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Suzanne Pilley- another woman murdered by her partner

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margerykemp · 18/04/2012 23:18

David Gilroy, who was having an affair with Suzanne was sentenced to 18 years today.

This isnt an isolated incident. 2 women a week are murdered by their partners/ex partners.

I'm putting this in relationships because too few women realise how dangerous relationships can be.

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Alambil · 18/04/2012 23:27

mmmm... I bet she thought he was a good man, really :(

ImperialBlether · 18/04/2012 23:32

I'm sure he was a brilliant dad.

Alambil · 18/04/2012 23:34

probably went to anger management...

Two women a week. That's two too many

rightchoice · 18/04/2012 23:38

I wonder too if he treated her "like a princess" at the begining, and told her he loved her after days or just weeks.

dottyspotty2 · 19/04/2012 00:22

This was a woman who went missing on way to work iirc its been on our local news a lot her body has never been found.

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margerykemp · 19/04/2012 00:30

There was a doc on tonight showing the evidence against him. The CCTV makes a vv strong case that he killed her at work, brought his car in, put her body in it then drove through argyll to hide it. He even switched off his phone to avoid being tracked. In the midst of all this he went to his DC's school show. His wife has stuck by him. He was probably abusing her too. It's all so horrible.

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Bogeyface · 19/04/2012 02:22

His wife may have been too frightened to leave him before he was found guilty, in case he was aquitted and went after her. I have to be honest, if he is capable of doing that and probably abusing his wife too, I think she may have been quite sensible to ensure she could get a safe few years to get completely away from him.

Lueji · 19/04/2012 05:02

What saddens me the most in such cases are the times some dads also murder their children, along with the mother, or just the children in revenge. :(

Groovee · 19/04/2012 06:26

During the trial his wife refused to testify against him, as he was charged with violence against her.

I was speaking to one of her friends. She wanted to put a tracking device inside Suzanne as she believed he may do away with her.

He looked smug coming out of court during the trial and it was a huge shock he was found guilty.

I wish he'd give closure to her family and friends and tell them where he's put Suzanne's body.

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margerykemp · 19/04/2012 10:07

He would have got away with it, if it had been a decade ago. Goodness knows how many other missing women's bodies are in a forest somewhere? They never found Arlene Fraser either.

I hope he never gets out as I don't think someone with such an elaborate plan can be rehabilitated. His wife will probably be at risk if he is released.

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Bogeyface · 19/04/2012 11:04

Perhaps again, it was fear of his aquittal that led her to refuse to testify. He was clearly certain he would get away with it, and therefore, given that she was an abused woman, she probably believed it too. But now he has gone down she has a chance at freedom from him.

I can't condemn her for not standing up against him at this point. Fear makes us do whatever we feel we need to to protect ourselves.

and I stand corrected, I see it is a minimum of 18 years that he is serving, so that atleast is some justice.

CogitoErgoSometimes · 19/04/2012 17:52

I think misandry is as unedifying as misogyny.... Being women and having less physical power than men means we have to approach many encounters with a certain caution. But to take the actions of a minority of men and extrapolate that relationships are therefore dangerous is not a proportionate reaction. We are not victims.

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margerykemp · 19/04/2012 18:42

1 in 4 women are victims of dv, these men aren't such a small minority. Ok so the risks are small but so are the risks of lots of things eg cervical cancer, but women are AWARE of those risks and take reasonable preventative measures. Dv should be seen as a public health issue.

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CogitoErgoSometimes · 19/04/2012 19:14

So what's the reasonable preventative measure against getting into a relationship with a man violent enough to kill? Not getting into relationships is not a practical option. Potential killers do not go around with a stamp on their foreheads... If they did it would make the police's job a lot easier for a start. In all situations we have to a) trust our judgement, b) set high personal standards and c) be confident enough to call it a day at the very first sign of something going wrong.

BlackOutTheSun · 19/04/2012 19:39

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/feminist_activism/1065291-Victims-of-Violence

just thought I'd add this thread its very upsetting

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