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How to handle my difficult mother now I'm pregnant myself

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karmakameleon · 02/01/2012 09:35

My mother and I have had a very difficult relationship for probably the last ten years or so. There is a huge backstory so will summarise to avoid drip feeding.

Periodically, she will stop talking to me for some insignificant reason and she will never really explain why or what I did. I generally ignore her when she has these sulks and at some point she will resume normal relations as if nothing happened. Usually this will be when either she needs something or because she's not talking to my sister (they have a similar relationship) so she wants to have contact with me again instead.

She also has a tendency to blow hot and cold with other family members and has strained relationships with all my uncles and aunts (her siblings and their spouses) and my grandmother (her mother) who she refuses to talk to at all. We also have a huge extended family and again about half of them either she won't talk to for reasons that are usually unclear or if she does tell us, reasons that are minor. Other family members have ceased to have relationships with her because of her unpredictable behaviour and nasty things she has said to them in the past.

DH and her do not get on at all. This is mainly because when we got engaged, she immediately decided that she wanted nothing to do with the wedding (again reasons never to be revealed) which upset me greatly to begin with. Of course, we just decided to get on with it and started planning our wedding with my dad and without her. At this point she decided to become a nightmare mother-of-the-bride-zilla and started planning a crazy big wedding that neither DH nor I wanted. She went as far as booking things and paying deposits without asking us. When we found out angry words were exchanged, both she and DH said things they shouldn't have. DH apologised (no apology from her) and we tried suggesting compromises but she refused them all. In the end we had to carry on without her again and she spent most of our engagement sending nasty emails to DH and making angry phone calls to me. At the 11th hour, family friends intervened and managed to convince her to come to the table. After this wedding plans were made in line with the original compromises that DH and I first suggested and we did in fact have a wonderful wedding day. However, after all the stress and heartache it took to get there, coupled with the fact that she refuses to acknowledge that she ever did anything wrong, although DH and I try to have a "normal" relationship with her, I don't think either of us will ever really forgive her. She is also still very angry with us because as far as she sees it, we excluded her from our wedding preparations and were rude to her. Also, in her eyes, we would have had a much better wedding if she had been allowed to organise it all as per her wishes. She brings this up regularly and we ignore, but we are never allowed to mention her behaviour during this period else she goes into full tantrum mode.

So backstory over, now with the current situation. DH and I have moved abroad. She has decided to visit for five weeks over Xmas and New Year. When she first suggested it, I tried to put her off by pointing out that during the week we are both at work and are out of the house for at least 12 hours a day and that there is very little to do in the city where we live. I thought it would be sensible if she broke up her stay with other activities. She said that she would book a holiday to see a bit of the country we live in. Also we have other relatives a two hour flight away so thought she could go and see them for a couple of days, which she seemed keen on. However, she has booked neither, nor any of the other trips that we have suggested. Instead, she has spent all her time cleaning our flat because it was dirty (we have a maid that comes for a couple of hours every day but this is clearly not enough) and rearranging our kitchen because she couldn't find anything Hmm. She has also cooked a lot of food and continues to cook more even though we now have a fridge full of left overs and no more space in the freezer and keep telling her to stop. She is also buying a lot of "stuff" for the flat that we do not need eg extra saucepans when we already had a full set (apparently ours where not very good). I've made a point of not saying anything to avoid any arguments but things came to a head yesterday when DH found her opening fresh packets of food and emptying them into jars. Not generally a big deal but as expats we have brought lots of food with us that we don't easily get here so there are shelves and shelves of foodstuffs to empty out. DH asked her to stop because (a) anything we don't use we can't take back so easier to give it away if it's in its original packaging and (b) we live in a hot country were things go off and there are lots of pests so better to keep foods in sealed packaging. She took huge offense and decided that she was moving into a hotel because DH was rude to her (I heard the conversation and he was not). Angry words were exchanged on both sides and DH said stuff he shouldn't in the heat of the moment but immediately apologised. As far as my mum is concerned all this is our fault. DH was at fault for being rude and although the apology was clear and immediate it doesn't count supposedly. Also neither of us is sufficiently grateful for all the cooking and cleaning she had done. Obviously she is not to blame at all even though she spent most of the day either sulking or ranting at us about variously the current situation, the whole wedding drama which was now nearly five years ago and which she cannot accept any blame for at all, or other random things that other people have done to her (ie things that are nothing to do with us at all but worth bringing up in an argument to point out how hard done by she is).

