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happychappy · 05/12/2011 10:40

I was so certain on Friday and now confused.

Sorry really really long.

My H and I have been together for 20 years we have 2 children 13 and 9. He loves his kids and is a good dad but a rubbish H. I feel like I have married his mother. She is v. passive aggressive and when is cross says things or does things which she knows will get a reaction. He does this too. They are both perfectists in terms of their expectations of others but take little or no responsibility for their own shortcoming and failures. They both expect and expect and expect and then demand everything on their own terms. I have barely spoken to his mother in years and really don't want a relationship with her. Though H keeps pushing and making it difficult for me to avoid contact. I blame a lot of our problems on her and his upbringing (single parent family with little or no contact with dad).

We moved last years, it was an incredibly stressful difficult move. Mostly the stresses came from H and his moods and bad tempers. I haven't forgiven him for it. Since moving our relationship has seemed to just get worse and worse. His moods and bad tempers tip me over the edge and then I explode and rant and rave. He says he's sorry and then we pretend everythings ok for a day or two or if we are lucky a week. The problem is always my period nothing to do with him. When I lose my temper he then feels justified to say really nasty spiteful things, I try very hard not too but sometimes they are just so hurtful. This is the cycle, it never changes and never gets better. Last September we had an enormous row in which things got really out of hand. I said unless this stops and if things ever get this bad again I would HAVE to leave. I said its not fair for the children to think this is how normal relationships work. We have barely spoken in a month and half, our sex life is shit and he has been in a mood most of that time. I don't want to spend any time with him and resent the stress he puts on all our lives. Apart from last Sunday I spent the last 3 Sundays angry upset and in tears. Last Wednesday I packed my bags and left the house. I can't stand it anymore. I want out. He said the most terrible things and was really really spiteful and at the same time sent messages like your breaking my heart. Its confusing and difficult. I kept calm and said I meant it and I went back to the house because a friend advised by leaving the house it would cause problems for custody. This was Friday. Saturday I had 2 crowns so was feeling really poorly most of the day and spent it in bed. He was on best behavior.
Sunday he cried and begged and pleaded for me not to go. In September I asked him to go to relate with me. He refused. Sunday he said he would go to the Dr about his moods and go to relate. I felt torn because I don't want to leave just before Christmas because of the kids. I see no good future in our relationship and feel we are slowly fucking up our kids by carrying on. I have no good feelings for him. When he's on his best behavior we are ok the rest of the time I want out. I said I would stay there in the spare room until February. But if things started again I was off. I have money for a deposit on a house if needed.
I feel like I've done the wrong thing. I feel like I should go. He has had 20 years of chances. I don't hate him but I don't love him or even like him.
He is now trying to push for more from me but I have nothing to give him other than civil behavior.

Have I done the wrong thing? Should I go? Friday I was so sure I needed to go now I still want to but what about my kids, I'm going to break their hearts.

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racingheart · 05/12/2011 13:15

Hi

Sorry to hear you are going through such a hard time. At least you have some sensible options open to you. You ask if Relate can help arrange an amicable breakup - yes, definitely they can, and it sounds as if this would really help you both. It's hard to say whether you are really unsuited or just hitting a very bad patch. From what you say his bad behaviour is no worse than yours, just different in a way you really can't stomach. Sounds like you are just temperamentally at odds with each other.

I wouldn't dream of saying whether you should stay or go on the basis on the info you've given, but am glad you have some things in your favour - like flexible, well paid work. Hope all works out for you so you can focus on the children having a calm and happy Christmas, whatever the circumstances.

babyhammock · 05/12/2011 13:15

I'm a single parent too and I wasn't in the least offended either.... you just sound desperate.
You know he won't change
You know it will always be shit
You need to leave and start living asap
Don't leave without the children, not even for a few days
Big hugs... x

TheSecondComing · 05/12/2011 13:23

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happychappy · 05/12/2011 13:30

He says now he will!!! bit overdue no?

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babyhammock · 05/12/2011 13:31

Am I missing something? How are they as bad as eachother Confused

AttilaTheMeerkat · 05/12/2011 13:39

You mean he said he will go to Relate now?.

Again I think this is designed to reel you back in and stay with him. Its all far too little and far too late.

I doubt given his past behaviour he will make things as amicable as possible for you when he is presented with a break up.

Both of you need to take full responsibility here for the parlous state of this relationship.

Its your children I feel the most sorry for in all this, they are seeing all the details of their parents private war at first hand and both of you are imparting damaging lessons to them. Your recent post in which you talked of owning separate properties (whilst seemingly still being married to each other?) is to my mind just a recipe for further disaster. CAB will likely as well deem your case too complicated and will point you in the direction of a solicitor.

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happychappy · 05/12/2011 14:50

I have just rang a councillor and got the information. i leave it with him and see whether he's serious or not. Balls in his court.

To be a bit fair my stroppy teenage side comes out when I have someone (H) following pushing for a fight for days. I'd like to see anyone remain calm with someone refusing to eat what you've cooked because they don't like it (even though its been fine every other time I've cooked it), ignoring you when you speak, whatever you do should have been done another way, whatever you say rolls eyes, huffs likes a dragon. This doesn't last for an hour or two it can last for weeks. Its enough to drive the sanest person crazy. he once didn't speak to me for 2 days because I didn't iron his trousers.
The last strop lasted 3 weeks before I cracked. It's not depression because he's the life and soul of the party as soon as he's with his mates making digs about mean I am and what a miserable person I am.

I admit I shouldn't do as I do but I am pushed very very hard.

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happychappy · 05/12/2011 14:53

I feel I have to defend myself. I am trying to do whats best and recognizing the reality of our situation. I have been honest on my part but won't take the whole responsibility for OUR situation. The things that were said to me on Thursday would have made most people very very angry and upset but I sucked it up and let it go. I would like people to try to be a little bit more constructive rather than judgemental

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happychappy · 05/12/2011 14:55

Sorry I'll rephrase that some people to be a little be more constructive and a little less judgmental. It's easy to judge when you're not living in the situation.

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kaluki · 05/12/2011 16:54

If he means it he will still go to relate if you have left with a view to either reconciliation or an amicable split for the sake of the dc.
I agree that you should not leave the dc at all.

I was a single parent for terms bs I didn't take offence either - I think some people are a wee bit over sensitive on here x

kaluki · 05/12/2011 16:58

Oh dear!!!
I was a single parent for years and I didn't take offence is what I meant to say!!!
Sorry!!! Blush

happychappy · 06/12/2011 16:44

Well he did book an appointment with a councellor so here goes nothing

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