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What would you do re CCTV?

39 replies

seriouschanger · 07/09/2011 20:23

I need to sell my house but worried ex will start attacking house again esp as he will be wound up over maint order in coming weeks. I'll never sell with it up as people will think house a target (they would be correct but not for thieves etc)

Do I remove CCTV and risk attacks?

Do I keep it and never sell (as no one will want to buy if they get a sniff of trouble).

Help!!!

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izzywhizzyletsgetbusy · 08/09/2011 01:47

He's attacked your home on numerous occasions and has even tried arson.

You've rung the police on 14 occasions in the past 2 years. What action have the police taken in respect of your ex?

BustersOfDoom · 08/09/2011 01:51

That's a shame but maybe not everyone can afford the bigger nicer house with no chain? There could be lots of reasons why it didn't sell for 12 months and yours might just be the right house for someone. Positive thoughts, onwards and upwards!!

seriouschanger · 08/09/2011 01:56

Izzy police have just put another marker on house grade 1? Whatever that is? Otherwise they can not do nothing as I need to catch the 'person' in the act and guess what...yep! No attacks since CCTV!!!

Keep those positive thoughts for me Buster as I am wary!

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izzywhizzyletsgetbusy · 08/09/2011 02:34

Sending waves of positive thoughts to you but realistically, even if you get an offer tomorrow, you're not going to be moving for some time to come and, in the meantime, ex's nuts will shortly be in wringer over money and who knows what his thoughts will turn to.

I trust that when the shit hits the fan you'll be taking every precaution when you and ds are out and about - and out of sight of cctv.

Is there anyway your cctv camera can be made less obvious to lure the cowardly turd into a false sense of security, IYSWIM?

seriouschanger · 08/09/2011 10:38

that is a brilliant idea about the camera Izzy thank you. I wonder if I can take it down?

Yep starting to get worried about 'out of cctv range'
I'm sure I will get lots of more tips here nearer the time as will be stressed and hogging the board in blind panic.

I usually don't sleep for 10 nights on a row and on guard all night! Bit of bad timing with school now back as have to be ok to drive it should have happened beginning of summer hols and didnt mind not sleeping then as not driving so much. It has taken ages

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izzywhizzyletsgetbusy · 08/09/2011 15:53

Without knowing whether your house is in the middle of a terrace, semi, etc it's difficult to advise on security. Can anyone gain access from the rear or side of the house? If so, you should consider installing more than one cctv camera and pir outdoor lighting.

I have a cctv camera discreetly set up in an upstairs bedroom overlooking my front garden and the main door to my house. The camera is not visible to the casual observer.

What range is your camera covering? If it's only covering the front path to your door, can it be redirected so that you have an idea whether the turd walks past your home on the opposite side of the road or if he drives past on a regular basis?

As for when you are out of sight of cctv, I would suggest you have another word with your local police and make sure your mobile is within easy reach at all times with 999 preset ready to go at the touch of a button.

Invest in a personal hand held alarm and wear it on your wrist - the ear splitting shrieks they make could buy you time.

I also advise you to look at self-defence courses. Some are structured specifically for women, and you will have the skills to be able to withstand physical attack and defend yourself after a very few sessions.

Instead of spending sleepless nights worrying yourself sick, get proactive and lure the cowardly bastard into the open where you can get him bang to rights.

seriouschanger · 08/09/2011 20:12

Izzy

My house is detached and end of street to left two fields that have hedge and trees around and dips down so cant see accross the second large field. The house next door is empty and still for sale....house opposite they dont use their front room and blinds always drawn and elderly couple on end next to them they never look like they are their much?

The cctv is angled on right side of house below my bedroom window and clearly shows porch area outside frontdoor and brick pillar and some of drive a little bit of the field very small is in their. It doesnt show opposite path to front door as on angle to ensure that if front door kicked person clearly seen.

I have ordered personal attack alarms now thanks as old ones I checked not working.

I can actually see the person who walks past on opposite better as their is a roof over front door so blokes and cuts off heads of people walking my side of road (only in video not in real life LOL).