After all yesterday's drama, DH managed to convince her not to move to a hotel by telling her that I was pregnant so she should think carefully if she really wanted to break off all relationships with us and therefore her GC. I'm only just 12 weeks gone and we weren't planning on telling anyone for another week or two but felt forced to under the circumstances. She decided to stay but spent the rest of the day sulking and still isn't speaking to us.

So, if anyone is still reading after that marathon story, what are we meant to do now with her hanging round our flat continuing to sulk. She is due to stay for another three weeks and even when we were on speaking terms she refused to tell us if she had any concrete holiday plans or when she intended to go.

And also what do we do when the baby is born? She has a habit of conveniently forgetting about previous arguments when she wants something and will no doubt want to come and see the baby and "help out" at the same time. I don't want her help, mainly because it comes with too many strings attached, and I don't think she can stay more than a week as it's too much stress but I suspect that she will want to plan a visit for at least a month and will again be vague about her plans so that we can't raise any objections. Also, DH's parent are both lovely and I'm happy for them to come for as long as they want (although I don't think they will come for more than a couple of weeks) so she will notice the difference and object if we say she can only stay a week. I just don't know how to have a rational conversation with her and convince her not to plan an extended stay without all hell breaking loose.

In the longer term, I'm not sure how much I can/should expose a child to someone whose affections can be withdrawn so easily. So far she has made an exception for the children in the family and doesn't directly say anything nasty to them. However, she has no issue with having hideous rows with parents in front of any adult "children" who may be present so I am concerned that she will have these sulks and tantrums with DH and I in front of our children.

To be honest it all feels like a bit of a mess and I don't know if I can handle her or if I should even bother. But then I don't know if I can deal with the fall out of telling her that enough is enough and I'd rather she left me, DH and our DC alone.

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karmakameleon · 02/01/2012 11:40

Bumping. Sorry, know it's long but really would appreciate some thoughts/another perspective. Thanks

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BerthaTheBogBurglar · 02/01/2012 11:47

I'm at a loss to understand why your dh persuaded her not to move to a hotel when she wanted to go!

Current situation - if she is still ignoring you / ignoring your clearly expressed and reasonable wishes / being rude then it's time to tell her to leave. You don't have to put up with this, you really don't.

Future - try imagining your child at various different ages and imagine how you'd like a relationship between that child and your mother to be. Then put that aside to grieve over later cos it aint going to happen. Now imagine the best relationship you can between that child and your mother, given what you know of your mother. Do you want that relationship for your child? Would it be ok? Or do you actively not want it? Is it something you want to protect your child from?

If you're going to "stop bothering" with her, it will be a lot easier to do it before she's started some kind of relationship with your baby than after.

What kind of fallout are you afraid of? You live in a different country, if she wants to visit you can say "no, it's not convenient right now". You don't need to answer the phone to her. You don't have to open letters from her.

Is your dad still around? Is that the problem?

Whatever you decide, please decide that she will not be staying with you within 6 months of the baby's birth, and if she stays in a hotel nearby, visits to your home will be limited to 30 minutes and dependent on her behaviour. Seriously, set some big strong boundaries and promise yourself not to feel guilty if she sulks. Don't let her wreck your precious time with your newborn - that's time you're never getting back.

karmakameleon · 02/01/2012 13:20

I don't know why DH tried to persuade her to stay (probably for me) but I know that I felt very uncomfortable letting her just take her bags out on to the street. We don't live in the sort of place where you get a taxi and simply rock up at the nearest hotel so I didn't feel it would be safe for her to go without planning something suitable. I think that she realised this and that is the main reason why she came back. We both assumed that she would at least try to calm down and be civilised for the rest of her stay or change her flights home if she really wanted to make a point. She doesn't seem to be doing either.

My mum and dad seperated straight after our wedding. There were obviously lots of issues but I think things came to a head because he took our "side" with the wedding prep and she hates it when people don't do as she wants, so probably she became impossible for him to live with after that. He doesn't talk about it much so I only get her side, which frankly I don't entirely believe.

But Bertha I think you are right and I have to do something. I'm not sure that just having contact when she "behaves" is possible any more. But partly, I'm not sure how to end contact on a practical level and on an emotional level she is still my mother and was quite normal while we were growing up so maybe I do hope she can be "normal" again. In terms of the fallout, when we deny contact and she wants it, we are bombarded with nasty emails and agressive phone calls. Previously this behaviour has extended to wider family that have "taken our side" and that really does upset me. I feel really guilty that my aunts, uncles and cousins have to put up with her behaviour and helpless to stop it.

