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husband may have postpartum depression

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maryjane23 · 04/05/2012 21:16

I really don't know what to do, my husband is suffering from depression and it's affecting us all really badly. I feel really bad for him, but I feel even worse for our 13 month old daughter, who is being deprived of a daddy, as even when he's around these days, he's not present.

He's seen a therapist for the past 2 weeks, the therapist seemed to think he might have postpartum depression, although he's had depression before and he can also be very manic at times, so I'm wondering if he might be bi-polar. He also has ADHD, which he was managing without drugs before the birth of our daughter, but after she was born and he couldn't find time to exercise and had the constant demands of a new baby to deal with, his symptoms became unmanageable and he's now been on the medication for a few months.

We went to visit his parents in Australia when our DD was 8 months old, and he basically had a nervous breakdown. Since we got home, I thought he was getting better as he started the medication and it seemed to help. He went back to work and seemed OK, but 3 weeks ago he sank into a major depression. With the depression (lying down a lot, not talking, crying randomly etc), there is also a huge amount of anger at everyone and everything. I feel like I'm constantly on tenderhooks. I also feel like he has a huge amount of resentment towards us (me & DD) just bubbling under the surface. I dread weekends now and evenings when he comes home. It's like I can't say or do anything right, I feel like I can barely breath. It's such a shame as me & DD have such a lovely, fun time here at home when it's just us two, but when he comes home, the whole atmosphere changes.

I've been trying to be as supportive as possible, giving him space when I think he needs it & comfort when he lets me, letting him talk about how he feels when he's open to it (although the things he's saying seem increasingly irrational and almost obsessive, which makes me worry). There have been a couple of times I've reacted badly (basically told him off because I can't cope with how he's being) and its ended it terrible arguments. I feel awful about this, as I really don't want to make anything worse, but I'm finding it so so hard to deal with. I just don't know what the right way to be is in this situation.

I'm looking for some suitable childcare so I can make more time for him, as I'm hoping having 'us' back might help him feel better in himself and towards me & our DD. He's been sleeping on the couch for ages, as our DD still wakes a lot at night, and he can't deal with being that tired, so I've been doing nights pretty much the whole time. I don't mind, but even getting more sleep doesn't seem to make a difference to his state of mind.

I'm worried about the effect all this will have on our DD, she is so wonderful and happy generally, but I've noticed lately she's been especially getting separation anxiety from me if I'm away from her for even the briefest of moments (even though she's with good friends). I also feel heartbroken when she reaches for him and he turns away from her.

In terms of my own feelings, I feel really unhappy. I'm generally a very positive, optimistic person, but I feel so trapped and oppressed by his overwhelming negativity and dark moods and eruptions of rage. We live in a small 1 bedroom flat and there is no option to get any space from each other when we're both home.

He no longer seems to have any compassion towards me or seems able to express any real love (he says 'I love you', but in a very toneless, perfunctory way). If I cry, he doesn't comfort me (in fact he hates me crying, because he thinks I'm doing it to emotionally manipulate him, not because I'm just feeling sad). I know it comes from his mother and the way she would always use her ill health to guilt trip and emotionally manipulate him, so he has some very deep resentment about that.

I had no idea things would be like this if we had a baby, this is not the type of family situation I wanted in a million years. I would do anything I could to make it better, but I feel quite powerless, as it's within his own head and I have no control over that, he will only get better in his own time, and through his own efforts, if he's able. But there are a lot of 'ifs'. I know he's suffering from an illness and it's not his fault, but we are suffering too, it affects us all so terribly.

I thought it might help everyone if he got some space from us, as I feel like he resents us so much (or rather is projecting his resentment about the things he's unable to control in his life onto us), and also get some proper rest and headspace. But he absolutely hated the idea and is not prepared to go anywhere.

I don't know what to do, or how to cope in this situation. Any ideas...?

