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InLaws and our wedding. Bit of a ramble.

18 replies

misty0 · 27/02/2012 22:13

Kind of a WWYD and a chance to get this off my chest. Its not just about the InLaws really, its about OH too.

Brief background - getting married in 6 weeks. OHs first, my second. I'm divorced. OH is youngest of 4. His siblings have all been married. 2 are now divorced/separated. His family is big and complicated Aunts/Uncles cousins all over the place - lots of so and so doesnt get on with so and so crap politics. I get on well with his immediate family.

My family is tiny. Just me, Mum an Aunt once removed and a widowed friend of mums who's known me since birth and is like an Aunt!

OH and i have lived together for 4 years. Love him to bits. Never expected a proposal as he's always been openly anti-mariage. Anti 'spending loads of money on a peice of paper'. It was ok by me, i dont need to be married. Proposal came without warning - i was thrilled, and said yes. In initial discusions about our wedding we were both adamant that we wanted a small do. Immediate family only. Something quirky perhaps, on a beach or in the woods maybe. Reasons for small do = cost, disproportion in family size, mutual dislike of the idea of large cliched white wedding.

Current situation - wedding has grown and, although still small by some standards, is bigger than i imagined. Its now a very formal affair - white dress, posh venue, expensive cake + flowers. We decided smallish but posh was a compromise as the quirky was hard to organise. I AM happy with it, but OH and i have bickered about numbers of guests. He admitted to feeling presure from his mum to invite 'everybody'. As it is we've got his mum and dad and all his siblings plus partners and kids. My people plus a sprinkle of our friends. Some mutual, some not. We're going for a morning ceremony, with lunch for all, drinks, then coffee + wedding cake and a 5pm finish. No big piss up. If we invited 'everybody' it would nearly double the numbers.

His family have lots of 'do's. We attend alot of them and they are all big noisy bashes. i pin on a smile, but rarely enjoy myself much. I feel swamped. I chat with his bro's wife who feels the same. His mum is lovely - she revels in her big family, which is fine, but always talks about how small mine is in sympathetic tones as if its something sad and awful.

Aaaaanyway - MIL is having to come to terms with the fact that our wedding isnt going to be another of these big family do's. She's dropping blunt hints about how 'gutted' the extended family are about not being invited and is now suggesting we organise a family party after the honeymoon, funded by us, for all those who are being 'left out'. I HATE the idea. OH is crumbling under the guilt trip and this is annoying me as he knows exactly how i feel - but his mums saying 'jump' and he's saying 'how high' basicly. Never ever seen this in him before. He's usually a very single minded bloke.

I feel there's an atmosphere between us about it all and its sad. I feel a row could errupt if i push. I dont want to be rowing about our wedding.
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WWYD? And thanks for reading.

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UniS · 27/02/2012 22:16

tell MiL that your saving the "big family do " till the christening...

squeakytoy · 27/02/2012 22:18

She's dropping blunt hints about how 'gutted' the extended family are about not being invited and is now suggesting we organise a family party after the honeymoon, funded by us, for all those who are being 'left out

Drop an even bigger hint back saying "well we would love to, but we really cannot afford it.. so it wont be happening"..

It isnt her wedding, and it is not as if this is her only child's wedding either... she probably hasnt got her way with the previous siblings weddings, so dont let her steamroller over you, keep his brothers wife on side as she probably knows exactly how you feel.

And enjoy your wedding, the way you and your partner want it.. not how other people want it to be.

misty0 · 27/02/2012 22:20

Sadly we lost a baby last year. So dont want to use that one. But otherwise it would've been a good thought.

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misty0 · 27/02/2012 22:22

Yes, squeaky, thats probably the way forward.

Thing is at the mo this is all through OH. I think she knows i might dig my heels in and is aiming it all at him.

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squeakytoy · 27/02/2012 22:23

Can you get one of his brothers to talk common sense into him.. they probably know exactly what their mum is like!

misty0 · 27/02/2012 22:27

Lol - one of his bro's weddings was a £25,000 event in Cyprus 3 years ago!

But - i think this bro would indeed caution OH against arranging extra do's that we dont want.

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GnomeDePlume · 27/02/2012 22:36

First of all congratulations on your upcoming wedding and congratulations on keeping it down to an acceptable level.

Does your OH enjoy the big family dos? Is he quietly in agreement with his mum that there should be a big bash (ie wants this for himself, not to please his mum)? If so then you need to discuss this as a couple and again look for a compromise which can work for you both (eg lunchtime not evening, a simple buffet meal but no evening disco).

If your OH does not want this and is being brow beaten then you need to work on a plan to dissuade her from making your lives a misery. Can you use your relationship with BiL's wife to sound people out and to start to post other voices of dissent with OH's mum.

