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Am I being mental or is he being an unreasonable twat?

23 replies

Nobhead · 13/05/2012 18:38

This is going to be a bit long and may sound a little petty to some but DS has been growing a sunflower in a little pot for a few weeks now and today we were going to repot it. My DH and DS went out to get the canes and string to hold it up with. They arrive back and we start to repot it but during the process I accidently cut the stalk in half whilst trying to remove a bit of string and a pen holding from it (we were using this to hold it up). I started to well up because I felt sad that I had done it and sad for DS. DH slams down the string and storms off into the house he then comes out 10 seconds later and says "your so fucking ham fisted and clumsy", I started to cry and walked into the house (I'm not usually so seneitive but I am 5 weeks pregnant and maybe a bit fragile) and follows me and says "what are you doing? Your making this really hard work what are we going to tell DS?" I wipe the tears from my face and start to speak to DS about his sunflower- luckily he was ok about it and we had some others to plant so he was happy enough.
Afterwards I go into the bathroom (I didn't want DS to see me crying) for a bit of a cry partly because I felt sad but also because of DH's attitude towards me and he never tries to make me feel better about this type ogf thing and just tells me I should be more careful Hmm. He constantly spills stuff and stains his clothes and accidently breaks shit and bangs on and on about it and I make him feel better by telling him not to worry and it'll be ok- he does lose his patience with me easily. DH then shouts through the door "what are you doing? Why are you crying?" to which I reply "I'm crying I'll be ok in a minute I'm just sorting myself out." He goes into the lounge with DS.
I come out and we all sit in the lounge with the football on and me and DS are playing on the i pod. DH and I still haven't said a word to each other until half an hour later when he makes a comment about me being on the i pod and I made a comment back to him and a full blown shouting match in which he says I am mental, hormonal and a selfish bitch ensues with DS watching (me crying and both swearing at each other). I feel so ashamed and Sad for DS he shouldn't have to see that- poor little man. DH has just took him out to the shop for sweets and to the park.
Myself and DH had a long chat a few weeks ago as we have several issues in our realtionship- we both cried with each other and promised to work hard to make things change but today he says he has been trying his best but I am never happy. You bet I'm not fucking happy when I feel like you don't give 2 shits about me. Am I being as mental hormonal cow or is he being a nasty piece of work. I don't know what to day when he gets back.

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PooPooInMyToes · 13/05/2012 18:41

Wow he doesn't sound very nice!

Sad Angry

Nobhead · 13/05/2012 18:46

I know I'm sat here in tears. I feel like my marriage is slipping away andI'm not sure if I want to save it TBH.

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ElsieBeard · 13/05/2012 18:47

its hard to judge ..you clearly have issues that need to be resolved in your relationship. as you say your ds should not have to witness your agruements.

would relate be an option?

MyLittleMiracles · 13/05/2012 18:50

You are of course hormonal but you say you felt this weeks ago, which to me sounds like before you were pregnant. Tbh it doesn't sound like a happy relationship and either you need relationship counselling or to cut your losses. I am saying this as someone who is 6months out a marriage, sometimes you can't see what someone is doing to you.

CailinDana · 13/05/2012 18:51

What was his upbringing like? From what you say about him it sounds like his parents were the type to harp on about mistakes and he has carried that on, both with himself and with you. Is he the same with your DS? Is he generally nice and kind otherwise, or is he often grumpy and shouty?

MyLittleMiracles · 13/05/2012 18:52

And sorry but tbh its the best thing I ever done. But ny circumstances were different to yours.

legoballoon · 13/05/2012 18:58

I think he sounds very unpleasant. I backed into a bollard when 20 weeks pregnant, and my DH just laughed and said he'd be told to expect such things.

When your DP made a comment about you being on the ipod, what was it, and what did you say back? To be honest, I wouldn't be happy with someone who had full blown slanging matches in front of the DC, and I wouldn't tolerate being told I was "fucking" anything. Alarm bells would be ringing. IMHO, either get some relationship counselling, or cut your losses - that sort of argy-bargy is going to end up doing your head in, or damaging your kids.

It is possible to live with someone and not use expletives or shout at each other. Of course every couple have arguments, but how your argue, resolve your differences, maintain respect for each other both alone and in front of your children, are really important.

Hope things are more settled this evening. Good luck.

KlickKlackknobsac · 13/05/2012 19:01

nobhead
Do not decide to divorce based on a 2 sec 'cut your losses' comment on here!!
You are angry and understandably.
He has been a twat- he was angry about the sunflower. You have obviously argued before- everyone does
And you've talked about divorce- lots of people do that too.
I have been married a long time and know for a fact that blokes are wired differently. That is not to excuse him swearing or being nasty AT ALL.

