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My mother in law - depression? Something else? Long.

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mishmash70 · 14/11/2011 12:51

My mother in law is a relatively young one - she's 61 and my FIL is the same age. They have both been retired for some years now. I have known them for 21 years, since I began dating my husband when I was still at school.

When I first knew my MIL, she was 40 years old and always had plenty to say for herself, though was never exactly 'happy' and I never saw her get excited about anything - I wouldn't say we had much in common as she never had an education and was of the generation that 'waited on' their husbands and pretty much did as they were told - sort of the opposite of what my generation seemed to do - but despite this we always got along ok.

Over the years, she seemed to change - or perhaps I changed and grew up and gained life experience. I have definitely had the impression over the years that she found me 'difficult' at times and I know (because she has told me) that she finds my ideas about marriage odd and thinks I probably 'have a problem with men' and she thinks this is 'because I never had a father.' She bases her observations on the fact that I have expected my husband (her son) to take turns changing nappies and bathing the children and that sort of thing. I consider this to be the modern way of doing things and I have a career which I have managed to hold onto part-time, so I do expect some help at home.

We now have two lovely kids aged 6 and 2. When the eldest was born (their first grandchild), she was very excited about the baby and started coming to see us all the time, almost just to look at my bump. I thought this was lovely but once the baby was born and the initial joy wore off, their idea of being grandparents seemed to settle into fortnightly visits on their own terms and having photos to show their friends. In six years they have never once wanted to spend time with our kids - and no, they are not badly behaved.

Contact is now limited to babysitting once they are in bed, which she will happily do. They visit every few weeks when the children are awake. They are invited to school plays/nativities/birthday parties but they always decline. We invite them for Christmas and they also decline. Last year they agreed to come for tea on Christmas eve but changed their mind at the last minute. They have us for tea once every two years (cold buffet on boxing day every other year).

For a long time, I really resented my in-laws. I have no family on my side at all, so they are the only family we have and their lack of interest has left me feeling sad and isolated. Just recently I have wondered whether in fact my MIL is depressed - or just bloody miserable.

My FIL is (IMO) selfish and lazy and I'd have hated to have married a man like him. He does as he pleases in his retirement but expects MIL to have his dinner on the table every night. He refuses to drive if they go out together, so she never gets to enjoy a glass of wine. I took her out for lunch recently with our eldest daughter (she was reluctant to come - had to virtually drag her)and she mentioned that he 'never talks to her' in the house and that they sit in silence most of the time. I found her hard work to talk to when we went out for lunch - almost every time she opened her mouth it was to moan or complain about her 'lot' in life. She doesn't start converations and when you talk to her, you get stunted replies - waiting for our food to arrive was painful.

She doesn't see any friends socially except for a couple they see together twice a week. They used to have a wide circle of friends and she used to go abroad on girls' holidays but these trips ceased when they became friends with this other couple. She must be so lonely.

It was her birthday on Saturday and she complained that FIL waited for her to come home to cook his tea as her 'birthday meal.' The other side of the story is that FIL actually offered to take MIL for a meal on her birthday and she declined. When I asked her why, she said it is impossible to get good food in pubs and it's 'all microwaved.' She told us not to bother buying her a birthday present. I bought her a silky dressing gown but she never mentioned it and when I asked whether she'd liked it, she just said 'yes.' She rolls her eyes about the idea of 'bloody christmas' and has once again refused an invitation to DD1's nativity play because it's at 9.30am and they don't get up until at least 10am (unless to catch a cheap flght to Tenerife three times a year I can't help musing).

I find her so negative and miserable and don't know what to do with her anymore. We are renovating our house at the moment and have moved out of it with the children. The renovation is almost complete but we needed to do some painting at the weekend and she agreed to come and sit with the kids for two hours (one of them was asleep). When I got home she said 'If you ever renovate another house, I'm leaving the country.' This two hours babysitting was the only help she's given during the renovation.

I'm torn between feelign sorry for her and feeling like I want to shake her. I resent their lack of interest. I wonder why she's so miserable. I'd like to help but I have two small kids and find them draining so I have no energy left to give. The thought of spending time with her makes me feel miserable. She's like a 'mood hoover.'

