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Could use some advice on this friend situation (long sorry)

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hatesponge · 20/05/2012 19:41

Brief background: I have a particular small group of friends I have known since school (we are all same age, give or take a couple of months). I am the only one of the group with children, I'm also the only one who is single.

Over the years I have helped out all of them many times. I've had 2 of them living in my house (pre DC), I've helped them move house 2/3 times each, my Ex (who is in the building trade) did quite a few bits and pieces of work for them for free, I have helped them out with legal issues, jobs, CVs, did all the party prep and decorating for one friends DP's birthday (despite it being the day after my relationship had ended and I was utterly heartbroken...but knew she couldnt manage otherwise) and for another of them, spent every weekend for months trying to do up her house so she could sell after she got into financial difficulty. They come to me every Xmas, and when I was with Ex, used to come round for dinner/drinks every month or so.

Ex always said they took the piss, a slightly petty example but one which used to drive him made was if they came to my house they'd help themselves to Coke, but in their home we'd be offered water...but Ex wasn't the nicest person himself and had an agenda in isolating me from my friends so I wasn't that accepting of his opinion.

Anyway fast forward to now, and I've just turned 40. I'd planned a birthday party at my house (last night). I have been v stressed about the whole turning 40 business, together with work pressures, troubles with teenage DC, going through mediation with Ex etc etc. Anyway in all this I asked friends for help with party prep (all live within 30 mins of my house, and have v much 9-5 jobs). 2 weeks ago they came round for an hour, most of which they spent drinking tea and chatting. I asked when they could help next. They were all busy the next weekend. I said OK, can I have your help all day Saturday then? (ie yesterday, the day of the party no more than I would - and have - done for them). No, they were 'busy' but they could help for a bit in the morning - and would tell my DC what to do so they could help me Hmm. I was a bit terse in my reply, and said that wouldnt help, I had lots to do, I really did need more help than a couple of hours (otherwise I wouldnt ask for help all day). anyway, it ended up they came over Fri night (did nothing) so they could be here early Sat (didnt end up doing anything til mid-morning, spent an hour getting some garden furniture out of the shed and 2 hours putting up a gazebo. I made no comment on the speed or lack of, I was literally running around everywhere doing stuff. I then overhear raised voices indoors (they'd gone in for a teabreak) and it's clearly about me, along the lines of saying I'm an ungrateful bitch. Later, after 2 of them have gone, and I'm chuntering to myself about it as I clean, other friend overhears me and says the issue is I've been utterly unappreciative of them putting themselves out, of how much they've done (I did say, well Ive not exactly sat on my arse doing nothing), how I need to show more gratitude, how kind it is they came over the night before and all Ive done is order them about Hmm

Anway, they all turned up to my party, ate and drank plenty, nothing further was said, although I didnt really speak to them much. The issue for me is I don't know what to do now - do I just ignore it and carry on as if nothing happened? It feels like I've let them get away with it if I do. I've done stuff for them for years no reason other than that I like to help, my motivation wasn't their gratitude. Part of me is tempted to let the friendship wither, but as 2 of them have parties in the next 3 months (which they have already asked for my help with) that would be awkward...

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RandomMess · 20/05/2012 19:45

Urgh.

Well I'd still help them (don't cut your nose off to spite your face at this stage) but nowhere near as much as you used. Offer them an hour of your time or something at a time that suits you.

Grow some balls by being assertive and see what happens?

Seems like you come across as competent and they aren't used to you asking for and needing help, your role is to sort everyone else out?

RabidAnchovy · 20/05/2012 19:56

Tell them you can only help for two hours, they don't sound very nice friends

tribpot · 20/05/2012 20:06

I feel like you're being taken for a ride by these people. Too damn nice for your own good. I certainly wouldn't be helping out with their parties or at least not for more than a couple of hours as Anchovy says. Very Angry on your behalf.

Dozer · 20/05/2012 20:43

You sound like you need to help and be needed, and that this isn't working for you.

I woudn't expect friends to help with much party prep tbh.

Hassled · 20/05/2012 20:48

Email them and say pretty much what you've said here. They're not seeing it from your point of view at all, and you do need to convey your POV. Hopefully they'll be mortified - if not then well, it will be shit but at least it will be knowing where you stand sort of shit.

Lueji · 20/05/2012 20:59

I'd certainly help just as much as they did.

