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How should I deal with my family's negative attitude towards me and the impact of this on DS please? Sorry, this is long..

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maristella · 06/04/2012 12:20

I have a bad relationship with my mother, she has nothing positive to say to me or about me, but will mostly hold back from negativity towards me.

DS is 14, and lovely :) He is very sensitive.

Last year my mother accused me of neglecting DS by denying him drinks Hmm although he is a teen, is given plenty of drinks, and can easily access squash, water and hot drinks if he wants them. He does need some prompting. My mother was lucky lucky to be able to continue to have a relationship with DS and I. I did not tell DS about this accusation; there was no need to upset him, and since the accusation was borne out of malice and a need to criticise. My brother told DS that mother and I 'had argued' but urged DS not to believe everything he hears (from me). That put me in a position where I had to explain the situation to DS, while he had been forewarned not to believe my explanation.

At the time I made it very clear to my mother that her nasty attitude towards me will not be tolerated, particularly in our home. I also made it very clear to brothers that I will not put up with this.

Since then things have been as ok as they could ever be. Until this week.

My mother offered to take DS out for the afternoon and evening while I worked this week, which was kind of her. She then took some food items from my house which were defrosting. I looked everywhere then called to ask if she knew where they were. Brother answered and told me they had taken them because they had assumed they were my contribution. I explained that I did not know this arrangement had conditions attached, and that I cannot afford to give any food away at the moment. Brother got unpleasant (he has been very aggressive towards me over my refusal to be treated like shit by mother in the past, which intimidated me).

When mother dropped DS off later I asked for my food in a light hearted way, and was given replacements that they had bought. I thanked her. I was met with a barrage of sneering criticism about what I should be providing for DS but am not. I asked her why she feels the need to criticise me constantly and why she never feels she can praise me and recognise my successes. She started to leave, and I said she cannot criticise me in my house, and yes she ought to leave. DS ran off. When she had gone he came back in tears and said that since my phone conversation with my brother he had been really worried about everything.

I just cannot trust either of them. My mother has never liked me, has never tried to boost my self esteem, choosing instead to put me down at every opportunity. My brother backs her to the hilt, and can be aggressive in doing so. They are not able to hide this from DS, and make him feel awful :(

I also realise that DS was worried about my reaction. I am explosive when it comes to my mother, I just will not tolerate her nastiness and will bite back. I wish I didn't.

Both mother and brother have not spoken to me since, and giventheir track record are likely to make arrangements with DS without contacting me.

I feel the need to assert my position as DS' mum and protector. I need them to understand that their position in DS' life is actually conditional, and that they cannot compromise him like this. DS loves them, esp my brother and would hate to have this relationship disrupted, he fears losing my brother, and I think he would rather I shut up and put up in order to not rock the boat, yet hates their attitude towards me.

How do I move on from here? How do I find a way to manage this?
I'm sorry this is so long, but it is difficult to discuss this with family and my friends cannot stand my mother and talking about these incidents fuels this.
I would really appreciate some advice

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izzyizin · 07/04/2012 02:31

If you check out the right to buy form at direct.gov.uk you will see that you need not have spent the full qualifying period in your present home or with your present landlord.

This would seem to be clear indication that if you should exchange or otherwise move to another social housing property which is not exempt from the right to buy scheme, the period of time you have spent in your former (present) local authority property will count towards the amount of discount you are entitled to.

The right to the full discount would seem to be aggregated from every/any qualifying property the tenant has lived in, including Ministry of Defence quarters etc.

As of 2 April 2012, the maximum discount is £75,000 anywhere in the UK.

If I am the same izzy I'm glad to have been of help to you in the past - and if I'm not the same izzy I'm happy to be of help to you at the present time [bugrin]

izzyizin · 07/04/2012 02:53

I'm wondering whether a move to a neighbouring borough or county/town would solve your problem in that you would still be able to keep your car and use it to drive to/from work if the distance isn't too great for a daily commute?

I'd also suggest that you enrol your ds in some form of activity such as martial arts, football/cricket club, or similar where he will encounter more positive role models than your brother.

Drama groups are good for encouraging 'sensitive' young people to develop more self-confidence and be able to tell pitas where to go. Or perhaps he'd like to learn an instrument such as the guitar and form a group...?

Alternatively, encourage your ds to socialise with friends from his peer group - offer sleepovers etc - which will minimise the amount of time he has to meet up with your toxic relatives. As he grows older it is to be hoped that he'll not want to spend a great deal of time with them anyway.

The link I forgot to click (above) is www.direct.gov.uk - just enter 'right to buy' in the search facility.

springydaffs · 07/04/2012 10:23

Don't worry, take a step at a time. It's ok, many have walked the walk you are walking now.

I'm sorry my posts had an urgent quality to them - my own situation is fresh and it is hard for me to be less urgent. apologies if my situation has added to your stress.

It may help to see your GP about meds to balance you out for a while. I am a great supporter of anti-d's, as they saved my life at one stage and i can't rate them more highly. they are miracle meds imo, give you back your stability, yourself. Thank God for modern medicine, I say.

