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In laws just not making the effort...

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lizzywig · 17/04/2012 19:53

DH & SIL have never had the best relationship with their Dad. The day after DH was born his mum was admitted to hospital for an extreme version of PND, would acknowledge DH, didn't know who he was, so his grandparents looked after him until she came out of hospital (his Dad just didn't know what to do with a newborn), then when DH was about a year old his parents were pregnant with my SIL. Before she was born his Dad left their mum for her best friend - seems that they'd been having an affair behind her back. Their mum was back in hospital with depression and this over the years turned into numerous psyc hospital stays, ELC and all sorts of treatment, eventually diagnosing bipolar which was never properly medicated. When DH & SIL were little their Dad would ask to have them at weekends purely so him and his new wife (their mums friend) could say to the council they needed a house. When they got their house they no longer saw the children - their mum let it happen because she was really mentally unwell. Over the years they saw their Dad at family events and that was about it, he just didn't really bother with them very much. But he's their Dad and to them he is all they have because a few years ago their mum died, due to hospital neglect she walked out in a daze (too many meds, no supervision) and got lost and was found dead in a field. When she died their Dad promised to step up but three years later and we're still waiting.

I said to DH that if he started making more of an effort himself then maybe his Dad would too. Nothing. He would call him once or twice a week for a chat to either get no answer, a conversation cut short or his wife saying that he wasn't home or (my favourite) "in bed with a bad back" (because everyone knows how hard it is to talk when you have a bad back). He would try to arrange to meet up to only get cancellations. We suspect that his wife may be a contributing factor as they now have their own family and she comes across as quite controlling - yet I can't quite believe any woman would sway her man enough not to see his children.

DD was born last November and since then he has seen her twice (he lives 8 miles away). This concerns us because we want her to have a happy relationship with her grandfather (and abeit it is strained with his wife her too) and quite frankly to know who he is. DH had a chat with his Uncle and told him how he felt and his Uncle had a chat to DH's Dad and basically said "you've always been rubbish with your kids but now is the time to man up and be thankful for what you have". So finally one of DH's phone calls was returned and we met up with his Dad and wife (this was the 2nd time they saw DD), it was quite strained but we persisted and asked to meet up with them again. He said....email me. So we emailed him with some potential dates and agreed this coming Saturday. We said perhaps a picnic at the park but he said no that we should go to his mums (DH's Nan) so we could meet in a mutual place (I kid you not).

DH has been trying to get hold of his Dad for the last week to arrange a time and is not getting a response at all and he has tried A LOT (including good old facebook which he can see he has been onto). We bumped into his Nan a couple of days ago and she knew nothing about it so we made arrangements with her but still haven't been able to get hold of his Dad.

I basically said he's a grown man and shouldn't need chasing and why don't we just wait and see how it plays out, so DH isn't going to contact him now and will see if his Dad does make an effort. What would you do? Should we be trying harder?

In addition DH doesn't want his Dad to be so rubbish with DD. So what would you do? I know you can never have too many grandparents but will she even know who he is apart from by looking at photos?

DH talks about not bothering with him anymore, but it's his Dad you know and I just want to give him a big old slap (or talking to!) to get him to see sense. I'm fed up too because I hate seeing DH go through this.

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TheHappyHissy · 18/04/2012 11:26

I agree, give it up.

IF that dreadful man were actively in your family's lives, he'd be fucking it up! Give thanks that he's not involved.

What a vile waste of a man. Your Poor DH. Have you read Toxic Parents?

lizzywig · 24/04/2012 22:12

Just in case any of you are interested I mentioned that we were due to meet up on Saturday (just gone). Well DH had emailed and phoned and not had a response from his Dad. So we had assumed that he wasn't interested, DH was very upset and then his Nan asked if she could come over. So I said yes and she invited us for lunch on Saturday and I spoke as if everything was all still going ahead - you know why expect that it would suddenly be cancelled just because he had not got back to us. So we went expecting him not to be there, but he was, him, his wife and two of their children.

I can't fathom it. He was really nice, normal, chatty etc. He said that talking on the phone is not his strong point - that is his excuse. Yet DH sent an email too so it seems lame. However, DH's email was not perhaps the best worded email. If any of you out there have a partner who has foot in mouth disease you will understand what I mean! I think this is a contributing factor to him not having responded but at the same time what about the 1001 other times that he has not responded. So I suggested that I be the one to make the effort with SMIL, you know bypass the men. Anyway we made no plans to meet up because we wanted to see if they would make the effort. After we left DH text his Dad saying what a nice time we'd had and could I have SMIL's email address, no response. So today I send a chatty email with a few photos of DD and ask for SMIL's email, granted this is only about 10 hours ago there has been no reply....he does practically sleep with his computer too.

I am hacked off, about everything. We should not be having to make this much effort, it should be a natural thing, it is to us but not to them. I don't want to force the issue, it's weird, I would love DD to have her grandparents around, in an ideal world it would be lovely. I'm torn between the lovely people she sees when we do actually meet up and the people who tear hearts to pieces in the mean time. I am pretty sure that I am happy to let this one lie now, I know DH, me, we, have tried and we have not let DD down but not trying. But it is clear to me that DH is not ready to let it lie.

Someone mentioned that he might benefit from counciling, I agree, unfortunately he does not and I'm not going to force him. He's seen him mum and his sister go through counciling and he associates it with going into a mental hospital so he doesn't even want to think about it. Feeling at a loss to watch DH go through this over and over and to know that DD is going to go through the same thing. However I can hardly say to DH to stop trying, he needs to come to the decision on his own...

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