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always has to be about HER.....

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lilolilmanchester · 18/09/2011 21:13

was going to namechange for this, but then thought, hey, if friend recognises this, then maybe it will save me a difficult conversation!!!

I am not a particularly needy friend for the most part - tho, as we all do, occasionally need a bit of support. Took my DS to uni yesterday... thought I was well prepared but actually found it very hard - not so much because he is living away, more because it's the end of an era, and our family life will never be quite the same again. Friend messaged me to ask how I was doing - and after first sentence, it was all about how hard she was going to find it when her children go to uni. I mean all about, nothing else about our DS. Her eldest won't be going for at least 5 years!!! Ok, yes, I appreciate it's hard for her to think about that - but even though it made her fret about her own fledging the nest, she had absolutely no real interest in how I'm doing at all.Pointed out that her separation was in the future, mine was right now - and it was "yeah, I know, but I still can't imagine what it's going to be like, it;s hard etc etc etc"...so found ,myself consoling her, about something which will happen years ahead (if indeed it does happen).... which is fine, she deserves friendship too, but I kind of feel for once, it could have been about me. Not asking MN any questions or for a response, but am actually quite angry about it and it's festering... so just thought if I wrote it down here, would help me either forget about it, or if I decide to discuss with her, maybe I'll have the anger out of my system!!

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lilolilmanchester · 18/09/2011 21:59

(so if said friend is a MNetter, have totally just outed myself!!!)

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lilolilmanchester · 18/09/2011 22:08

custardo - just seen your longer post - sorry- missed it earlier somehow. Spookily similar situation. But I do get positive things out of the relationship too. So guess I have to accept it as it is or do something about it ... more likely just to accept and then rant on MN!!

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ImperialBlether · 18/09/2011 22:49

I don't think she was being empathetic at all! She dragged the conversation towards herself as soon as she could. Even though it will be years before she experiences anything like this, it's worse for her now than it is for the OP. That is not empathy!

Empathy would be saying, "God how terrible, I'm worried about my child leaving home and I've just got a late period. What happened when you took him there? Did he seem happy?" And so on, with the rest of the conversation being about the OP. It can feel dreadful when a child leaves home. The OP needed someone to appreciate that and talk to her about her own feelings and about her child's feelings.

izzywhizzyletsgetbusy · 19/09/2011 04:19

I second Blether.

Your friend didn't empathise or sympathise; she took your opening statement and used it to put herself centre stage and make the conversation all about her.

Now you know her tactics, use them when she next presents you with an opportunity to empathise with her - and bang on about your feelings Grin

lilolilmanchester · 19/09/2011 09:58

izzy/blether - that was my feeling ... I wouldn't do it the other way round, it's just not me... but have appreciated everyone listening, helped get it off my chest! Thanks everyone

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Aislingorla · 19/09/2011 10:00

I know lots of people like that, sadly, not real friends. My lad started at Birmingham Uni. on Sat and I'm am meeting up with 'real' friends today and I know I 'll get support without them referring to their own situations.
People can be so self obsessed, best to avoid or do what izzy says.

Aislingorla · 19/09/2011 10:01

littlehouse, what's your DH studying?

Aislingorla · 19/09/2011 10:02

DS ,that is!!

FetchezLaVache · 19/09/2011 10:04

There's empathy through trying to find a parallel situation in one's own life, and then there's hijacking every single conversation to bring it back to Destination Me Me Me. I think your friend most decidedly crossed that particular line.

I hope your DS has a brilliant time at uni- exciting times, but very hard on you. I, however, only have 16 years until my DS is in the same situation, so it's very much worse for me than it is for you. Wink

lilolilmanchester · 19/09/2011 10:06

fetchez, I feel your pain!!

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Aislingorla · 19/09/2011 10:08

Funny! My neighbour asked a few polite questions about our DS yesterday and then said '' I'm dreading it when our DD goes'' She's 3!

mouldyironingboard · 19/09/2011 12:40

lilo, I'm sending you a sympathetic hug as my DD goes away to uni on Saturday. It won't be easy, but I keep thinking about the fantastic time that our DCs are all going to have. We have to let them go and take this next step to becoming fully independent.

As for your 'friend' - she sounds rather selfish. Leave it until you feel stronger before contacting her again.

lilolilmanchester · 20/09/2011 21:13

hi Mouldy, good luck to your DD (and to you!) Agree, it's a fantastic opportunity for them and am insanely jealous as I loved my uni days. Still hard letting them move on to this next stage of their lives tho!

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