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I am totally lost in all of this now.....please help

37 replies

howwrong · 26/04/2012 12:00

I have posted a few times about my hideous marriage. Various names because stbx comes on here and tries to find me.

So was with him for 15 years, 2 dcs. We separated a year ago because of his abuse (physical, sexual, financial, emotional) and things are just really really bad atm. I stupidly had tried to 'remain amicable' but over the last year he has continued to, well, I don't even know what words to describe what he has been like. I stupidly never called the police on him at the times of the assaults.

I have been standing up to him over the last few weeks and I think I have made everything worse. The only reason I have to see him is for the dc but he constantly pushes over boundaries that I try and set.

I'll try and give you some examples from the last couple of weeks. So, he dropped off the dc a few weeks ago and my eldest was hysterically crying. Apparently he had misbehaved and refused to apologise so stbx grabbed him by the arm called him a "fucking bastard" and slapped his legs. DS was so upset saying "he did not want to see that horrible man, I thought he was going to kill me" etc. stbx denied it all, saying ds had exaggerated, telling me I should stand by him on this bla bla. I think I had a thread about that incident somewhere.
Another thing that has happened after this was that I bought a dog - thought it would do the dc well to have a pet to love, but my eldest seems to have been affected on his chest getting asthma. So stbx has come into my house on many occasions, intimidating me about this "you have 2 weeks to get rid of the dog, you should never have bought it, you are abusing your son making him ill, you twat" in front of the children. They are both so in love with this dog that they are literally distraught at the thought of losing him. I've said I will get a kennel for the garden, introduce hand washing rules etc. and I have done this and his chest is much much better. This threat seems to have disappeared.

Because of him calling me names like twat and whore infront of the children, I asked him not to come into the house anymore, obviously he has refused. And just comes in. He did this on Friday and refused to leave, demanding that he gets some paperwork out of the cellar. I said whatever 'paperwork' he wants I will look for him and get to him ASAP. He grabbed me to move out of the way, but did think better of it on this occasion and so parked on the sofa and said it is my house, I will do what the fuck I like. I said you are being aggressive and intimidating and I would like you to leave. He refused and so I called the police. For the first time EVER. They didn't arrive for over half an hour while he sat in the house telling me he can do what he likes.......and then he left. Went to his car and with a smirk on his face said "oh here is the paperwork I was looking for". When the police arrived they just logged it and said because there was no assault there was nothing they could do.

On Monday, I asked for the child maintenance money to be paid into my account, instead of a joint account that I have never have access to - it has just been basically going in and paying the mortgage, which is another story entirely but we could feasibly be here all day. Long story short, he refused. So I went into the bank and got some statements on the account. He has run up a massive OD on this joint account, and has been constantly withdrawing cash from it ie. pay in child maintenance, draw half of it back out again. I put a freeze on the account. Which has INFURIATED him beyond belief.

So infuriated him in fact that he cut my mobile phone off (in his name that he refuses to change but I pay for - the number is a work one and advertised everywhere etc and I have had it 10 years) then I start getting calls on the landliine and emails: "Take the freeze off the account and I will put your phone back on". Long story short again, I said I won't respond to black mail and just get another phone tomorrow and he will be responsible for the contract. He put the phone back on.

But then he came round that evening and I opened the door, leaving my foot holding it at the bottom, and he basically forced his way in. Pushing the door so it nearly broke and then grabbed me and pushed me out of the way, nearly knocking a mirror off the wall.

He then proceeded to go on and on about the bank account and how dare I freeze it. I said I will not be responsible for even more debts he is running up, I have a right to freeeze it because it has my name on. He justifies it by saying that "I have always controlled that account, you have nothing to do with it".

But when he finally left after more threats of the police I get email after email telling me how disgusting my behaviour is, how I am clearly losing it, how he is scared for the children because of me. I emailed him to say please do not contact me anymore, you can pick the children up at x time and no need for any further contact.

So he emailed me with a threat about unfreezing the account by midday yesterday, I didn't and haven't heard anything more about that. But then he was back on about some paperwork he needs from the house and that he needs access, that is illegal for me not to let him in. He then said if I don't get back to him then he will get the police to accompany him into my house to retrieve the phantom paperwork ( I have looked, my mum has looked for him because he phoned her threatening the police).

But then last night he knocked on my door at 10pm, I put the chain over and answered, again going on about the paperwork. I repeated that I had already given him everything there is and there is no more, and tried to close the door....and he tried to stop me but I managed to close it. And he was shouting through the door that he was going to get the police to get him in.

So there we are. I am waiting for a call back from my solicitor _ I think I need a new one because I can never get hold of her. But I don't think I can cope with this level of harassment anymore, it has been going on for a year now. THese examples of the dog, the bank account, the paperwork.....they are the tip of the iceberg.....he always has something that he is going on to me about. I'm thinking of calling 101 and making a complaint about harassment but I also know he does currently have a legal right to enter the house......but his behaviour is so despicable I do not want him in here anymore - he causes distress to everyone.

If you got to here, thanks, I could have actually gone on more and more....but I am sure you get the jist.

What shall I do? I feel scared now him knocking on the door at 10pm and him forcing his way into the house.

