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WWYD Worried for pregnant friend- DP with drug issues

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ScratchRhythm · 21/11/2011 11:29

Have name-changed for this. I am worried about a close friend I have known for a long time. I have also known her partner since they started going out, and I was quite close to him at one point too, but I keep my distance from him as much as possible these days because I have started to see him in a different light. They?ve been together for six years and we?re all in our mid- to late- thirties. Recently she announced they were trying to conceive, and I wasn?t too surprised and was very pleased for them.

All the time I have known him, he has been a bit of party animal, partial to a drink, a line (or gram) of coke. To be honest, so were me and my friend back in the day although we grew out of it some time ago. About a month ago, she rang me in a bit of a state, I went round and found her very upset, she broke down and said she was very worried about his behaviour, he was going out on alcohol/cocaine binges two or three times a week and communication was breaking down between them. She felt he should give up the drugs now to give them a better chance of conceiving and to prove he can do it, because obviously this is what she expects when they have a baby. Her feelings (which would not be the same as mine) are that once they have a child, she does not mind the odd bender, 1-2 times per year, but more than that would be unacceptable. He agreed and said he would quit as soon as they have a baby but sees no reason to do so in the meantime. They were having a major disagreement about it.

I advised her to stop trying for now, that his behaviour was concerning and disrespectful, and they should get some counselling around his drug/alcohol issues. The other thing that worries me is that she is financially dependent on him (earns a very low salary and plans to be a SAHM when the baby is born), they are not married, they live in a house which he and his family own and she has only ever paid a nominal ?rent? to live there. I tried to explain to her how tiring it is to have a baby without these other issues. She sounded like she was listening...

A few weeks later, she announced she was pregnant. She was already pregnant when we had the conversation but didn?t know. Now this is happening. I have been away a lot and since I got back have tried to meet up with her, so I can see how she is and whether her DP is behaving himself. My suspicions are that he is not, since I have recently had some online messages from him, sounding wasted, at 3-4 in the morning.

I am so worried about her, I can see this all going horribly wrong, although I hope it doesn?t. They have not always had these problems and have previously been a very strong couple. They clearly love each other very much. What advice/ support can I give her? Is there anything practical she can do about their financial set-up? Is it just none of my business?? I should say that she does not have good relationships with her family and I don?t see them being a source of support to her.

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tallwivglasses · 21/11/2011 23:02

You're his friend too - have a word with him. He needs to slow down now - not once the baby's born. She needs him to be supportive when she's feeling sick or tired or anxious. He needs to be in the right frame of mind for appointments and classes. He sounds well-off but money's going to be tighter and he can't be spending loads on coke-fulled shenanigans.

So, OP, be a good mate to both of them and tell him a few home-truths.

ballroomblitz · 21/11/2011 23:13

I really don't any advice to give. Just wanted to say I have been in that situation. I haven't been an angel in the past but hey we have to grow up once a child comes along.
Got to the stage exp was off his face most of the time, there were drugs round the house which I was petrified of ds finding, he was spending a fortune (and is now near bankrupt) and I even caught ds sticking a straw up his nose one day after he had witnessed his dad doing it. That was enough for me and I walked. Also I had been living in exp's house.
Exp seems to have calmed down on it from what I can see but I lost all respect and love for him. Yeah your friend would need to nip this in the bud before the baby comes along. Would you be comfortable enough to chat to the both of them?

ScratchRhythm · 22/11/2011 14:26

Thanks guys,

ballroomblitz - I'm sorry to hear about your troubles, I'm sure it all turned out for the best.

I am going round there at the first opportunity, to chat with her first and find out exactly what's been going on since she found out she was pregnant. I have had a slightly worrying message from her today so I'm hoping I can go round tonight or tomorrow...

I will make both your points to her. I think she is somewhat in denial at the moment. I will try and set up going for a drink with him separately. However, I'm not sure how much he will like me trying to get involved, he might become petulant about it if everyone appears to be ganging up on him. I'm not sure he CAN stop... I'm going to find out about NA and other counselling so I can mention this to them.

I really want her to get some legal advice though before she puts herself in this vulnerable position. I think part of me thinks she is being really foolish - they have a bit of a 1950s set-up that would make me uncomfortable even if it wasn't for the other issues...

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buzzswellington · 22/11/2011 14:34

Yes, well, the intention to be a sahm yet not being married means she would have very little comeback if the drugs are taking hold of him and it all goes wrong.

I don't like her position at all: she's intending to become even more financially dependent on someone who may not be very stable. She'd have no claim on the house and while she might be entitled to child support from him, actually getting it is another thing.

tallwivglasses · 22/11/2011 18:39

You sound like a really caring friend. I've just got a horrible feeling that if he doesn't address his issues now, he isn't going to miraculously change once he's a dad. If anything, he'll get worse. Many men do transform from party animal to loving dad, but I've seen a few who haven't lived to see their children reach their teens Sad

SolidGoldVampireBat · 22/11/2011 22:04

It sounds to me like this bloke doesn';t want to become a dad or at least not a dad ie he won't mind too much if she has a baby but he won't change his behaviour. The thing is, he can't be made to change. Whether he's an addict or just someone who likes to take drugs and drink and doesn't want to stop is not really relevant, whichever the answer: it is actually up to him what he does. So your friend needs to start working out what she will accept, what she can do, what would happen if his behaviour becomes unbearable and she has to get rid of him.

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