And expect a present for doing so.

MissKeithLemon · 20/05/2012 22:20

Hi Sponge

You are a beautiful, lovely woman - who is being taken for a ride by your so called friends. Cut contact to a minimum for a while, DO NOT help with their parties at all, or with anything else.

You have issues with not being assertive enough clearly, and thats why your friends have crossed the boundaries of friendship/taking the piss.... you must realise that no?

I wish I could offer you more advice, but i'm shit at stuff like this, what I do know is that you deserve better than to be treated this way when you were so looking forward to your big party.
Apart from this group of people did it go well?

No more to add, but here for hand holding anytime...

Jux · 20/05/2012 22:23

The problem is that you like helping and they like being helped. That suits you all. They don't like helping so don't want to, and that's their prerogative, really.

When you decided on your birthday party did you ask them for help? Did you warn them that you would need their help, or did you just assume that they would give it?

I can see your pov, but if you wanted help with party prep then you needed to have involved them with the planning early on, not a couple of weeks in advance. Then you would have known exactly how much was on offer and had the opportunity to cut your coat according to your cloth. They too would have had plenty of warning and been able to make a commitment.

Now, I would just give as much help as you feel like giving, whether it be less than you would normally or not.

The trouble is, you can't do people favours with a view to calling them in later unless it is understood by both parties.

fallenpetal · 20/05/2012 22:38

Well if you have set the precedent of always being the one to pick up their pieces and does the running around I agree they probably just expected to do very minimal help things for you.
I suggest you cut back a bit on how much you help others, there is only so much you should do for some one else in any case. Help with the others parties if you want, or dont. Put yourself first for a bit and see what happens. If they ask you to do more than you want to just be ready with reasons to be busy if you are not a no sayer.
Sorry you had a downer for your party, next weekend go out with your Dc somewhere you love and have a blast Grin

hatesponge · 20/05/2012 22:47

I don't know that it's that I want to be needed. It's more than I know there are certain things I'm good at, so if a friend needs something doing, I'll offer, or if they ask I'm happy to do it. For instance, I'm not a great cake maker, but I'm the best at it out of this group, last yr I made one for DS2's birthday, which one friend thought was fab, and asked if I could make one for her, which I was happy to do.

I did say I'd need their help from a couple of months back when I decided to have the party at home, though I didnt say how much help cos tbh I really didn't know what Id need doing at that point. I then bought a gazebo thing which needs at least 2 (more like 3-4) people to put up - DS2 had a party where we used it a month ago - which they were at - so they certainly knew I'd need help putting that up at least. And about 3 weeks ago I emailed them all saying I was really panicking about party stuff etc and could really use as much help as they could offer; at that time they were like yes thats fine then as it got closer I felt I was having to beg.

Thinking about it there was an incident with my loo a couple of weeks ago which may have fuelled this - there was a problem which I wasnt sure how to fix (am not great at DIY). Friend 1 volunteers her DP (who has plumbed in his own bathroom etc) to look at it, saying he can prob fix this and another loo which wasn't connected- this was when they came over for an hour. The loo that's not connected he tuts at and says 'you need a plumber' as though Ive asked him to instal a boiler or something (and it was friend who volunteered him, i didnt ask!) and the other one he fiddled with for 10 mins and said he didnt know how to fix it. Fair enough, but then other friends are going oh thank you DP for looking, how helpful of you isnt that so kind Hmm. Other friend then gets her plumber 'contact' to give me a quote for the work which was just shy of £400 -which they all then tried to tell me wasnt that bad. I ended up getting someone to do it for £120.

I think I'm going to step back a bit for a while, the more I think about it, the worse it seems

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MissKeithLemon · 20/05/2012 22:56

Hmmm as I suspected Sponge - you're old friends are seemingly of the smug-married arse variety Wink
Offering her dp to help you out, while he clearly couldn't be bothered is a bit Hmm my advice still stands, step back and don't bother helping them for a while. In time they'll realise, and if they are true friends they will alter their selfish arsed ways.

hatesponge · 20/05/2012 23:27

MissKL, that's good to hear re you & mr lovely Grin

I am going to be less involved I think - its normally me emailing to get everyone together, but I'm not going to now, and will wait and see what they do, I'm also not going to offer any help for the forthcoming parties either, at least for the time being.

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