I am going to get some quotes of taking cctv down and putting it inside to lure him as he will be be spitting fire when he is served and once served if fails to attend he will be arrested and charged. He will go beserk...but will he come near as thinks CCTV will still be up...or will he be to angry to resist and then attack,

He nearly opened front door last time as the 5 locks pop open when one pushed up...but I have now double locks on inside and alarms that go off if some even taps the front door...poor postie and charity man nearly died with the piercing alarm lol.

Right great plan...will leave this thread up for another day then get it removed as really paranoid ex is on here or even in my computer...can hack anything from phones/computers etc....I realise now that my yahoo accounts would always ask me to redo my account is because someone was trying to break the password into my emails...but this stopped 4 yrs ago.

His car has changed 3 times...I think he has picked up hire cars when he visits the country.

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izzywhizzyletsgetbusy · 08/09/2011 20:36

As it seems likely that he's already clocked the front of your house and seen the cctv, removing it might not be the best plan.

From what you've said, he's going to be driven into a frenzy very soon. If the back of your house is vulnerable (i.e can be accessed over a hedge/wall or from the empty house next door etc) that's the way he'll try to come at you.

I suggest you install another cctv camera inside in an upstairs room overlooking your garden/back door and - if you haven't got them already - pir security lights that can be seen from outer space at the rear of the house.

Do you have friends who can take it in turns to stay over with you during the crucial time?

seriouschanger · 08/09/2011 21:55

Hi Izzy

Got CCTV around back and I am sure he has clocked that too...ex knows I have a very strong stable door to back and to get to patio doors he will be caught on camera...I have alarm on those doors too if they are lightly tapped piecing alarm:)

Sadly I dont have any RL friends as been 5yrs Home Ed ds which was very isolating...my only friends are now contacts from this site...I have made one friend with another mum at ds school he has attended 8 weeks in total...but if she got a sniff of the troubles I have had she would be gone...it is packed lunches our most serious conversations LOL!

Ex knows I aint got a soul to turn too and Victim Support manager told me that is why he targets me as most easy target for him to take his anger and frustrations out on...one MN told me to get a 6'6 Hells Angel....that would make him poop his pants HAHAA!

But sadly no so big big risk and worry all this. I would love to lure him in to get him banged to rights but sadly I feel I can't risk this as I have a disabled child who 1 is then at risk and 2 has to go into care if anything bad happens to his mum through revengeful arson etc...police have not taken this at all seriously....I feel very very let down by a governing body that should protect it's most at risk:(

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BustersOfDoom · 08/09/2011 23:03

Rather than selling up immediately could you let your house and rent yourself in another part of the city? That could possibly get you away more quickly than having to sell.

izzywhizzyletsgetbusy · 09/09/2011 01:37

I wasn't proposing to lure him 'in' as much as lure him 'onto' your property where he can be taken care of by the police as, presumably, he can have no good reason for coming anywhere near your home?

From what you've said, it seems he comes and goes to and from the UK. Do you have any way of knowing when he's in this country at any given time?

seriouschanger · 09/09/2011 08:00

Buster identical house to mine has been up for sale and rent on same street for 9 months it is still empty...I could not rent and pay mortgage at same time iygwim for months on end.

Izzy wish I had the guts and believe me if it was summer hols I would have done it as could afford not to sleep...I am kicking myself as cctv man said I could have put it in my bedroom window doh! But I know ex would be lured to do something...trouble is what next and by the aggro this will cause him...as up to know minor things ie Xmas card he tried to break in at 4-5am with screwdriver, bent metal plate arson team screwed to inner letterbox and knocked outer letterbox off. What would this deadly psycho do when really rattled??
I asked police to check if he was over as would have to buy a ticket/register for boat (doesnt need a passport for the boat though). Police said it was against ex's human rights to even check...what about mine and ds human rights?
With luring him Izzy....one police officer told me it was NOT illegal for ex to stand in my garden and stare in my window...it is only illegal if ex damages something/someone...crazy crazy crazy this legal system all for the attacker not the victims!

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Bogeyface · 09/09/2011 11:16

Surely the anti stalking laws should protect you? Sounds like the police need a kick up the arse to me!

seriouschanger · 09/09/2011 13:08

The community pc told me this wouldn't count as stalking....plus I have no witnesses to the actual damage being done...Izzy is right lure him in...dare I?

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