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Nanny0gg · 02/01/2012 13:56

You have to sit her down and explain that if she wants anything to do with you and future GC then things have to change and they have to change now.
She needs to go back home and think about what she wants. You and your DH will be open to a proper relationship if she will change. However, if she carries on as she has then contact will stop and e-mails etc will be blocked.

The ball is then in her court. No change, no contact. She may be your mother, but she sure isn't acting like it and you don't need any dc being exposed to such attitudes.

LesserOfTwoWeevils · 02/01/2012 14:01

Can you arrange for her to go to a hotel now? The current situation sounds unbearable.
Since you and your DH seem able to talk her directly about her behaviour, I'd lay down some ground rules and say she follows them or else.
On a practical level, ending contact is easy if you decide to go that way?just don't do it! Don't initiate it, don't answer her phone calls, send her e-mails straight to the junk box.

BerthaTheBogBurglar · 02/01/2012 19:28

I'd be arranging her a hotel, then. Don't put up with her for another 3 weeks, turf her out (to a nice safe hotel). It may help for her to see that you mean business and that she can't continue to walk over you. At the moment she thinks she can behave exactly as she likes, and then, when she wants, pretend nothing happened and start over. You need to show her that that isn't going to happen any more.

She'll sulk, which is fine, and eventually get in contact pretending nothing happened. At which point you can say that she treated you badly before and you need to be sure she will not do it again. Therefore you require an apology and her promise that she will treat you with respect. She will storm off in a huff. Eventually she will come back and try to pretend that everything is fine, and you get to repeat yourself.

This has the advantage that it isn't you preventing her from seeing you or her grandchild. You can tell her this, and say it to any family members who think you should see her, and remind yourself of it when you feel guilty. You're not preventing the relationship - she can choose to resume the relationship at any point, all she needs to do is show you that she has decided to start treating you like a human being, rather than an object that she uses to meet her emotional needs.

You can set up your email account to bounce any emails back (unless they contain the word "sorry" Grin) and get caller id / let calls go to answermachine and not pick up if it is her. Your relatives can do the same. As long as you completely ignore her she'll stop. If you "feed" her by occasionally replying and trying to reason with her, she'll carry on.

If she does get to the point where she decides to apologise, you can accept gracefully and then point out that you need to take things very slowly while she regains your trust. And therefore she needs to plan a short visit (like 3 days), stay in a nearby hotel, and make very short visits to your home.

karmakameleon · 03/01/2012 07:24

Well, she's seems to have stopped sulking now. She managed to make small talk with me over breakfast, mostly about what she was going to cook today. DH had already gone to work so not sure if she is talking to him or not.

DH and I had a long chat about it last night and we are both agreed that we don't want to expose our DC to this sort of behaviour but I think we would both like to leave the door open to her if she can behave well. The problem is that she is so unpredicable and even if she promises to stop the sulks and the tantrums, it's really only a matter of time before we go through it all again. In her mind, her behaviour is completely reasonable and the issue is entirely with us so there will also be complete denial that there is anything wrong.

Anyhow, we are agreed that we will try and sit down and talk to her tonight. If she won't listen, we will help her find a hotel and/or change her flights. If she wants to come when the baby is born, it will be for a maximum of a week and if she carries on like this again, we will ask her to leave straight away and next time there won't be second chances. I know that the conversation won't go well and only hope that we can stick to our guns.

Thanks for all your help and wish us luck!

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NotTheBlinkingGruffaloAgain · 03/01/2012 07:38

She sounds like she has a personality disorder, this is your chance now it's your lifeenjoy your child and keep your distance

NorksAreMessy · 03/01/2012 07:45

Am I right in thinking she was having marriage problems just as you were planning your wedding? Do you think that might explain some of her problems?

There is something very wrong here. People simply don't behave in this irrational fashion unless they are troubled about something deeper than packets and jars. What is her real problem?

karmakameleon · 03/01/2012 08:28

She probably does have a personality disorder but I think that makes me feel more guilty for abandoning her as it probably isn't something she can control and because of her behaviour she has fewer and fewer people left to support her.

Re the marriage difficulties, my mum and dad have had significant troubles in their marriage for as long as I can remember but come from a generation/culture where you just don't get divorced so don't think there was anything specific going on when we planned our wedding.

