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Why oh why?

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KarmaK · 22/03/2012 23:52

I'm in therapy and one of the things that has come up is the fact that I have all these openly jealous female friends in my life. Not ALL of my friends are like this and we're really just talking about a handful of them being this way. But for years and years I've put up with openly spiteful unkind treatment from them. I'm talking really horrendous stuff. In one example I had just had a really painful breakup with a longterm boyfriend. I was crying. My friend looked at me coldly and said: "wow, you don't look anywhere near as pretty without makeup on."

With another friend she will actually refuse to acknowledge anything good that happens to me. I'm not the type to boast but with her if I dared to mention even the tiniest positive thing it would ruin her day. Seriously, if I had major good news like I was getting married or I was having a baby, she would simply refuse to acknowledge it. And yet both these women I've just described actually consider themselves to be my friend and will talk about how much they like me.

After recently starting therapy it's come to light just how wrecked my self-esteem is. My therapist has told me that I'm very "pretty" and that sometimes that alone can make certain people jealous. However due to my low self-worth I did not really believe there was anything good about me and so I could not believe or NOTICE people could be jealous of me. Now it's hit me like a ton of bricks just how much poor treatment I have put up with over the years. I feel like an idiot.

Also why do people who seem to actually hate you continue hanging out with you just to put you down and vent their hate/resentment???

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LoopyLoopsIsTentativelyBack · 22/03/2012 23:56

If you are very pretty, they probably hang around because (shallow) people like to be seen with attractive people. They are probably jealous and can see that you are vulnerable and will take it. Many would tell them to piss off straight away.

KarmaK · 23/03/2012 00:15

It is a sobering thing to realize that these "friends" actually don't even like me. At best they seem to feel resentment and nothing more.

Thank God I have plenty of other friends who actually ARE friends and genuinely like me.

So hopefully it will be fairly simple in that I can just stop spending time with people who bloody hate me!!! It used to be that I'd be more and more giving to the "frenemies" to try and make them actually like me or be nice to me.

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henrysmama2012 · 23/03/2012 00:27

They keep hanging out with you because they are so messed up they get enjoyment from crapping on someone else to prop up their own crappy self image. Imagine how bitter and twisted they must be - they are like the evil sisters in Cinderella Grin

Definitely cut off those losers! Stick to the nice friends only.

KarmaK · 23/03/2012 00:29

Thanks for the replies! I actually feel oddly depressed about it all and I think that is just because it's now hit me how stooooooopid I've been. But I guess it's good to have the awareness now and move on!

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QIelf · 23/03/2012 00:32

why do people who seem to actually hate you continue hanging out with you just to put you down and vent their hate/resentment?

Because they are horrible people, and only kind, generous, forgiving people will put up with them. The nicest of the nice, if you will.

So be flattered that you are so nice they choose to spend time with you, and then immediately ditch the bitches.

QIelf · 23/03/2012 00:35

You haven't been stupid at all, like you say you've not had the awareness.

Pickgo · 23/03/2012 00:46

Definitely not stupid. You don't think like this, you don't make friends with someone to put them down and boost your own ego at their expense.... so why would you think others would? You are not stupid you are a nice normal person. It's them.

Don't take on their warped opinions and ways of living - just dump them completely and watch out for anything similar in other friends/future friends.

Counselling can be really hard when you are going through all this stuff but there is no gain without pain. In the long-run hopefully it will benefit you. It think it takes courage and insight to do what you are doing reassessing all this stuff.

KarmaK · 23/03/2012 00:55

Thanks so much Pickgo! x

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