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mozilla search bar?

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xanthum · 03/12/2011 20:58

Quick one. on mozilla there is a search bar on the top right of screen. when you type in a letter searches have made come up. below are suggestion. can you have searches that you hsven't done Thanks

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fiventhree · 07/12/2011 08:26

And he has internet sex with over 100 women. Check your photos in received files, too.

lubeybaublely · 07/12/2011 08:28
  1. is it a google search bar?

  2. if it is, are the terms you meantion above or below a black or grey line seprating them from other suggestions?

  3. if they are above the line, then those terms have been searched for.

KissMyA · 07/12/2011 08:33

Xanthum - do you really think those things popped up on Mozilla by themselves? I'm sure you know deep down they didn't.

Of course he's saying it was not him - he knows he'll be in deep shit if he admits it.

When you're ready to believe it you will and we'll be here.

Charbon · 07/12/2011 09:10

Xanthum if those sites were shown above the 'line' in the google box, they have definitely been searched on your computer. If only you and your partner have access to it, then it must be him. If you can rule out DCs, their friends, or someone visiting the house intent on causing trouble/using a different PC to avoid detection at home, then it only leaves you and DP. It's good that he's not getting angry, but try to put yourself in his position. Wouldn't you be massively unsettled if this happened and wonder how on earth those searches came to be made? Wouldn't you want to get to the bottom of that? Your partner sounds curiously passive and I think that's suspicious in itself.

It sounds like it's going to be utterly fruitless getting him to admit it though, so I'd be inclined to move the conversation away from this and on to what this means about your partner. I noticed you said you wouldn't mind if he was searching for porn and that makes me wonder why you would accept any level of secrecy in your relationship? Set aside the arguments against porn for a moment, it's the secrecy I want you to focus on. If you had found porn searches and nothing else, it would still have meant that you learnt something about your partner that you didn't know and had been kept secret. Why would that be acceptable to you, I wonder?

The thing that always strikes me about threads like this too, when one partner denies the undeniable, is that it shows absolute contempt for the other's intelligence. It always makes me wonder whether the ability to get one over on a justifiably suspicious partner is providing an additional 'kick' of some sort.

prh47bridge · 07/12/2011 10:36

I wouldn't be quite so definite about him having typed these search terms. I would agree that Google thinks he did but there are at least five other possibilities.

Firstly there is some malware which deliberately adds items to your search history, presumably in an attempt to encourage you to visit the websites concerned.

Secondly it is possible that some software has been conducting Google searches on his behalf. So, for example, if he visits a porn site it could pop up a screen with a Google search for "freesexdates". That would then appear in his search history although he himself has never searched for it.

Thirdly if he signs in to Google (as many people do these days) it is possible his account has been hacked, probably in an attempt to get access to his email account and use it for spam - this happened to me. If his account has been hacked any searches conducted by the hacker will appear in his search history.

Fourthly there was at least one instance earlier this year where a bug in some third party software meant that Google got confused and recorded searches against the wrong user.

Finally there are so many threads on Google's support forum from people complaining that their search history shows searches they haven't made that I wonder if, despite Google's denials, there are bugs in their software which can cause this to happen. It clearly doesn't affect everyone but it seems over 18,000 people have experienced this problem.

prh47bridge · 07/12/2011 10:40

Oh, and to add a sixth explanation, if he has a Google account, signs into it on a public computer and then forgets to sign out, any searches conducted by subsequent users will be recorded in his search history.

So I don't think he is denying the undeniable. By the way, I have personally been affected by search terms appearing in my history which I haven't searched for but in my case it wasn't sex sites.

Charbon · 07/12/2011 10:42

If this man was indefatigable in his attempts to find out why it has happened, I'd agree with you about other possibilities prh. It's certainly what I'd do, if I wanted to reassure my partner and it was causing him so much distress. What I wouldn't do was insist it wasn't me and make no efforts to find out why it had happened.

bubblechristmaspop · 07/12/2011 10:55

That's all irrelevant though PH. As you are talking about google search. The searches will stored be in google history.

It won't automatically suggest those searches, from a Moz browser, unless they have been typed in.

Search history and searched suggestions are two different things. Theres lots of technical crap I could spout, but I've forgotten it. I'd have to ask mr pop.

prh47bridge · 07/12/2011 10:58

Surely that depends on how technically savvy he is, though. I suspect most people wouldn't know where to begin with something like this. For example, most people probably don't know that if they sign in to Google their search history is recorded on Google's servers and used to generate suggestions on their PC. Indeed, as we've seen on this thread, some people don't even realise that the items above the line on the list are from their personal search history.

If you are one of those people who thinks it is all magic what can you do if something like this happens? My mother is like that and she wouldn't have a clue whether to contact Microsoft, Google, Mozilla, the PC manufacturer or someone else, nor would she be able to figure out how to contact any of those companies.

prh47bridge · 07/12/2011 11:02

bubblechristmaspop - Yes those searches will be suggested from a Mozilla browser.

The search box in the top right uses Google by default, although you can change it to use a different provider. It gets your search history and the suggestions from Google.

The search history is personal to you. If you don't have a Google account it comes from information stored on your PC. If you do have a Google account it comes from Google's servers.

Suggestions are not personalised at all and are popular searches similar to the term you have typed.

Malificence · 07/12/2011 11:21

I wonder if she has done as I suggested and checked the temp files?
If he's not someone who usually deletes their history/sets it up to delete files every time etc. and there is nothing in the files, then he is lying about something.

Something like porn hub is pervasive as it is ,well, a hub for lots of sites, last year DH downloaded a browser app for his iphone that was meant to be better/faster etc. When he went to use it, guess what popped up, yep, pornhub, plus dozens of sites affiliated to it, they all popped up, one after the other . His data files read like he had accessed all those sites and we were both Shock at how easily it happened.

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