It is possible to make a women pregnant even if the man dosn't come in her isn't it?

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Sorry a bit much for a Tuesday night. I was with a tosser bloke recently who tried to convince me that even though he disn't have a condom it was ok as he couldn't get me pregnant if he didn't come in me. I politely declined. I am right aren't I? Semen is released before the actual orgasm.

Also just out of interest; has anyone actually concieved in this way?

Well, chlamidia (sp?) is a bacterial infection, so he would then get treated with antibiotics. Ditto any other bacterial STIs have been with DH for pushing 10 years now, so I am very rusty on my safer sex stuff Other infections are viruses that stay with the body pretty much for life (e.g. herpes, aids, genital warts/HPV which can cause various cancers, including cancer of the mouth and tongue if you practice unsafe oral sex and is a horrible way to watch a loved one, or even a loved one's loved one, die ) and if you know that your partner has one of these, you're basically going to HAVE to manage the risk, preferably with barrier methods or limiting yourself to activities that don't expose you to these diseases.

Thanks MrsMuddy. V informative.

This thread id useful for all us ladies who are playing the field (because we can) and wish to protect ourselves!

Lexies, my friend (a biologist too!) counted from the last day, and wondered why she was not getting pregnant!

Definitely better safe than sorry.
Particularly with viral infections that may incubate for ages without any obvious signs of infection.

If they want unprotected sex on a first date, then it's even worse because they are probably doing it with loads of other women.

Where was the need for that, secondcoming?

Ah, x posting, take it back...

I learned many moons ago that chlamydia can be passed on by fingers too, so if he touches himself and then you intimitely, you can get it.

You dont need a penis inside you to get it, quite worrying really.

Of course you should ask for a test and have one yourself. If it comes back that either of you have a treatable condition then you treat it. Bear in mind you can't be tested for herpes and that is not treatable. It is also symptomless in 50% of infected carriers and impossible to prevent with condoms so that one is a bit of a lottery.

You certainly can get pregnant, ds 1 is proof of that

No condom. No sex. No argument.

You can get pregnant without penetrative sex at all or even ejaculation on the vagina - allow me to present ds....

(bumsex is not a fail safe contraception but was a lot of fun!)

LIsamed !!!!
Presumably he will have used this line before and had unprotected sex with other women, which makes the risk of STDs as great (if not greater) as the risk of getting pg.
I bet he's riddled - disrespectful selfish tosser! you are well rid.

I had thought about that Kaluki-BOAK!

I don't think it's un-romantic to ask them to get screened per se.

When DP and I first got together, I forced coerced him into getting screened for all STD's and I myself had a screening, we waited for the feed back (which they text to you) we were both all clear of everything and could then go ahead without worrying.

I think now, it's really important to ensure that your sexual partner is clear.

I got pregnant when DP didn't quite pull out in time, he insists he did.... She's 18 months old

my new fella and me both had sexual check ups ,i had to as got the coil in i knew i was clean ,he had some done too he was clean too so we dont use condoms now

Clean is a horrible word to use I think. People are not dirty if they catch something, maybe uncaring or maybe unlucky.

As others have discussed on other threads and as listed above. Standard GUM clinic STi test will not test for dormant hpv so very important that you continue to have regular smears, never have unprotected anal and don't swallow with oral (although I'm confused with that one because they say that hpv is in the skin, not the sperm, yet people tend to develop throat rather than mouth cancer from it I understand).

..and you are right OP of course. He is happy to take risks with his health but no reason you should take risks with yours - and, other than HIV and HEP, the results of STIs for women are usually worse, more long terms risks, more painful symptoms.

I conceived this way.