But you both need to talk to establish your thought processes- so you can understand each other more, and be able to communicate better.
A few tips-
Go out together on your own just for a coffee or beer without kids- at least once a week.
Keep physically close- cuddles/ kisses/ sitting next to each other/ sex whatever.
Try to see each others strengths.
Both of you count to 10 before complaining about anything. (Consider its value first)
Have something to look forard to as much as you can- simple holiday, night out, etc etc.
Do not split whilst pregnant over this quite small row.

Helennn · 13/05/2012 19:07

Yes, KKK, but that does take both of you to put the effort in. If the other party is being a knobhead then it doesn't work. Very easy to base your advice on your own situation, but it doesn't work for everybody.

KlickKlackknobsac · 13/05/2012 19:13

give her a chance Helenn I am suggesting some helpful communication ideas- and trying to give her hope. Of course she needs his input- some posters just love to want nothing more than another long thread where everyone helps her sort out a shelter and some legal advice.
ITS JUST A ROW

KlickKlackknobsac · 13/05/2012 19:15

Plus I am certainly not saying I have been married along time- THEREFORE I KNOW IT ALL
We are as dysfunctional as the next couple.
op you are not mental and he is unreasonable- tell him and see where you go from there.

Helennn · 13/05/2012 19:19

He sounds a nasty bully to me who doesn't care about her feelings, and a bit of a deeper problem than just a small row.

Its all very well her counting to 10 before complaining to him (for example), but useless if he replies straight back swearing at her and ridiculing her. I have been married a long time too and know that not all situations like this can be mended quite so easily.

KlickKlackknobsac · 13/05/2012 19:48

oh dear- glass half empty
yes- you are right- but give her a chance to try
that is all

HotDAMNlifeisgood · 13/05/2012 20:11

Cailin said what I was thinking: he sounds like he has Issues about Being Perfect, and that perfection is the standard he holds both himself and you to.

Unless he is able to realise how terribly unfair this attitude is, and change it, he will continue to make himself, you, and your children miserable. None of you deserve this misery.

curiositykitten · 13/05/2012 20:16

That sounds like a nasty argument, and not the first by the sounds of things?

How have things been this evening?

Nobhead · 13/05/2012 20:25

What Cailin and Damn have said makes a lot of sense. He does have perfection issues- especially about his appearence and how others (apart from me) percieve him. He hates being made to look "a twat" IYSWIM. He does have high expectations of everyone including me (clumsiness and my appearance, although I think I'm fairly attractive and make an effort) his opinion is that whatever I say and do is a reflection him as I am his wife. He is quite critical of others, especially their behavoir. He's pretty shitty about my parents to be honest- they irritate me at times but they are really lovely and would do anything to help us and not expect anything in return.
He came back and apologised to me and I apologised to him and we both apologised to DS and explained that Mummy and Daddy were naughty to shout at each other and we shouldn't do it. He rarely sees us shouting at each other so i think it scared him (he hid under the dining room table Sad), I feel ashamed of myself. He does next to fuck all around the house (just started loading and unloading the dishwasher since our "talk") and once I took the piss out of it in front of our mates and he was so pissed off when we got home, although he didn't show it in front of them.
I just don't know what to do, I don't know if I'm the one with the issues or him or is it both of us. I think that if we had counselling it would shed some light on it and possibly make me feel like I'm not a mental case and I'm being crazy. God when I read that all back I wonder why I married him.

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ChippingInLovesEasterEggs · 13/05/2012 20:35

You are not a 'mental case' (though that's probably a term you shouldn't use as it's upsetting to people with real mental health issues - but it's hard to think of a new way to describe what you mean :( ) and you are not being crazy (see above).

He is being a nasty twat ... I couldn't live with someone like him - only you can decide if it's worth it or not...

Nobhead · 13/05/2012 20:37

Sorry Blush about the mental case thing I don't mean to offend.

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PooPooInMyToes · 13/05/2012 20:47

I've had mental health problems and it doesn't offend me! Smile

ChippingInLovesEasterEggs · 13/05/2012 20:51

Nob - I know you didn't :) which is why I pointed it out early on the thread - otherwise it can get a bit nasty. It doesn't offend me either PooPoo but I know it offends many on here and so was giving Nob the heads up. I can see why it offends people with MH issues or those with children with SN, so it's just best to avoid it, once you know, isn't it?!

Nob - he really does sound horrible :( I'd rather be on my own with the kids than be with him - how do you feel about it now?

HotDAMNlifeisgood · 13/05/2012 20:51

He does have high expectations of everyone including me (clumsiness and my appearance, although I think I'm fairly attractive and make an effort) his opinion is that whatever I say and do is a reflection him as I am his wife.

So he puts you down and sees you as an extension of himself.

He is not a nice man, nor is he an emotionally healthy and mature man. (understatement).

I suggest that you read up on emotional abuse and see if it rings any bells for you.

KlickKlackknobsac · 13/05/2012 20:51

Glad you have talked- if you keep talking it will help.
Its when you stop/ can't and give up that things get hopeless.
Good luck.

PooPooInMyToes · 13/05/2012 20:53

That's awful that he criticises your appearance!

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