I wish I knew what the real problem was. She said at the weekend that she was angry because DH and I took my dad's side in the divorce. As far as I am concerned we did and tried to be supportive to both without getting involved (ie just listen lots but not do anything). The only time we tried to intervene was when she decided to follow a strategy of taking the divorce to a full trial. Essentially she wanted to waste money on lawyers' fees because she didn't want my dad to come out of the divorce with any assets at all. We tried to point out that she was cutting off her nose to spite her face and she wasn't maximising her own financial settlement but that was supposedly taking my dad's side.

Tbh even if we had taken my dad's side about the divorce, her history of arguments with me goes back much further. I think quite simply as I have become an adult and made my own decisions in life she has felt that she has lost control. The first major row we had was when I bought my first flat and got one she didn't like (wrong area, near my friends rather than close to her) and too small (the biggest I could afford without taking money off my parents but she couldn't see why I would want to do this on my own when she wanted to contribute). I went ahead without her approval and it's been downhill ever since.

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myTHINyear · 03/01/2012 08:42

But with people like this you can't win. Whatever you do will not be quite right because your mother's mind is so un-peaceful/ un-balanced. You can't keep putting band aids on the situation she has to address her issues and unhappiness her self because ultimately she is the only person who can change this.

I am speaking from experience, my mother who I love dearly is schizophrenic I have never lived with her but have always had contact and she is in my life.

I have learnt that I can't carry her my whole life, stop feeling responsible for how she feels or how her unstable mind is dealing with things or reacting to things, she is coming from a skewed perception which I will never be able to change.

Now your priority is your child and you don't want your baby to be affected by her negativity.

I do feel for you, I really do, but you do need to make some clear boundaries for the sake of your own future.

BTW excellent book: Daughters of Madness (might help)

AttilaTheMeerkat · 03/01/2012 09:03

"She probably does have a personality disorder but I think that makes me feel more guilty for abandoning her as it probably isn't something she can control and because of her behaviour she has fewer and fewer people left to support her".

You will not abandon her to my mind if you were to draw a line now over this.
She could have sought help for her problems but for whatever reasons has chosen to remain stuck and act like she does (power and control). It is still inexcusable for how she has and continues to treat you though. You would not tolerate this from a friend, your mother is no different.

Your job, one of many, as a parent is to protect any children you have from such malign toxic influences like your mother's; this type of dysfunctional crap is often passed from one generation to the next as well and given opportunity she could well start on your child (and will likely do so by using gifts to buy their affections or used to get back at you, gifts can be tools of manipulation for such people).

Many adults who were children of such toxic parents have FOG - fear, obligation, guilt. All that FOG you carry around is really totally misplaced, your mother has also acted like she does because she can. This is all about her wanting everyone else around her to dance to her tune and she sulks when she does not get her own way. I would ignore her completely and do not rise at all in any way to her bait because this is also what she wants from you. Cutting her off may seem a step too far but you need to protect your own self ultimately. Toxic people never apologise for their actions let alone take any responsibility for them.

Would suggest you read "Toxic Parents" and "Children of the Self Absorbed".

smearedinfood · 03/01/2012 09:15

I think she wants to feel useful and appreciated but is going about it in a rather misguided fashion and playing the martyr. I don't think she appreciates the fact that you are a grown up. I'm thinking that she's only been a home maker and is now rather directionless in life after the divorce.
She will probably look forward to her grand child as it will give her a new 'role'.
Try not to take her personally. She's lonely. 3 weeks is not forever.
Talk up activities that you have done and suggest they would interest her as she's obviously bored at home and is giving herself jobs. Is there anything she can do in a voluntary charity capacity in your area for the remainder 3 weeks?

SantaIsAnAnagramOfSatan · 03/01/2012 09:21

i think you are going to have to point out that she driving you away. that you would 'like' to have a relationship with her and her with your child but that she is making that impossible currently. tell her you're worried that she is going to drive everyone away. try and throw in positives (sandwiching - which means something positive, constructive criticism then something positive again) eg. i remember x positive things about you in my childhood, in recent times you have become very unreasonable and particularly x, y and z is driving us apart, i'm sure you could be a wonderful grandmother if you took time to deal with whatever is making you like this.

it is hard but you have to assert yourself now - you're going to be a mother and you are a married adult living a long way away and yet she is still pulling the strings. it's time to stop it and the choice is hers really whether she changes how she deals with you all or loses you.

karmakameleon · 03/01/2012 10:40

smearedinfood Although I can see why you'd think she's always been a SAHM from what I've written, but my mum is actually a doctor and until she retired a couple of years ago has pretty much always worked in some capacity. But for some reason she has this idea that cooking and cleaning are the most important things in the world and heavily critisises any woman who would dare outsource either.

