the banning of the christmas tree.... part 2

[christmaslovingbluealien]

well, a few weeks ago, dh decided to ban christmas this year. particularly a tree. but 4 year old ds2 keeps asking for one. so todaay me and the kids made one!
yep. am feeling really proud of self right now. its only a two dimensional one, but will stick it o the patio doors window. and we can put the presents underneath it. got decorations on it and everything.

??!!?? DH decided to ban Christmas? Good on you for rallying your kids and salvaging some joy out of the occasion but ?!?!?!?! WHAT???? How about banning DH, the miserable curmudgeonly b**tard??

so youve met him??

he is a tight git. but in his defense. teeny tiny defense that is, we're not christian. or english either. absolutley miniscule defense. we are muslims.

(im stitch btw)

Nonetheless, when in Rome etc... Yes, in context I can understand a bit more why your dh mught have a problem with Christmas, but his kids are living in an environment where everyone else is celebrating it and they don't want to be excluded. I think you can still give your children a firm grounding in their Muslim culture without being unnecessarily punitive and CURMUDGEONLY. In fact it might have more impact if they didn't feel aggrieved!!!

I think it's great that you've given your children a tree, let him fester!!!!!

lol stitch!
Can't you just say that you're acknowledging the fact that Jesus one of many prophets???

Think your DH overreacted somewhat. Good on you for making a tree.

My friend's muslim and she is going to buy a Christmas tree for her dd of 2 to look at as she's been asking why they don't have one (they have a tree at the nursery she attends). Her DH has agreed to a tree but they'll hide it from her parents.

i have a dear friend who is married to an Iraqi. Her mother in law lives with them. She is a very devout Muslim. My friend has never converted but the children are being brought up muslim.
She refuses to deny her own culture, so every year they have a load of relatives around and have a very happy Muslim Christmas. Now THATS multiculturalism.

A Christmas tree isn't representative of Christianity, anyway, so it doesn't conflict with other religions any more than what colour of curtains you choose.
Glad your kids are happy. We succeed in having a completely irreligious Christmas every year!

we have just spent a happy half hour sticking more glittery bits on the tree, which is now on the patio doors looking lovely.
dh is too busy with decorators and plumbers to think about creating a fuss about this.

actually, this tree has been much more fun than the real one we had two years ago.
thats the problem with dh. he keeps changing his mind. one year he buys a tree himself, and changes it coz it not big enough in his opinion. the next year he says we're muslims so cant celebrate. wtf? also school trips to church. one year he says singing hymns doesnt harm anyone, the next he wont let ds1 go with the school....
oh well, we have a lovely christmas treee. i have lovely mn friends. the world is all lovely and pink and fluffy and nice.!

Stitch - I'm delighted to know that you are Christmaslovingbluealien. I was wondering where you had gone! Doh! I hope that you and yours have a very happy Christmas. BTW it's a pagan festival designed to cheer everyone up in the middle of winter, hijacked by the christians, so you can enjoy your tree and gifts without compromising your beliefs!

Happy Christmas Stitch - I hope you and your children enjoy every minute of your fab tree!

I'm having a Winter Festival, personally, complete with symbolism of the new baby and the turn of the year

stitch,I am chuckling at the description of your dh.
Hey,aren't we all a bit like that sometimes??
Iseem to be going through an ultra Christian period at present-by march I'll probably be checking out Zoroastrianism.

Oh stitch your dh! Well, I'm glad you and the children are having fun and hope you all have a wonderful Christmas

Happy Winter Festival (aka christmas in disguise!) Stitch, your patio tree sounds lovely tbh. Stuff Dh full of chocolate, that should mellow him out a bit

DH, who (although from Muslim country) believes in "nothing", was also objecting to Christmas trees. He even objected to DS and DD seeing Santa, as that was too religious. At the same time his nephew is staying with us for indetermined time and he only eats halal meat. So p....ed off myself as can't eat turkey/beef/tesco snacks... because why, o yes because of religious reasons....

Christmas trees are pagan anyway, not even Christian.

Mixed can't you tell him he's talking out of his arse? Go on have a turkey sandwich you know you want one. But seriously, why does his nephew's beliefs have to affect your choices if you don't want them to?

Hmmm, I don't think that Muslims are any keener on Pagans traditions than they are Christian ones

Me, I'll celibrate anything

True!

That reminds me of part of my family living in the US, they don't celebrate Thanksgiving Day, instead the celebrate the "Big Turkey Day".

Easter is the "Day of the Female Rabbit" (I guess that female comes of a rabbit laying the eggs, but I'm not sure)