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We never buy each other presents

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Julialyne · 04/06/2012 09:35

I had a horrible childhood & my parents died when I was a baby. I lived with foster patents for 12 years & they mentally abused me. They used to buy their own kids presents but my brother &i I had nothing. I was forced to eat whatever was on my plate even if it made me vomit. I ended up anorexic. I was sent to school without any lunch & now I have the start of oestoporosis. I have suffered with depression for 20 years aswell. There was a lot more that they did & I was hit as well.

Ever since then I have always felt that i'm not good enough & I dont deserve to have anything. I've been married nearly 20 years & we have never bought each other presents for anything. I know we won't be doing anything on our 20th anniversary & it's also dh's birthday too. I will be working anyway so it will just be another day. I'm so angry that my foster parents spoilt my childhood bit I don't know how to get past it. I sees Psychiatist & I have seen 5 psychogists & counsellors but nothing helps. No one seems to tell me how to deal with my feelings.

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Lueji · 04/06/2012 10:57

What exactly prevents you from buying your OH presents or him from buying you presents?

And what prevents you from celebrating the anniversary?
Even if you are working, surely you can go out for dinner, cook a special meal, go to the cinema, etc.

PullUpAPew · 04/06/2012 11:02

Oh what a horrible way to be treated, I am very sorry your foster parents treated you that way. I can understand how complicated the feelings around presents must be, and food, and self-esteem generally.

I don't know how to help or advise but I just wanted to say I can hear what you are saying. I know there is a thread for people who had abusive parents and I wonder if they might be able to help you.

PullUpAPew · 04/06/2012 11:04

It's the stately home thread btw.

Julialyne · 04/06/2012 12:59

Thanks everyone. We live in Australia & have no other family to have my 2 girls so we never go out anywhere. I have friends but I'm not on the terms to ask them to baby sit. I wouldn't feel comfortable having a stranger coming to the house either if we got a baby sitter. My older son is 19 but he works eves so we can't leave the girls with him.

I am a self employed beauty therapist & I have 2 other jobs & this year our anniversary falls on a Sat. I have to work ad I won't get paid otherwise.

I've also for the last 20 years had no libido since I got pg. Something happened over night & I've never been the same since. It's due to my childhood trauma. I've had my hormones tested, I'm on medication for depression but I have the same problem on or off medication so it's not that. No one seems to know how to help me. I can't see why DH wants to be with me. I just don't deserve to have nice things as I just feel that I'm not good enough. Dh did have an affair 12 years ago & was going to leave me. I keep saying that he made the wrong choice choosing to be with me.

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chocoraisin · 04/06/2012 19:27

there are no easy answers to your question about how to deal with your feelings, but I think you know that. Going to psychologists and counsellors can be very helpful to understand where feelings come from, but I know what you mean about not being told how to actually change those feelings. I would start by looking into something called neuroplasticity if you just want a factual sense of how to change the habits of how you think. This will give you a general framework to begin with.

Breaking it down to a very basic level, you cannot think your way into a new state of mind (it's like trying to use a toolkit with broken tools in it, to fix the broken toolkit itself - you will never magically be able to do it!). What you have to do is act as if you feel differently. When you do something over and over again that goes against the grain of your established thinking process, you start to create a new neural pathway - which becomes more instinctive the more you use it. The link I've given you says it's like going off the beaten track in a wood. The first time you do it, you might feel like you're lost. But if you go the same way every day for a month, you'll have created a new pathway that is visible and easier to follow.

It's not going to wipe out the way you've thought and behaved for 20 years, but it will become easier in time. Going off the beaten track for you would mean buying presents even when you don't think you should/can or want to. Doing this every time there is a reason to. It may feel strange for a few years even, but one day you'll find it comes more naturally, and your feelings will have changed. You'll no longer be 'off the beaten track' - you'll be walking down a new, but more familiar path.

Obviously there are a lot of things going on for you that are more than just 'we don't buy presents'. But if tackling everything leaves you feeling paralysed, it could just be the starting point you need. BTW - don't just buy presents for your DP. Try buying one for yourself, and see where that takes you. Building self-esteem works the same way, you have to treat yourself nicely (many, many times and many, many ways) through your actions before you feel significantly different. But then, suddenly, you do wake up with a totally new perspective.

You've actually done this before, you just don't remember it because no-one told you that it was what you were doing. When you recovered from anorexia (to whatever degree you feel that you did) you had to begin to do something that felt impossible/frightening and alien - you had to eat more. But over time, you did just that, until you reached a point where the new 'normal' was different enough from anorexia for you to no longer be ill. That doesn't mean you can't remember being ill, or that it is erased from your life story - but it no longer dominates every day, right? That's what you can do with your relationships as well.

sorry for the thread splurge I just hope I've made sense and it helps to think about this as something you have succeeded at before. Good luck x

Julialyne · 05/06/2012 00:36

Thanks chocrasin, that actually makes sense. I just don't think I've had the right help so far. I will see if the treatment is available in Australia.

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