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Capitaltrixie · 07/05/2012 09:10

Hi OP, I'm sorry..this sounds very hard to deal with especially with the pressure of looking after a little one. I'm of the thinking that the psychiatrist would be helpful.
Mental illness in which ever form it takes can be very complex to diagnose; I thought I had general depression/anxiety and was possibly bipolar for years, but I didn't quite fit the profile. I actually exhibit a lot of traits of borderline personality disorder (a mental health professional suggsted 'emotional dysregulation' after my meltdown) and I have certain issures hanging over from childhood.
The label terrified me to begin with ('personality disorder' eeek!) but it's actually very manageable with the right therapy. (DBT rather than CBT) Now I would never suggest your OH has BPD, as it could be depression or something else (I'm not qualified or know enough about him) but I thought it may be helpful to look at other things. However it is his responsibility, not yours to make himself 'well' no matter how ill he is, not for one minute saying it's easy (I know!) but he can beat it Smile

maryjane23 · 10/05/2012 17:44

gypsy - actually haven't seen our health visitor for nearly a year now! But resources seem a bit thin on the ground around here (and probably everywhere these days), so I'm not sure we'd be much of a priority. He's seeing his psychiatrist next week, so will be interesting to see what he thinks and if he needs more / different meds.

horsetowater - there is a (scary) ring of truth in what you're saying. I don't think he's being deliberate, but I do feel like his behaviour is having somewhat of a controlling effect on me. I feel myself constantly worrying about whether what I'm doing or saying is 'right' or if it's going to piss him off / get him down. I can't leave DD with him in the evening and go out ever, as he doesn't have the patience for her to settle her when she wakes, so I can't go out ever. Not that I'm fussed about having a big social life at the moment! But just the fact it's never an option makes me feel like a bit of a prisoner at times.
He definitely shouldn't go back to Oz though - being around his parents always has a terrible effect on him. I think he needs to break away from his background as much as he can if he's going to be OK.

I feel I have to play it by ear at the moment, as he IS pursuing treatment and seeking help, which I think shows he's understands he's not well and genuinely wants to do something about it. So I want to see how it goes, but even though he's over the latest 'big gloom', he still seems so distant and I still feel a sense of resentment coming from him towards both me and DD. I feel like he's given up on us and also on himself to some extent. I feel like the strong, kind, funny man I fell in love with has gone away and I'm not even sure who the person is that I'm living with, and this makes me feel really sad. I'd like to have him back, I just hope that's possible. If not, of course the well being of DD & myself is the main priority. I won't let this situation go on for years, that's for sure.

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maryjane23 · 10/05/2012 17:56

Oh & thanks Capitaltrixie, I've never heard of DBT, will look into it (or rather suggest his therapist does). I think getting a clear diagnosis would be a big help as we're not sure what 'type' of depression it even is yet.

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Horsetowater · 13/05/2012 17:35

Hi Mary, it does sound as though he has a lot of deep set issues if his family have such a huge effect on him. Glad you have decided on some kind of time limit, do try and make it a short one. Every day that your Dd has to endure this emotional conflict between you will affect her in the longer term. You are obviously torn between supporting the needs of your dd and his needs. Do ask yourself whether it is right that he should put you in that position? Whichever way you look at it, this man is controlling you. Do take a look at the emotional abuse support thread, there are some useful links and articles.

Horsetowater · 13/05/2012 17:40

Hi Mary, it does sound as though he has a lot of deep set issues if his family have such a huge effect on him. Glad you have decided on some kind of time limit, do try and make it a short one. Every day that your Dd has to endure this emotional conflict between you will affect her in the longer term. You are obviously torn between supporting the needs of your dd and his needs. Do ask yourself whether it is right that he should put you in that position? Whichever way you look at it, this man is controlling you. Do take a look at the emotional abuse support thread, there are some useful links and articles.

Horsetowater · 13/05/2012 17:43

In the meantime Mary can I suggest you keep a detailed diary of the things he says and does, keep it securely passworded. If there is a breakup in the future he may claim custody or unreasonable access.

maryjane23 · 18/05/2012 10:55

Horsetowater - I've just looked for that 'emotional abuse' thread, but can't seem to find it - do you have a link handy? Thanks!

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Horsetowater · 19/05/2012 00:05

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/1448224-Support-thread-for-those-in-Emotionally-Abusive-relationships-number-8

Here you go Mary. Do remember that a lot of the stuff in the links is simply people's opinions, some of the websites are a bit amateurish and not Proper Psychology.

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