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Feel a little unnerved by my neighbour

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shrodingerscat · 24/05/2012 14:15

I hope this is the right place to post this thread. It is about my relationship/friendship with my neighbour.

She and her family moved in next door a year ago. We have formed a friendship, but there have been a number of things said and behaviours that have made me feel uncomfortable. Lots of little things that, individually, aren't a big deal, I suppose; but the cumulative affect has made me wonder whether she is actually not a very nice person.

I don't want to make this post really lengthy (and tedious), so I'll just stick to the latest comment she has made to me.

We were in our gardens yesterday, I was with my DC. I am going on a trip next month, which is a physical endurance challenge abroad. She knows about this. She noticed I had a couple of plasters on my arm, and I explained these were vaccinations for my trip. She asked me how the training was going, I said it was hard work etc. She then asked after my DC, remarked how they were having fun. I think I made some joke about them being harder work than the training. The conversation then moved to children, my youngest is nearly 3, she asked will I have any more? I said absolutely not, I'm too old, we're happy we can do a lot more now they are older. Hopefully you get the picture. Hopefully, you'd understand from all that that I am not pregnant.

She texted me at tea time and asked if she could borrow a book on local walks. I said I'd drop it round, which I did, yesterday evening. I'd had a shower and got changed since seeing her earlier and was wearing a summer dress. When she opened the door, she was with her DP and DC. Before I could say anything, she looked me up and down and said in a sort of sneery way, "Are you pregnant?". Queue her and her DP and DC all staring at my stomach and me doing a gasping fish expression. I just didn't know what to say and felt humiliated. I then managed a laugh, said I am not pregnant and gave her the book. She said, "That's a nice dress" and I then made a swift exit.

Reading that back, it sounds really trivial, but it was humiliating at the time. I don't really know her DP. I hate the "are you pregnant" question anyway, I think it's really rude and intrusive to try to put someone on the spot and force a confidence from them, if that's what she was trying to do. But to do it in front of other people, is doubly awful. And she bloody well knows i am not pregnant nor have any intention of being so again, we just had a conversation about it. I just felt that a "truth" about what she thinks about me (that she thinks I look fat*) just fell out of her mouth. And maybe that's what unnerves me about her. I always feel nothing is straightforward, that there's an underlying hidden meaning or agenda in what she says.

Well that did in the end become long and tedious. Sorry to post about something so trivial. As an explanation as to why I'm even bothering to post this, it's because I often have instinctive feelings, that I try to suppress and end up regretting. I've tried to ignore a lot vis a vis this woman, and I'm now regretting becoming friends with her. Cooling off - which is what I feel like doing - is going to make our relationship as neighbours a bit difficult.

I'd appreciate any thoughts or pointers where to read up on toxic friendships. I feel like I've had a few, it's depressing that I feel this is another one that may be inescapable because of our proximity. Thank you.

(*I'm a size 8-10, I admit I have a pot belly, the dress was empire line)

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CogitoErgoSometimes · 24/05/2012 14:23

Empire line can be a little ambiguous so maybe she was commenting on your fashion choice rather than size. Either way, she sounds a bit waspish and worth avoiding for a while, unless you're quick with the put-downs. Doesn't have to be difficult at all, I have very nice neighbours and yet don't see them from one day to the next. Walk briskly, throw a smiley 'haloo! how are you! haven't seen you in ages!' followed by a 'must dash... think I can hear the phone... ' type of thing.

izzyizin · 24/05/2012 14:48

Even a gazelle would look pregnant in an Empire line dress.

I have neighbours I have lived in close proximity to for years but our paths rarely cross unless we happen to meet in the street.

It goes without saying that I'd be there for them just as they'd be there for me in an emergency but we don't borrow cups of sugar or books or anything else from each other and, as you find them unnerving, you're best advised to keep your neighbours at arm's length.

Flyonthewindscreen · 24/05/2012 14:54

Life's too short to spend with difficult people like your neighbour. Why not use your impending trip as an excuse to retreat from her, make sure as far as she is concerned you are always really busy and in a terrible hurry...

janelikesjam · 24/05/2012 14:55

I feel like I've had a few, it's depressing that I feel this is another one that may be inescapable because of our proximity. Thank you.

Empathise with toxic friendship issue Sad.