Could you use delaying tactics? Would that help? 'Darling MiL we would love to have something for the rest of the family but really cant think about it now what with the wedding coming up'.

As a thought, you could use the family party as an opportunity for the quirky. It will be much easier to arrange if you are only arranging the party rather than all the wedding bits. Put MiL off by saying that you need time to make sure your wedding goes off properly and that you also need time to think through details for a family party.

TheCrunchUnderfoot · 27/02/2012 22:57

It might be the right time to say to your OH with a smile that while you like his mum and look forward to a close MIL-DIL relationship, if this er tactic for getting her own way is going to be by manipulating her son and making him feel guilty, you are not going to like her for very much longer. Or respect him.

So he nips this kind if stuff in the bud NOW, or he looks forward to a much less friendly long-term set of relationships. That would be a shame.

TheCrunchUnderfoot · 27/02/2012 23:01

...if HER tactic... !

EldritchCleavage · 28/02/2012 11:36

I would say be honest that you don't want to do it. Gently and politely, but firmly. It's surely a bad idea to give the impression you are going to do it and then try to wriggle out later.

wigglybeezer · 28/02/2012 11:48

We had a small wedding, immediate family and best friends only for ceremony and lunch, with a big party in the village hall to follow in the summer. Inlaws just organised a big party at night for their friends which they payed for (we put in a guest appearance and were toasted etc.) and they then had a party in a marquee in the garden to which they invited a mixture of our friends and theirs. We basically ended up having Two big wedding parties and three wedding meals, a bit OTT but spread out over several months and everyone was happy (and I only had to organise the small wedding and lunch!).

FaithHopeAndKevin · 28/02/2012 11:50

If she wants a big post-honeymoon party, then let her pay for it organise it and then you can show up and leave when you want.

LapsedPacifist · 28/02/2012 11:58

You could just vaguely agree with her that yes, it would be nice to organise another family "do" after the wedding, when hell freezes over at some vague unspecified time in the future.

When you saved up a bit of money after the expense of the wedding of course. And when things are less hectic at work - you can't POSSIBLY take any more time off for a while, it's going to be madly busy for the foreseeable..........

Honestly, just nod and smile and let it drop. She'll get over it. You don't want to be worrying about this when you have a REAL wedding to fret about!! Grin

Ephiny · 28/02/2012 12:00

The biggest problem you have is your OH being unable or unwilling to stand up to his mum, and putting her wishes/feelings ahead of yours. This is going to cause you big problems, both now and in the future, if you don't sort it out.

Maryz · 28/02/2012 12:02

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OTheHugeManatee · 28/02/2012 12:04

This feels like two issues to me: one is that your family is small and your OH's is huge, so maybe you feel a bit overwhelmed by the size and extent of their clan. On this you might have to compromise a little: you're marrying into this family so to an extent you're going to have to put up with the way they do things.

But the second issue is money. You want and can afford a small wedding, you are paying for a small wedding. It's totally unreasonable of her to make you pay for a big party that basically caters for MIL's her family's requirements at the expense of your own.

I think you need to be fairly straight and just tell her you can't afford to pay for this huge party for all her extended family. If the money's not there, it's not there. She can't reasonably argue that you should be getting into debt at the start of your married life just to accommodate a load of second cousins.

Then if she still wants this party, she can organise and pay for it herself as a celebration of your wedding.

marshmallowpies · 28/02/2012 12:13

If they want the family bash, they really have to be prepared to stump up for some of it. Is there a family member with a big enough back garden that could do a barbecue/marquee style affair without having to pay too much?

I had a similar dilemma (although without family pressure being an issue) of having to cut back to a small wedding when I found out I was pregnant, and initially talked about having a big party later in the year once the baby was born.

The second party idea dwindled away once we got into the swing of planning the actual wedding, we realised it just wasn't practical when we had to plan for a baby too - you might find once you are married she comes to terms with that and the second party becomes a thing of the past. Give it a few months and, if it's that big a family, someone else will get engaged or have a baby and she'll have a new thing to focus on.

HotDAMNlifeisgood · 28/02/2012 13:25

It might be the right time to say to your OH with a smile that while you like his mum and look forward to a close MIL-DIL relationship, if this er tactic for getting her own way is going to be by manipulating her son and making him feel guilty, you are not going to like her for very much longer. Or respect him.

So he nips this kind if stuff in the bud NOW, or he looks forward to a much less friendly long-term set of relationships. That would be a shame.

Agree with every word of this. Your OH's behaviour is setting the scene for all sorts of future battles in which she uses this tactic to get her way, and he lets her.

He can say no to her, and if he doesn't, then she will be controlling many more aspects of your married life beyond just a wedding party.

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