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Would this bother you?

38 replies

gillyglops · 25/09/2011 17:30

DP and I have been having problems with our sex life - his depression and health problems have meant that it's pretty non-existent and has been for quite some time. It's been difficult talking about it, because he finds it very hard to open up, but he's finally agreed to seek some counselling. All very well, but...

A couple of weeks ago, he went to visit a friend and his wife. While the husband was out of the room, he asked the wife if she was ok, as she'd seemed down the last time he'd seen her. She told him that she and her hubby were having problems in the bedroom dept. At this, he opened up to her and told her we were going through the same. Before he left, she gave him some herbal viagra-type tablets to try. He only told me about all of this last night - said he'd kept it quiet because he knew I would be upset.

He's right, I'm very upset. After months of telling me that he hates even having to talk to me about our problems, and after us nearly splitting up before he agreed to counselling, he suddenly finds it opportune and appropriate to open up to his close friend's wife. He says I'm being unreasonable and should feel happy that he felt able to tell someone, as it bodes well for him talking to a counseller. He also says he only told her because she brought the topic up, but as I see it she only brought it up because he invited her to have a heart-to-heart about how she was while her husband was absent.

I'm not happy that the person he felt he could tell was another man's wife, particularly since she then asked him to keep the conversation private from her husband. So presumably her husband would be pissed off that she's talking about their problems to his friend, but I'm supposed to be overjoyed that he's managed to pour out his heart to another woman. The fact he waited two weeks to tell me also bothers me greatly. His response to my being annoyed was 'Well I'll know to keep my mouth shut about things in future then' - so he's basically telling me that he was right to keep this from me and he'll do so even more in future.

Would you be happy about your DH/DP talking over such intimate problems with another woman, and then keeping it from you, even if only temporarily? I really can't see that it's me being unreasonable, but perhaps I'm just not seeing clearly. After all the troubles we've had (and there have been loads!) I thought we were getting closer and sharing everything, and now I find he's keeping things from me, and thinking that he's right to do so.

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RubyLovesMayMay · 26/09/2011 11:46

Right, so he's blaming his lying on you Hmm

Well rid OP, thats if you make it a permanent split.

If you dont, this is going to set the tone for your whole relationship from now on.

He's hiding his shady behaviour behind your insecurity and will always use that as a rod for your back.

JodieHarsh · 26/09/2011 11:54

You sound very insecure and jealous tbh.

Opening up about sexual problems is painfully embarrassing for anyone, and more so for men, I suspect (I have experience of this).

If I were you I'd be grateful he had the chance to open up to someone kindly and unjudgemental who could offer some help.

FreakoidOrganisoid · 26/09/2011 11:55

"swore on his life to it while looking intently into my eyes"

That's enough to make me think he's lying on it's own I'm afraid.

Sorry OP Sad

JodieHarsh · 26/09/2011 11:55

OH NO I missed an entire page.

Sorry sorry OP. Ignore ignore.

Bah. Must check have read whole thread Blush

gillyglops · 26/09/2011 17:12

No apology necessary Jodie. You actually make a fair point - I know I do get unfairly insecure and jealous at times, and I have been guilty of picking at DP, questioning him about women he's talked to or worked with and being suspicious about what he's been up to. On his side, he's been guilty of being very insensitive at times, such as telling me that I'm no supermodel around the same time that he told me a female colleague looked stunning. I was once sitting beside him in the car when he phoned this colleague, and in the course of the conversation he asked her if she'd like him to play the male nurse and rub her thighs better after she'd done a run. I don't know whether to see that as he clearly doesn't mean anything by it or he wouldn't do it in front of me, or he has so little respect for me that he doesn't care if I hear him doing it. He would claim the former, saying it's just banter and no-one takes it seriously.

Although it really bothers me when he's this flirty way with other women, it obviously doesn't bother his male friends that he's like this with their wives. I can fully accept that my insecurities and jealousy have made him feel he can't even mention other women without a rumpus, but he has fuelled it too. It is a complete and utter mess. We're meeting tomorrow to talk things through, and I have no idea what will or should happen.

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KatieScarlett2833 · 26/09/2011 17:18

Sounds like a creep

You're well rid.

bubblegumpop · 26/09/2011 17:55

No wonder you are insecure! It's all his bloody doing. He lies to your face, swearing on your life. Flirts with other women in front of you, being sexually inappropriate.

This guy has fuelled it in you, he is toxic. Well shot. I bet you find after a year or so of rebuilding yourself, on your own. You aren't "jealous and insecure" any more.

GetAwayFromHerYouBitch · 26/09/2011 18:06

His story is very whiffy. You are right to feel distinctly pissed off about the way he relates to other women.

AnyFucker · 26/09/2011 18:50

It sounds to me you are already half way to talking yourself around again

His work will be done by the time you see him tomorrow Hmm

Really, love, you need to find the courage of your convictions

Either this shady behaviour is something you are prepared to tolerate in your life...or it isn't

RubyLovesMayMay · 27/09/2011 09:51

AnyFucker is right (as always) sounds like you're ready to take responsibilty for his shite, and love it is shite behaviour.

You keep focusing on how you're jealous and insecure and not the fact that he has been downright rude and disrespectful. And trust me, he'll do the same.

Most people are not insecure for no reason at all, if something feels amiss then it probably is, and you've given more than enough examples of it on this thread. Trust you're instincts, they're there for a reason.

windsorTides · 27/09/2011 10:33

Oh I agree! Never trust someone who says they "had" to lie to you, because you're unreasonable, paranoid, jealous or whatever.

Because that's a lie too.

The only reason he lied to you was because he didn't want you finding out about his motive for seeing his friend's wife. He likes having these little secrets from you and uses them as a means to control you.

It is hugely disrespectful to discuss your sex life with anyone incidentally.

I expect the reason none of his friends are wary about him being around their partners is because he's a joke amongst them and they know he's no proper threat at all.

Just cut your losses and dump him - he's serving no useful purpose is he?

floosiemcwoosie · 27/09/2011 11:04

makes me wonder what else he has lied about. I would think the one you catch them out on, is not the only one.

mummytime · 27/09/2011 12:14

You are not insecure/paranoid because he has been acting totally inappropriately. My husband would not be happy if a "friend" offered to massage my thighs after I'd been running. Its creepy and inappropriate.

IT ISN'T YOU ITS HIM!

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