It seems that your dramatically increased anxiety is in direct relation to what happened at Christmas. You're catching this early, the prognosis is good. You could look at it that an early warning signal has gone off in you, which is a good thing, no? Get along to the group WA recommended to you - it will help enormously to 'normalise' your situation by meeting with other people who experience the same: there's nothing like being with people who know what you are going through so you don't have to explain.

Take a step at a time. This poison has been going on for a long time, you will be ok as you gradually work out where to go and what to do - time is on your side. YOur family are not more powerful than you, you don't need to be afraid of them.

Get as much support as you can. Keep posting xx

maristella · 07/04/2012 10:29

Wow izzy you're right - my discount would move with me, this changes everything. Thank you so much for finding this out for me

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maristella · 07/04/2012 10:31

I don't think that remaining local would be an option, as we would need nit to be easily accessible for the move to be effective.

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maristella · 07/04/2012 10:38

Spring your situation is what mine is turning into, it had become so obvious that DS is being torn; he fears losing these relationships because it has been communicated to him that they are conditional. He is anxious at the prospect of being rejected by them. It feels so abusive, and I had not realised the extent of the damage being done to my darling boy until now. I badly want a fresh start, and I will need to learn how to be happy, how to trust, and I will disentangle myself and my son from this oppressive sense of obligation.

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flowerywallpaper · 09/04/2012 09:35

I admire the way you have managed so far against your awful relatives and how you are so determined to protect your DS.

I also think you are right to move away. Are you intending that your DS would have no contact too? If so, how will you stop him from keeping in touch/ telling them where you live? (you've prob already thought of this)

RandomMess · 09/04/2012 09:41

Blimey your mother really is truly hideous.

I agree she doesn't love your ds he's just pawn in a sick game she's playing Sad

Move as far away as you can and yes get your ds involved in activities, encourage him to have friends around, build him a life that doesn't involved your mother.

mummytime · 09/04/2012 09:57

Do try to get yourself some counselling, and some for your son. He does need to be assured that loving relationships are those which don't come with conditions.

Good luck!

maristella · 09/04/2012 10:05

Thank you. It's funny you suggested those activities izzy DS does martial arts and drama :) I definitely need to make changes, I'm having crippling panic attacks, the situation could break me. I feel like it is sad that I will need to leave my job, but I realise that I'm close to losing so much anyway while this stressed.

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doctordwt · 09/04/2012 10:10

Move, move, move!

Second everything that has been said about a fresh start, for both of you. New friends, new activities and role models for your DS as he heads into adulthood.

He sounds very aware of the situation and I don't think he's too young for you to explain that you KNOW he sees your brother as a role model and you know how much he values having a person in that role in his life. Yet you can see that he's becoming old enough to see how your brother has his problems too - affected by the family dynamic to the extent that he can be a manipulative, sneering enemy to his own sister and nephew.

I think you can probably get the point across to your DS that although he loves your brother, he probably doesn't want to grow up to be a man like him.

maristella · 09/04/2012 10:12

I've had some problems getting my spare house keys back from my mother, which has been keeping me awake. Despite all the problems we had on weds, I asked very politely on thurs that she returns them before Saturday so that my visiting friend could use them. And blatantly to remove control from her. Anyway I asked by text 3 times, and tried to call twice. Nothing. How dare she hang in to MY keys to MY house? I'm on the verge of calling the police, but I know I will face yet more allegations, this time via police! I can't live like this.

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RandomMess · 09/04/2012 10:14

Just change the locks, pricey I know but just do it for your own peace of mind.

maristella · 09/04/2012 10:18

The votes for moving are rolling in :) in real life too. If we move away then the dynamics between their relationships will totally change. If me mother hasn't seem me, then how can she critise me? I also feel that DS will be able to have a long distance, less intense relationship with them, where as if we stay here I have to sever all ties. Don't get me wrong, I know mother will still try to criticise, but geographical distance takes away so many of the sticks she beats me with.

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maristella · 09/04/2012 10:20

Random I wish I could, but I'm not even sure if I can survive this month financially as it is. As for so many of us, thus gets tighter and tighter each month.

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maristella · 09/04/2012 10:23

Oh and I've registered with a home swap website, and have found a match :) I'm just waiting for the website to verify my tenancy then I can start making contact :)

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RandomMess · 09/04/2012 10:25

Hmm wonder if you can just add an extra lock?

Or if you have a front and back locking door then leave the key in the door of the one she has and start using the other.

springydaffs · 09/04/2012 10:34

womens Aid have a lock-changing service - I don't know if it would be appropriate to ask them?

I'm wary of you promoting a relationship at a distance tbh. These people are pure poison and have thought nothing of manipulating your boy against you. He's heading for an age that naturally 'separates' from parents (all part of building his own identity) and will be particularly vulnerable to their machinations. It is also a major headfuck for him to be having people dissing his mother - which pushes him closer to you iyswim when he's starting to get to the age where he needs to separate naturally.

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