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Think my marriage might be a farce and I feel so upset.

46 replies

foxymoron · 31/03/2012 20:47

There's been no affairs or anything like that. He is just selfish. Every night he is on his laptop. Even now on a Saturday night we are watching tv, he had his lap top on doing work. I try to get him to turn it off I get a tirade of abuse shouted at me. Tonight as I walked out the living room it was "nasty f*cking b1tch!" all I had done was to ask him twice to turn it off! I had a mc last month. It was a mmc at 6 weeks but I didn't find out until I was ten weeks. At around the time I lost the pregnancy we had a huge row. And by "we" what I really mean is that he had a huge go at me. He squared up to me and yelled at me so loud I think the whole street must have heard it. I'm 31 and I feel like my life is over. He does nothing around our house and yet he is so dedicated to his job. He works all hours outside of normal working time but gets paid barely anything for it! He knows how much I want a baby. Our love life now feels clinical because he never wants to spend any time with me or relax with me in the evening. I don't know what I expect to gain from posting on here. I just feel trapped in this situation.

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foxymoron · 31/03/2012 21:56

I'm off to bed now but thank you for all your support. I am overwhelmed at the support I have been given in the space of half an hour so thank you ladies xxx

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ImperialBlether · 01/04/2012 12:24

I am sorry you miscarried.

I do think you're guilty of wishful thinking if you think the reason he is like he is is because of buried feelings about the miscarriage. The thought of someone squaring up to me and shouting so loudly the whole street could hear him is absolutely terrifying - either you were pregnant then or had just miscarried (hard to tell from what you said) - do you really think that is the way to talk to someone in that position?

You have said he is selfish. Do you think he would stop being selfish if you had a child? Really?

You are REALLY young to be panicking about having a baby. There's plenty of time for you to leave this man and start again. Really. I think it would be a relief to be alone after living with him.

You're so lucky you earn a decent living. It gives you the option to go that so many women don't have.

There's no reason to stay with this man. There's every reason to go. Don't try to persuade him to change - he's shown you what he's like, and he's vile.

catsareevil · 01/04/2012 12:30

It sounds like you would be better on your own than with this person. 31 isnt too old to find someone else and have a baby.

WhereYouLeftIt · 01/04/2012 12:39

I really think you need to deeply consider your relationship. He calls you a "nasty f*cking b1tch!" because you want him to spend time with you and not his laptop? That you have been with him since 17 and are now 31, and talk of being 'trapped' in this relationship also rings alarm bells for me. He has been your partner all your adult life. And passing 30 is a big psychological barrier for a lot of people - we often feel that where we are at 30 is 'it', all we are going to be. It's not. My life changed hugely then (split from a partner, met another, married/had baby at 35). DO NOT SETTLE, JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE 31.

foxymoron · 01/04/2012 12:49

Well I was planning on having a talk with him today but it hadn't exactly gone to plan. I told him I wanted to go for a walk but made the mistake of telling him that it was so we can have a chat about a few things. Immediately he got on the defensive and kept asking over and over what it was about and I told him I would rather wait until we were out. So I blurted out how I have been feeling and yet again he has trivialised things. Had an excuse or retort for everything I said. So I feel like we have gotten nowhere again. I agree this is no sort if lifestyle to bring a child into the mix. There is no way I would want to sleep with him now anyway. I'm going to explain to him that I am sleeping in the spare room for the time being. 15 years is a long time to be with someone. I need to plan my next move carefully. I might hide this thread because he knows I come on here and I don't want him finding these messages because he will know it is me.

Thanks again for your support. He makes me feel like I am the one with the issue when we argue. Makes me feel that I am being unreasonable. It's only when I come on here and read your posts that I realise that I am not.

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catsareevil · 01/04/2012 12:53

You can leave this situation. Even with marriage and shared house you could start looking for somewhere to rent in the short term.

QueenofDreams · 01/04/2012 12:56

Foxy - my partner makes me feel that way too. I have a thread about it at the moment. Unfortunately I have two children with mine. Makes walking out a whole lot harder and gives him another stick to beat you with. Don't do it to yourself!

cenicienta · 01/04/2012 13:51

Foxy, I don't mean to sound patronising at all but you say you have been with him since you were 17... that's quite young to start a serious, long term relationship. Most people do change an awful lot during their 20s, and by the time they reach 30 they realise they are a completely person to the person they were when they were, say, 20.

It also means that you don't really have experience of what it could be like in a loving, respectful relationship. What you have now, to you seems completely normal.

But the problem is, if you stay and don't address the issue it will become more and more normal, and you will increasingly rationalise it all by blaming yourself for being a terrible person.

It isn't normal, or acceptable!

