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Please help...big decision re ex, ds and home

32 replies

easeldoesit · 14/01/2012 14:36

Hi. Namechanger here (supersoakers, naice ham etc, I'm a big AF fan too).

I desperately need advice this weekend and I've nobody to talk to in RL. I feel like I'm having a breakdown wrt the situation with my ex and ds. It's complicated I'm afraid.

Ex and I separated when I was pg (he didn't want it). Since then he has been a 'sporadic' parent (coming and going from the UK, didn't always 'have time' even when he was here). Over the last couple of yrs however he has had regular contact.

He is a misogynist, however, and very nasty and controlling towards me. We had a friendship, if you could call it that, until I realised how depressed and anxious he was making me. He wanted to hang out with us (me) all the time. Got angry/stopped talking to me if he thought I was seeing anyone. Paranoid about me having any new relationship (I never have, really). Withholding babysitting if he didn't like the idea of what I was doing. Anyway, I decided to sever contact with him myself, for my own mental health. Without wanting to interfere in his relationship with ds, I said it was fine to continue their contact as it was but I didn't want to see/speak to him unless it was anything to do with ds.

Ex took this really badly. For over a year now he's been threatening me with lawyers, social workers. Calling me a c*, unfit mother. Harrassment calls (30/40 times per hour at the worse times). Vulgar texts. Has shouted at me in front of ds.

Worse, he has involved ds. He encourages him to lie to me, and to teachers. Tells him out and out lies about me (eg that I'm stopping him seeing him.) Tells ds he (ex) cries all the time because I'm so horrible. Ds is very distressed by this, depressed and angry (rude and aggressive) has a referral to CAMHS.

Ex says it's my fault and I'm the one making ds unhappy because I won't be ex's friend.

I have been to WA and spent a week in a refuge to get away from the harrassment and have a break. It was great, but of course I had to come baack to the same old problems. Ex currently has no PR, name not on birth certificate. He wants to be given PR and massively increase his access, I guess he wants 50/50. I'm not happy with this, because of the way he behaves, basically like someone off Jeremy Kyle (sorry). He has no qualms about what he is doing, involving ds in very adult matters, he says I'm horrible and ds needs to know :(

In a panic last week, because I'm only sleeping 3hrs a night, anxious all the time etc, I decided to leave town. I love my town, we have a lovely home. I have no money and no friends but we have a secure rented property and I've been here for years. But I went and handed my notice in and phoned a removal company, and arranged for them to take all my stuff to my parents home. I don't want to go there, it's in a horrible town and I hate it and my family are not close (they are ok people but 'issues', though they are supportive and want us to come).

I woke up screaming in the night last night. I don't want to move. But every day, every single day I get grief from this man. He is turning my son against me, my whole experience of parenting is being slowly poisoned, ds's childhood is being poisoned.

But I don't know if I'm doing the right thing. My plan (such as it is) is to just disappear. If I stay where I am, this will never let up. Ex will press for increased rights and my son will be pulled further away from me. Of course although he is unhappy ds loves his dad. He also has extended family here.

WA encouraged me to go and have offered further refuge. I saw a solicitor, they said don't go, as ex could easily track me down, and it would look bad in future legal proceedings if I disappear/suddenly cease regular contact.

So...basically, I have until Monday. I could cancel removal, ring my landlord and say change of plan. Then I get to stay in my beautiful town, in our own space, ds continues to see his dad, but my own problems with ex will never cease, and ds will likely compy his father and end up hating me and all women too.

Or, I continue with the plan to move to my parents, to be sharing a tiny room with ds, penniless, jobless, having to find a new house in one of the most expensive parts of the country, missing my old home.

Or, I go back to WA, and ask them to hide me again, which is a short term solution, I know. (To be fair, I don't think I'm much of a worthy cause, but they have been great, and they have space for me, and would be able to keep me in reasonable distance from where I am now).

I don't know what to do, am going round in circles. Ex has been like this for 8yrs, on and off, but it's been so bad in the last yr. I've been having thoughts like, I should just go, leave them both to it, it's a lost cause. He freely admits to being a controller of women, he thinks it's funny.

Please help. Sorry for extreme length and dramatic tone.

OP posts:
mrspnut · 15/01/2012 10:47

I'd have all your furniture put into storage and when it is time to leave your house go into a refuge.

You can be housed from the refuge and you will have a much higher priority for social housing from a refuge also you will have the chance of a good long break from your ex.
I'd also tell your local women's aid and DA unit what the police officers that visited you said because it is appalling. Your ex is harassing you, and he is emotionally abusing you and you do not deserve it.

Sparks1 · 15/01/2012 11:16

"If you have never been married and your X has never applied for parental responsibility then your DS doesn't have to see your X at all."

Hey!? I think that's a somewhat misleading comment and infers that it's somehow a legal ruling! It's not,far from it.

Running away is not the answer and as the OP's solicitor has advised will count against her later on in any legal proceedings. The WA shelter and further legal advice is the thing to do.

Pickgo · 15/01/2012 11:37

What do you mean Sparks ?

Marriage = automatic parental responsibility. Otherwise it has to be applied for from the courts. No court order means it does not exist.

It is the child's interests that should be paramount here.

In this case it sounds as though the child would defionitely be better off not seeing the father. That is the case sometimes. It should be acknowledged and acted on rather than a blanket attitude of the 'child has right to see parent' when it's not in their best interests.

Sparks1 · 15/01/2012 11:50

My point is PR has very little bearing on a parent having contact with their child. And since 2003 if you're on the birth certificate you have PR.

I quite agree that the child having contact in this case sounds a bad idea. But the OP unilaterally removing it is a bad idea.

Far better she instigates legal proceedings and is on the front foot. For both her and the child's sake.

ThePinkPussycat · 15/01/2012 12:13

Sparks he's not on the birth certificate.

Sparks1 · 15/01/2012 12:19

Fair enough. But like i say it's a moot point anyway!

Fairenuff · 15/01/2012 14:34

Even if he does not currently have PR he could get it, as the child's father. So the best course of action is to go down the legal route to get an injunction against him. Even if the courts then grant him access, it would have to be via a third party and the OP should not need any contact with him whatsoever. As he seems to be using the child to get at OP, he may not bother with contact under those circumstances anyway.

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