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Is it really over?

35 replies

IDontThinkSoDoYOU · 07/02/2012 10:49

I think the time has come to ask random strangers for an outside view.

Background, married nearly 5 years, I have children, he didn't. I thought we had done it all correctly ie getting to know him etc etc before involving the children. Been together 10 years now altogether.

About 2 years ago I started losing him. He became withdrawn. I tried to find out what was wrong but he didn't want to tell me. Still won't really talk to me.

We are now at the point where he can't even be in the same room as us. He drinks every night and sits in another room on his laptop/phone/anything. I can't get a word out of him without saying one first. He is indifferent and cold to how I might feel. He has told me I have nothing interesting to say regarding my work and withholds his help.

I have 2 jobs. We are in financial difficulty and on a debt management plan. I had no idea he couldn't manage his credit cards and have realised he is foolish with finances. He doesn't seem to see any future, only lives for the here and now. We remortgaged to pay off one debt but he ran up another without telling me. I guess I am just as much to blame for not taking control of it sooner.

He has something very precious to him that he could sell which would get rid of our debt but refuses to. I have actually accepted this. No point flogging a dead horse and we are managing....just.

He tells me he is bored, he wants more money to spend, he feels trapped, I don't pay him enough attention (if he would help me do some of the things he could actually help me with then I would have more time - maybe I'd spend it with him but right now, probably not) now I am reading this back he sounds like a fuckwit that I'd be better off without.

I haven't fallen out of love with him yet but I cannot carry on like this. No conversation, no sex, no touching, no affection.

I have tried so hard so many times to get him to talk to me but he doesn't want to. I am quite sure he isn't seeing anybody else.

I have wondered if he is depressed. He has always been a bit melancholy but the last 2 years have been dreadful. Every time I say anything, he just basically agrees with me but then does nothing.

Could he be depressed? Or is he just staying because it's easier than doing anything else? All he has to do is go to work, I take care of everything else.

I don't know anymore. I think my life would be better without him but if he is depressed I would like to help him and get our old life back. I don't think I have done anything to make him treat me the way he does. I hate it and becoming angry now which isn't helping.

Yes I know it's long. Thanks if you got to the end. I might not be back til later but thought would be appreciated.

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IDontThinkSoDoYOU · 09/02/2012 18:01

I just sent his parents an email. I gave them a rough outline of what has been happening and what I think is going on.

I asked them to talk to him as they love him and want the best for him and I said that I thought it was either depression or he needs to make a decision to leave.

I don't know if it was the right thing to do.

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SlightlyJaded · 09/02/2012 20:42

IDont. Idiot know if it was the right thing to contact his parents as I don't know them. BUT regardless of how they respond, it is a good thing because it will show your DH that you are serious that things have to change and that secrecy is not an option any more

I really hope they come good and offer you both some support. Keep us posted OP

SlightlyJaded · 09/02/2012 20:43

idoit = I don't. You're not an idiot!

sadsackbee · 09/02/2012 20:54

I'm just in the process of ending a relationship which has similarities to yours. My dp was wonderful. Just the kindest man. Depression has eaten him up.

Honestly, now I've made the sad decision to leave (sad based on what we used to have) I feel such utter, lovely relief. It took me a long time to make it, and it was based on the fact that he won't seek treatment (and has gotten worse and worse as the months have gone on) and I can't believe how free I feel after some very sad months. I have hope again. We used to have so much fun together and recently all the joy has been sucked out of life. I'm going to make damned sure to inject it back in.

I don't know if leaving is the right thing for you, but please consider it. Life is too short to be miserable.

IDontThinkSoDoYOU · 09/02/2012 21:09

Thank you and so sorry sad sack that it ended up like that for you.

I have just had a lovely telephone conversation with a dear friend who knows us both well. She knew most of what was going on and has also made me feel I have done the right thing.

Life is too short and as much as I want the joy back, I can see the man I love disappearing and I want happiness for him too. He is having a roughy time as well.

Will wait and see what his parents want to do. Then I will tell mine.

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sadsackbee · 09/02/2012 21:26

Thank you for the hand holding on my thread!

The reason I haven't ended up relationship till now is because I was so desperately scared of what dp's future was. I thought about what would happen if he was alone and got worse and worse and gave up all hope. It felt very bleak and to some extent it still does. It's scary. I do love him. I want to be happy with him. Actually I just want the old, happier him back and a future together with all sorts of lovely things in it. But that him is gone. I don't have hope that it is coming back anytime soon, because he's not working at getting better.

And now I think, actually, he has choices like everyone. He could choose to go on anti-depressants and get a new counsellor, do some volunteering, all sorts of things to not just tackle his depression but sort out his whole life to make it a good one. He has all kinds of opportunities that he is letting go by. My Dp, possibly like yours, chooses to hide away from the world and won't make any decisions as they are too scary. As a result his issues just get bigger. I choose to face mine and do everything possible to better myself and my circumstances. I can't be responsible for his well-being if he won't help himself. I just have to hope that losing me will be a kick up the bum and he will take action. But he has friends and family around him, and hopefully your partner will have his parents involved a bit more and try and help too.

It's very hard, isn't it!

IDontThinkSoDoYOU · 09/02/2012 21:31

Yes, it is sadsack. Heartbreaking too. I also want the old him back and I am scared it won't happen.

You sound like me. I am sure I can make it better but sure I can't do it alone.

If my dh does leave, I will worry about him so much but equally living like this is no good for anybody.

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IDontThinkSoDoYOU · 12/02/2012 19:01

Well, my update is I sent the email Thursday lunchtime and now it's Sunday evening and I have heard nothing....absolutely nothing, I don't know what I was expecting but I don't think I was expecting nothing, not even an acknowledgement.

I've got friends coming over later who don't know what's going on so I've got the chance to forget for a few hours and just try and have some fun.

I've read a lot of the relationship threads lately And there are so many unhappy people. I'm going to send some happy thoughts to you all and hope you all find peace.

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SlightlyJaded · 12/02/2012 23:42

Sorry to hear you've heard nothing back OP. Are his parents definitely around at the moment? Perhaps they haven't read it yet. It's possible they're not sure how to respond or feel that they should talk to him first - out of loyalty. Don't give up yet.

I still think it was the right thing to do as it demonstrates the end of you 'doing nothing' IYKWIM

Keep posting if it helps

sadsackbee · 13/02/2012 09:51

Really sorry you haven't heard back but I hope they will have read it and will actually just be talking it through and acting on it and just haven't yet thought to come back to you.

I hope your friends proved a good distraction.

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