Many, many women meet wonderful partners / husbands in their mid to late 30s and go on to have children as well. But to decide to have children, you need to be in a home environment that will be a safe, nurturing environment for them. You can't decide to have children knowing that they will be born into an abusive environment, being exposed from birth to this poisonous atmosphere.

But I think you know this already.

Do you think this is something you can work out between you through counseling or does one of you need to leave?

If you've been with him since you were 17, you probably feel a bit nervous at the idea of starting out on your own. But you will be amazed at how good you feel when you realise you CAN do it.

shinecrazydiamond · 01/04/2012 16:03

Please leave this man. You have no children, don't tie yourself to him forever by having them with him. Your happiness does not lie with him.

amillionyears · 01/04/2012 18:10

Could you send him a letter, with all your hopes, dreams, wishes?
I dont know anything about mcs, but you two must both be grieving.

ImperialBlether · 01/04/2012 19:07

Amillionyears, do you REALLY think he is grieving? Is this how grieving people behave?

amillionyears · 01/04/2012 19:35

I dont know how people grieving over a miscarriage behave. Most of it is done behind closed doors. But if it only happened a month ago, he must be. He is not made of stone.

freeandhappy · 01/04/2012 21:44

I would advise that you don't have any talk with him, do t project onto him that he is grieving and that's why he's being horrible, dispespectful, unaffectionate and bullying. Start thinking of you and you alone. He is inadequate and jealous and nasty and will definitely get worse. Sorry about your miscarriage. I know how horrible that is. But I honestly think it was a blessing g in disguise. 31 is lovely and young and you have the possibility of creating a nice family. A nice family needs a loving, enthusiastic and engaged dad and husband. You need to not discuss. It's a waste of time. Get single and then you have a chance to meet someone who is up to your speed and not sulking and vicious. I think it would be great if you could get a counsellor to give you support as you may need it if you have been with a cunt for 14 yrs

rightchoice · 01/04/2012 21:53

He is just not interested in the marriage. Sorry he did not have the decency or interest in even talking to you today.

Let go, time to accept he has no interest in it at all. Time to get happy for you. Time to move on to a better future. xx

amillionyears · 02/04/2012 11:52

What was he like before he spent so much time on the laptop?
Did he fill his time with something else?
Has he got a bit of an addictive personality?
Is he avoiding other things or other issues?
Is he just tired?
Is he bored?
Is he angry?
Is he avoiding spending time with you?
Is he avoiding talking to you about issues that worry him?
Could you get him to talk to you about what is bothering him by sending you emails since he is on the computer anyway?

Hope this is of some help.

HotDAMNlifeisgood · 02/04/2012 11:58

Please read this book, foxy.

Calling you a "nasty fucking bitch" is not OK.
Intimidating you is not OK.
Ignoring you is not OK.
Trivialising or dismissing your feelings is not OK.

If he wanted to change, he would have by now. He doesn't care how much his behaviour hurts you.

You deserve better.

PostBellumBugsy · 02/04/2012 12:08

Foxy, do you really want to have a baby with this man? There is just the two of you right now & he is not treating you well & is completely absorbed with his work / laptop.
Babies don't make life easier or bring people closer together. Babies/children are hard work & can put enormous strain on relationships. Do you think this man you are with will be supportive & helpful when you are at your wits end with tiredness? Do you think he will help around the house? Do you think he will put away his laptop & do the late night feed or bathtime? Will he be gentle with the toddler who is driving you both bonkers by doing the same thing over & over again.
Please think very carefully before trying again for another baby with him.

HotDAMNlifeisgood · 02/04/2012 12:47

By the way, foxy, I could have written your OP 1.5 years ago: I was 31, planning a family, and had been with then-h since a teen, he was on his computer for work all day and night but earned peanuts, he ignored my pleas to make time for us as a couple, he called me a "stupid fucking bitch", he had a huge row with me in early pregnancy in which I felt seriously threatened, and I found out 4 weeks later that the pregnancy had stopped developing around the same time, he was beyond callous about my pain and sadness - and had none of his own - after the MMC... And it only got worse.

Your post has seriously sent chills through me. Please do read the book I linked to above.

TheOtherPointofView · 15/05/2017 18:02

Your email seems to be all about him and his behaviours. What about you? Its your life - not his. Do your things. Life isnt about, "they got married and lived happily ever after". Life is about living. And this is your responsibility... not his!

And now you want a baby to make you happy? Do you want to put this responsibility on a less-than-one-year-old.

Sure, if you like complaining about your husband being on his laptop, by all means do so. I prefer going for walks and realising my dreams. And sometimes my partner does so with me...

WateryTart · 15/05/2017 18:12

ZOMBIE THREAD

Joysmum · 15/05/2017 18:14

THIS THREAD IS OVER 5 YEARS OLD FFS Confused

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