when do you know it is time for divorce ?

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Or when do you know you ought to keep trying?

It's horses for courses. Some barely get out of the starting gate, some fall at the first hurdle, some pull up early, some unseat their rider, and the majority keep going till the finish.

Only you know what you are prepared to tolerate and what is a deal breaker for you.

If you're asking because you have problems or are experiencing difficulties in your marriage, you'll need to provide considerably more information before anyone can give an opinion, make suggestions, or provide information that may be of use to you.

It's time for divorce when you can't see things improving. If 'keep trying' means one person taking too much of the blame, denying their own happiness, making too many allowances, accommodating bad behaviour, then that's not a good course of action. If 'keep trying' means both parties are willing to make changes, accept compromises, it can be constructive.

thanks
there is so much too say I dont really feel writing everything atm
but things are improving and both willing to make changes so maybe it is worth keep going

This might help.

ime if you are thinking it through like this then you are not at that end point yet

i didn't want to try and sort things out anymore when it came to the end

a friend told me that everyone has a line and you know when it has been crossed and enough is enough

Sometimes I just wonder: If divorce came to mind it is because the relationship is over, but maybe I am too romantic to even think there is a perfect relationship out there where none of the people ever thought about separating??