I think she needs help but I'm not sure I can give it. What can I suggest? Does she sound depressed? Or just inclined towards being miserable?

What can I do?

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ItsMeAndMyPuppyNow · 14/11/2011 13:25

Not much, I'm afraid.

From what you say, your MIL isn't doing anything overtly objectionable -- save maybe for that 'If you ever renovate another house, I'm leaving the country.' comment, which is a bit Shock

It reads to me like your emotions about her are this strong because of your own lack of a family, and your desire for your DH's family to fill that gap in your life. Perhaps the best thing you can do is work on accepting that MIL and FIL are not the family you would have wanted for yourself, and let it go.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 14/11/2011 13:31

I would say she is inclined towards being miserable. There could well be a depressive element behind all this but its not your issue to take ownership of.

I can empathise with your writings; some of your post (particularly with reference to the apparant lack of interest with regards to the children, being told not to bother with a birthday present and declining all invites to school plays) was like reading about my own mother.

Your description of she being a "mood hoover" is an apt one. These people are fundamentally unhappy and will never be happy because they are at heart dissatisfied with their life, not just to say their own self. It is NOT your fault she is like this; also she has chosen to act like this.

There is nothing you can do about someone like this; your actions will not change such a person and any help you offer will be thrown back at you in spades. All you can yourself do is change how you react to her.

mishmash70 · 27/11/2011 23:03

Good grief, I'm really struggling with her now. I'm beginning to wonder what the hell's wrong with her or me.

My daughter's school is having an OFSTED inspection this week. We found out on Friday and I offered to come in an help her teacher if there was anything I could do on Saturday or Sunday evenings (I wasn't available during the day). The reason I wasn't available today was because DH and I are renovating this house and we have to hang curtain rails up. As we're not living in the house and it's a 2-person job, we need a babysitter before we can do these sorts of jobs. We bought the rails on Friday and set today aside to do it - we move back in in 19 days time.

His parents had agreed to come over for a couple of hours. 10 minutes after they arrived (as we were getting our coats on), the teacher rang in a tizz saying she really, really needed some help. She hadn't slept for 2 nights and obviously forgot I'd said I wasn't available in the day. Initially I said I couldn't come but DH had picked up the phone and worked out what the conversation was and indicated 'just go', so I agreed I'd get there right away - I really felt for her and we're a community so I felt I wanted to help.

My MIL was LIVID that I had gone to help the school for a couple of hours. Absolutely LIVID. DD2 was about to go for a sleep and there was a chicken in the oven, which I said needed switching off at 2pm. She even looked livid about having to switch the chicken off, to such an extent that I came back in and asked if the chicken was a problem (FFS!) and did she want me to switch it off before I left.

Arrived home a few hours later to find she's literally switched the flaming chicken off, hadn't uncovered it or basted it or done what you would do if you were cooking it yourself. She was in such a foul mood. We decided to take the kids out to the local pub for tea and asked them to join us - FIL was keen but MIL said they were going out to an Indian buffet place (hadn't booked) and that was the end of that.

Anyway - DD's school is striking on Wednesady and DH had asked his mum to have DD1 between 12-4.30pm which she's agreed to. In hindsight I thought after today's performance I'd just take a day off work unpaid to look after DD1 as she makes me feel so guilty askign for help - I said (nicely) that I'd decided just to take the day off work as it was easier than corssing a picket line (jokingly trying not to tell her the real reason) and she gave me such filthy looks. I can't do right for doing wrong.

HOw can I deal with her?

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LesserOfTwoWeevils · 28/11/2011 00:29

What does your DH think about all this?
She's his mother, but you haven't said how he gets along with her, whether he's noticed the change, how he feels about his parents.
Why is that?

TheLastChocolate · 29/11/2011 00:18

OP - you were right when you called her a 'mood hoover'

I would be careful to make sure that you protect your kids from picking up on these negative vibes, esp your 6 year old who will be more aware than the younger one.

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