexual relationships. We were both still with our exes when we initially got together, so both cheated on the exes at the start of this relationship. And possibly the crucial bit - when we'd been seeing each other a couple of months, I kissed my ex. I told him, and nearly lost him, but we got over it and have been solid ever since. But I've always kind of known that I'm already on my second chance, and it still upsets me that I did it. I don't know if DH ever thinks about this.

I'm not sure what I'm asking here - maybe just a different perspective on the situation.

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mrsalwaysawake · 12/06/2012 20:55

He hears me tell him I love him most days. And not in a throwaway 'everyday' sort of way either.
We don't talk about the ex thing, I wouldn't want to bring it up. I guess I think of it as my issue to deal with, and I'm scared of talking about it in case it makes him dwell on it. I think about it every now and then, and whenever I do, it makes me feel all nervous, like it's still a current issue.
I'm a fairly insecure person, I suppose.

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mrsalwaysawake · 12/06/2012 21:07

I don't think he would have bought a house with me and married me and had a baby with me if he actually didn't trust me, but he is in general a grudge-bearer. He hasn't given the impression of being in any way bothered by it for a looong time. I think this really is just my issue.

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JustFab · 12/06/2012 21:13

You know what, maybe even without your previous sex partners and your blip with your ex he would still have asked if there was anything he should know? You clearly feel bad for having sex before him - you shouldn't - and for the kiss with your ex - no need, your dh chose to stay with you - but don't let this become something it isn't.

NicNocJnr · 13/06/2012 07:10

Mrsalwaysawake - please feel free to tell me to fuck off too but -

Read this thread. Read your responses and the way you are chasing your own tail and reacting. I think you are right this is your issue but this thread seems a little more all over the place than it should be.
I think Izzy was justified in her comment in that why would a Doctor skip past the obvious and common of bladder infection and go straight to 'is there anything I should know?' Occam's razor and all that.
However I don't think this is place you should be in after 9 years it reads in a massively unfinished kind of way. I really do think talking to a neutral third party would be beneficial, I see far too much emotional baggage and insecurity to ever be able to have the conversation you need to in regards to his comment without being able to move forward a bit. Imo I wouldn't be able to live as you seem to be, 9 years and a baby and one comment triggers this. Will you still feel like this in 10, 20 years time? It needs to be put to bed. Forgive and forget is a glib reference to what needs to happen, if you have forgiveness then, although the other may never 'unknow', the issue is done and consigned to history; it isn't availalbe to be brought up through the years.
Your baggage needs to be dealt with in order for you to move forward as a couple - it does look like he's not 'over it' sufficiently that when push comes to shove he trusts you, you certainly aren't over it enough to consign it to the murky depths of history and that really isn't fair on either of you.

mrsalwaysawake · 13/06/2012 07:59

Just to put a couple of people straight - the GP did ask if an STI was possible. My husband knew he would be asked this because he knows how to take a medical history.

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mrsalwaysawake · 13/06/2012 08:11

But apart from that, thank you everyone for your thoughts. Even the ones that have annoyed me, because they have helped me to see that my husband is pretty reasonable and is probably not still dwelling on this stuff. It's just me that has the unresolved guilt. He asked a question that many people think was reasonable to ask, and I reacted by getting upset - which is a reasonable initial response - but have unnecessarily made it an issue about stuff that needs to stay in the past.
I think he does see what happened back then as done and dealt with, but I don't think that even if we spoke about it, and he reassured me, that I would stop feeling bad about it. Not monstrously, all-consumingly bad, just that when it crosses my mind I feel bad. Like if you ever did something ridiculous you still get a blush of embarrassment when you recall it.

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amillionyears · 13/06/2012 09:05

I think that in time your bad memories will fade.I think that the incident yesterday,will actually help you to feel better about yourself and the situation ,now that you have processed your thoughts a bit better.

wfhmumoftwo · 13/06/2012 09:39

I hope you can move forward with this and put it behind you. It really does seem like you are beating yourself up for no reason. I dont want to make light of how you are feeling, but really, is one kiss with an ex, very early in your relationship that bad it is causes problems 9 years later? I couldn't live like that.
And i completely understand the GP questions - its just routine process they ask to cross things off the list. When i had bleeding between periods several years ago the first question they asked was is it possible i could have an STI. I didn;t think so, (no reason to doubt DH) but i still went home and said to my husband that the GP asked me. DH just said, well if you have its not from me. End of, not raised again.

mrsalwaysawake · 13/06/2012 13:04

I think, that it's not so much the fact that I kissed someone else 9 years ago. I do see that this is quite small, in the grand scheme of things. I think that what upsets me still is how much I hurt the man I love. I didn't quite love him at the time of the kiss, but by the time I told him, I had certainly fallen completely in love with him. And then I very nearly lost him.

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amillionyears · 14/06/2012 10:32

The hurt you caused him was 9 years ago.
If you havent hurt him since,then you have a very good marriage indeed.

mrsalwaysawake · 14/06/2012 11:36

Thank you, amillionyears, that has made me Smile.
I guess we do pretty well. Not that we don't have our moments... but yes, apart from a few communication issues, we're ok.
I am going to try to focus on the present and future, not the past.

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amillionyears · 14/06/2012 12:25

Hurrah! Smile

SundaysGirl · 14/06/2012 21:01

Good for you that you are going to focus on the present. Because really 9 years of guilt over one snog?

Seems little bit harsh don't you think?

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