I do agree that she is bored here though but all our suggestions have fallen on deaf ears and believe me we have made a few. I hadn't thought about voluntary work though but think it might be difficult to find something for just a couple of weeks. Also as most of the expats are away for Xmas and New Year, bit difficult to get any contacts until next week even if she is keen.

I think you are all right though and I do need to put in place much stronger boundaries than I have before and be prepared for the fall out but not let it put me off. I am worried that I won't have the strength to see it through. Also, although I know most people will understand, I think that I will get a lot of pressure from people, some of whom don't speak to her themselves, to let it go and to allow her contact with her GC because it isn't fair to deny her completely.

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 03/01/2012 10:50

"I think that I will get a lot of pressure from people, some of whom don't speak to her themselves, to let it go and to allow her contact with her GC because it isn't fair to deny her completely".

Do not let well meaning but useless rellies browbeat you re your mothers contact with your child. You and your H have the final say and must have a united front. A lot of them as well do not speak to your mother for good reasons, why should your child be subjected to her nonsense?.

You cannot win with such toxic people like your mother. You could make the best suggestions in the world but your mother does not want your opinions and advice because she does not want your help or anyone's help for that matter. She is one truly damaged and messed up individual; her own family likely made her that way because they treated her abusively in childhood. You did NOT make her this way.

Your mother has already blighted a number of lives, not least of all yours, because of her behaviours. Do not let another generation i.e your child become yet another of her victims.

Abitwobblynow · 03/01/2012 11:16

Attila is telling you the unvarnished truth. Your mother is a narcissist. It is a personality disorder and she will never, ever change. It doesn't matter how you sit down and explain to her, every minute of that time and every movement of your mouth lips and tongue will be wasted - she won't get it. Because getting it, means she has to care about you and put you first, and it means she would have to acknowledge that she is wrong. NEVER. That will never happen.

It is very painful to realise that you will NEVER have the relationship you hope for, but you have to go through the painful process of accepting that this is who she is. This really is who she is: a selfish, hurtful, unloving person who puts herself first always and does not act as a mother should. And why she is, is way in the past and you cannot change it. It isn't a misunderstanding, it isn't because you did anything wrong, it will never change and you have no control.

These people are very very toxic and the only thing you can do is forever let go of the hope that things will be different, but learn to protect yourself and give her boundaries. The only person you can change is yourself. That is a long, hard, painful road because she has trained you from birth to put her first.

Be thankful to your H and his healthy reaction to your mother (revulsion, anger). He is your family and your hope now. Thank goodness he moved you to another country!

Start reading, start getting real and start grieving. Susan Forward: Toxic Parents, and any book on how to live with/manage the narcissist in your life (Amazon). You will recognise and learn how to resist her means of controlling you. I see she is heavily into the martyr/sulk/guilt manipulation means of control. Good luck, reclaim your life and your new family for yourself.

Abitwobblynow · 03/01/2012 11:29

PS and when you do (set boundaries, and consequences), she will go absolutely apeshit. She will ESCALATE everything she is doing now, to warp speed. In fact, the only thing she will not do, is manage to get in touch with President Ahmedinejad of Iran and organise World War 3.

Stand firm, and immovable in the face of all the threats, tears, rage and promises of suicide. Stand firm in the face of the guilt (family members saying why are you hurting your poor mother etc). Stand firm, don't get embroiled, repeat the boundaries and the consequences.

This is a very hard time and you will doubt yourself and your sanity. You will feel very sad, very frightened and very alone. I strongly recommend therapy at this time (tell them you suspect your mother is an extreme narcissist there are some who specialise in this).

karmakameleon · 03/01/2012 11:43

Oh yes, see all the books that have been recommended are available on Kindle. Was worried that I may have to wait till our next trip to the UK as difficult to get books here and no Amazon. Which book would be best to cover coping strategies so that I actually have the strength to go through with this?

I'm glad that people are being honest and not sugar coating it. Most of the RL advice I get is that I should try to be understanding because she has had a troubled life, which is fine when I'm only exposing myself to her behaviour but I don't want to do that to our children.