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neuroticmumof3 · 26/04/2012 20:00

Well done for contacting police, I hope they are helpful. I would advise you to stop child contact, it's not in dc best interests given his behaviour towards eldest. It also leaves you having to deal with him for handovers which you shouldn't have to do given his behaviour towards you. If he wants to see the children he can take you to court, all his abusive behaviour will be exposed and a judge will decide where/when he sees them. He is getting worse at the moment because you are standing up to him. You need to try to get into a position where you don't have any contact with him because then he can't continue to manipulate and abuse you.

izzyizin · 26/04/2012 20:06

What you need to recognise is that, put purely and simply, this man is a bully.

IME bullies are cowards and, hopefully, police involvement will show him for what he is - which is a pathetic twunt.

It may not stop him engaging in further tediously typical bluff and bluster, but it won't do him any harm to know that you've found your balls and you're not going to take any more of his crap lying down.

Lueji · 27/04/2012 00:41

You must put as much distance as possible from him.

Contact the police any time he tries to enter your house, separate all belongings, accounts, etc. Show the police the threatening messages. Get a new phone and do not give him the number.
Get a court order.

howwrong · 27/04/2012 10:27

So a policeman came round last night and I feel worse than ever.
Regarding the incident with my son, he said "we are not the moral police. I go to houses all the time where children are called stupid twat, but we can't say that's wrong".
Regarding him pushing into my house, he said "yeah it's assault, I can take a statement but it won't go anywhere. No injuries, and you don't want to put your son through being a witness do you??"
Regarding him calling me names and verbally abusing me in front of the children....again not the moral police.
Regarding his history of violence "but there is no history as far as we are concerned"
Regarding me not feeling safe and him knocking in the door at 10pm and refusing to leave when asked....."well did he want something"
He said I could write up a harassment letter but it's not worth the paper it's written on.
And all throughout the conversation he kept referring to divorces as 'tit for tat' exchanges.....I said I've never been violent and I dont want contact with him but he contacts me constantly, intimidating me. "well I've not been divorced myself but I think there are a lot of high emotions"
I feel totally dead. He's won completely.

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HotDAMNlifeisgood · 27/04/2012 10:31

Some police officers are bad at their jobs.

Call again and ask to speak to someone from their DV unit.

WinkyWinkola · 27/04/2012 10:31

No he hasn't.

That police officer was unprofessional and unhelpful. Make a complaint about him. You are being intimidated in your own home. Insist that all incidents are recorded by the police regardless of whether they think it useless or not.

Give your ex ALL his stuff, change solicitor and get aggressive by using the law. Stop that bastard.

mistlethrush · 27/04/2012 10:35

There must be an officer that deals with this sort of thing on a more regular basis, rather than this person who appears not to have any idea of the scale of the problem. Don't be fobbed off with the officer that came to see you - that was an officer dealing with a specific 'event', I'm sure that there is someone that deals with longer-term issues - ring up and ask whether this is the case and if you can get some advice and assistance.

Ring Womens Aid and get some help from them.

You need to keep a diary - put down every time he contacts you and whether its positive or negative. Every email, every telephone call, every visit and the time etc.

If he comes round, get something that will record any exchange.

Can you record telephone calls?

When can you get the divorce settled asap?

Does he really want contact time? If so, can you arrange it to be somewhere where there is another adult there too - eg MiL? Try to arrange it so that you don't have to meet him at the same time.

HotDAMNlifeisgood · 27/04/2012 10:35

OP, IME of getting a violent and abusive man out of my life with police help, I encountered more police officers who where victim-blaming twats than police officers who had proper DV training and wanted to help. But those who understood and were able to help made made all the difference.

Don't get discouraged. He's only won if YOU give up.

howwrong · 27/04/2012 10:44

I want to give up today. Can't stop crying.
The dc were upset last night about the pushing in house incident.......that kills me to know they are getting new scars all the time.
I felt like I was just treated like an emotional dramatic middle class (doesn't happen in these parts) woman.....having a domestic.
In fairness he did say about getting my solicitor to sort out an injunction....which she will.......but his whole attitude was dismissive of it all........standard divorce stuff.

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mistlethrush · 27/04/2012 10:49

Don't give up - this was a small set back (Grrr to unsympathetic policeman). Ring and speak to their DV team and get some better advice.

foolonthehill · 27/04/2012 11:01

Howwrong...feeling so sad for you. the policeman was WRONG and his colleagues who are in the DV unit would be ashamed.
Try again call 101 and ask to speak to DV unit.

For me this helped...I imagined that my H was a stranger, every time he pushed, demanded, swore etc at me I imagined it was someone I didn't know...it helped me to see that I was being abused and needed help.

Call Women's aid, they will help too.

And you need a non-molestation order and also to restrict his access.

Use your anger and hurt to stop this once and for all. imagine a life with out abuse...you can get there. For you and for your DCs sake.

Olympia2012 · 27/04/2012 11:23

Look, I have been there. What worked for me was a change if phone numbers and email address.

Is it possible to move? Put distance between you. Contact a solicitor. They are v effective at sending a 'back off' letter.

Police hands are tied. That officer was factually correct, even if he us lacking in interaction technique!

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