This is how I look at it. I think friendships should be taken slowly because of the trust issue. If you hear a few "off" comments, as you say, then you are right to distance yourself.

Real genunine friendships are rare and need to be built slowly and with discernment i.e. not every one, however great they may be on first meeting, can become a great friend.

The fact that she is your neighbour should make no difference. Just distance yourself pleasantly. There is no need to confide in her any further or build the friendship in any way. Perhaps try to build new friendships elsewhere.

CrystalsAreCool · 24/05/2012 18:23

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something2say · 24/05/2012 18:50

I have found the two things everyone is saying to be true too. 1) Sometimes people we think we are making friends with turn out not to be what we had hoped and 2) at that stage we remember the sage advice to have taken it slowly in the beginning!

I think your neighbour was mean and I would distance myself too.

carlywurly · 24/05/2012 20:09

She sounds horrid.

If I'd said something like that even in a moment of extreme tactlessness, I would have immediately realised my error by the reaction of the other person and apologised profusely. And felt bloody awful about it for ages afterwards. And you're right, pregnancy questions like that are just plain intrusive and rude anyway.

I'd be polite but cool and give her as wide a berth as possible without being hostile. Don't invite her over, or accept invitations if you can help it. Keep conversations over the fence short. Or come and live next to me, I need a nice, friendly, sane neighbour Grin

CrystalsAreCool · 24/05/2012 20:18

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Bumdrop · 24/05/2012 20:28

I've had a really nice lady at work ask me that, and was mortified when I and she realised no, it was just my too fat tummy :( she was referring to.
But I didn't hold it against her, but I see her very intermittantly she is not a mate.
however, I do have a toxic friendship.
A friend who is more like sitting on a peice of barbed wire,
Yeuk !
Is there any general sage advise about what to do when you have a friendship,with someone who is prickly and puts you own ?

TheEndIsntInSight · 24/05/2012 20:44

Is there a chance that this could be more about her own insecurities? (ie the need for her to say this in front of her DP). Maybe there are issues in her own relationship and she feels threatened by you.

Just a thought to throw into the mix. But either way I'd distance myself if it was me.

Hassled · 24/05/2012 20:51

I think TheEnd has it - no "normal" person sets out to deliberately humiliate someone unless they see that someone as a threat. Not necessarily a sexual threat - but she may well see that you have advantages over her (off the top of my head I'd say it's being a nice person :o) that she recognises. So she has to put you down in some way to redress the balance.

Avoid where you can - do the minimum it takes to remain civil.

ParsleyTheLioness · 24/05/2012 22:07

The pregnancy issue is one of a number of incidents from what you say. She sounds toxic, as Jane has said above, and I think your gut instinct is telling you that. I don't think you need to avoid her completely, or not at this stage (but you may need to if all else fails). I would try and limit contact with her a bit, but if you continually feel 'damaged' by her encounters, total avoidance may be the only option. I have been there, and got the t shirt...

shrodingerscat · 25/05/2012 15:11

FGS! Stupid time out, I've just lost a long reply to all your posts, and now need to do school pick up.

Suffice to say:

  1. Thank you for all your messages. You are very kind to respond to something so trivial;
  2. Have discussed this with DH, who revealed to me last night that he had long suspected the neighbour had been spying on us and she actually admitted this to him (I know, I know, that sounds bonkers, lost post explained this), and that MIL had also witnessed this when I was away last year; which is why I'd come home to the very pleasant discovery he'd ordered the blinds I'd been angling for and which he'd previously argued we didn't need. Can't believe neither of them said anything, but they didn't want to upset me (arrgggh).
  3. I'll be following your good advice and giving her a wide berth! In view of all the other things she's said and done, I think my instincts are right and I should listen to them.

Thank you all.

PS, I know empire lines look crap. I put that in to explain why I might be looking pregnant. My point was, in the context of our earlier discussion, neighbour knew I wasn't, so why say it.

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ParsleyTheLioness · 25/05/2012 15:43

If I was a size 10, I would pay no heed.... Glad you've got the blinds!

beatenbyayellowteacup · 26/05/2012 08:29

Maybe she's a bit jealous?

Abitwobblynow · 26/05/2012 08:48

No boundaries

Envious - you have a life and she doesn't

Projecting

So well done your instincts. Unless you want to be her personal dumping ground, I would start to detach and move away.

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