Attila What you say about her own childhood is likely to be true. From all accounts my grandmother was quite volatile. Of her four children, my mother refuses to speak to her but this has only been in the last five or so years, one son is an alcoholic so not exactly reliable, and my other uncle and aunt are both very close to her but admit she has her "moments". However, she was very close to all her grandchildren growing up and none of us (as far as know) have ever been directly exposed to negative behaviour. Maybe I'm hoping that my mum could follow the same pattern, maybe not the best mother but a decent grandmother.

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karmakameleon · 03/01/2012 11:46

Abit Yes suspect WW3 is definitely on the cards tonight! I was thinking about therapy but again one of the problems of living abroad is that I'm not sure what (if anything) is available. DH has good health insurance though so may see if he can give them a ring and maybe see if it is possible to do something over the phone to the UK.

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franke · 03/01/2012 12:04

What are you actually scared of? What is the worst that can happen? Maybe if you can answer these questions to yourself, you will cope better with the fall-out.

I have a mildly toxic mother, though not as bad as yours. I also live abroad. Over the years I have detached emotionally from her and she has gradually realised this. She has also realised that in terms of family contact I hold all the trump cards. So her behaviour has improved considerably. I am very strict about when she visits (NEVER over xmas), pay for her flights so no stick to beat me with and call her on rudeness if she starts. It can be a bit stressful, exhausting even, and our relationship is not at all close, but she is truly lovely with my dc. I take the attitude that I am a grown-up with a family, not her little girl. If she wants to visit, then she does so on my terms.

I'm not saying this will all pan out with your mum in the same way, but you will have to be strong and show a united front with dh. And this is about what YOU want, not about how other people, mother, relatives etc, think you ought to behave. Good luck, I'm sorry you're having to deal with this right now.

Moobee · 03/01/2012 12:21

I know she's your mother, but what do you actually get out of your relationship with her? It sounds like compromises on things which should actually be your decision (the wedding, the fact that she's cooking too much food in your house, staying too long), stress and trying to understand her motives rather than having a mutually supportive relationship.

I think you have to be firm with her and this may mean she stops speaking to you, but will your life be poorer for it? It doesn't sound like she can be the mother you want her to be.

Abitwobblynow · 03/01/2012 12:21

Well done Franke, well done. They do start respecting boundaries if the consequences unfailingly follow for not respecting them.

Unfortunately I never worked it out with my mother (who was diagnosed as extremely narcissistic) no contact was the only way to go (ironically over my wedding, same story Karma! Cathedral, Bishop, her wedding list etc but of course we were required to pay for it all, I finally said NO to my mother), because she was so enabled by my Dad (also a narcissist) and my brothers, who not being the designated family scapegoat (another narcissist dynamic) really couldn't see why I was being so 'difficult' and 'horrible' to her.

I think I must have been the only child in the world who used to fantasise about being adopted! I really did you know

karmakameleon · 03/01/2012 13:05

I think the thing that most surprises me about this thread is how "extreme" people think her behaviour is. I guess that I have either seen each individual incident as petty and unimportant and have managed to minimise the bigger ones (like the wedding). I actually feel quite sad that I've tried to downplay it.

Abit Your situation sounds horrendous. I guess that I am lucky in that at least I know that my dad and my sister understand and are generally supportive, although I think my dad will be upset if we have to stop all contact with her especially when he finds out that a DGC is on the way.

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scotsgirl23 · 03/01/2012 14:13

Karma you may well find that once baby arrives, you simply won't tolerate what you did before. I didn't speak to my mother (Toxic, probably narc) mother for over 3 years - ironically over my wedding, my workmates organised a hen do and she was enraged to not be invited as "the hen night is about the mother". However, her sister died when I was pregnant so we ended up back in touch. She behaved ok to begin with buit gradually got worse and worse.

She's always had a major issue with my weight (even when I'm a totally healthy size) and it has ruined my self confidence. I swore she'd never do it to my daughter. She was at my house one day when I was baking and she just went on and on and on about the calories/fat/sugar I was using (chocolate brownies, they aren't meant to be low fat!) and how I must never feed them to my DD as she'd become a wee fat lump. She then piped up with "it's a shame you called her x, as she'll get nicknamed "sexy x" and that will be very cruel when she's a wee fat thing. "

I lost it. The sort of abuse I would tolerate for myself, I won't tolerate for my daughter. I haven't seen her since.