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Alcoholic husband - help

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Puffykins · 24/08/2011 21:40

My husband, whom I love, is an alcoholic. When we got together he was sober/ in recovery, though of course he told me about his problems. Perhaps naively, I thought that they were in the past. We got married. I got pregnant. He started drinking again. And stopped again. And started again. And stopped again. And started again. Etc. The bouts usually last around six weeks to two months.

He's neither violent nor abusive when drunk. "I'm not a bad drunk," he'll claim. But he's a different person. I can tell, immediately, when he's been drinking - even after one beer. His speech slurs. His eyes go funny. And he becomes repetitive, confused, argumentative, defensive, and not at all amusing. He's also a non-functioning alcoholic, so, towards the end of the bout, he starts drinking all day, every day. I'd come home from work to find him passed out on the sofa, time and time again. Since having DS (now 13 months) I've been working from home - I thought that if I was here, he wouldn't be able to drink. But he can. He hides it from me. Bottles under the bath etc. And denies it and denies it until I think I'm going mad, before finally he breaks down and confesses what I knew all along.
And then we'll get through three/ four/ five/ six months of blissful happiness, when he's not drinking, and we're happy, and I'm lulled into a false sense of security about its never happening again. Or at least, not for a while.
But it's just started again. And I don't know what to do. It terrifies me, on a number of levels:
1.) He's freelance, but if he screws up, the same company aren't going to hire him again, and word will get around, and he won't earn anything, which means that I will have to manage everything.
2.) It's really bad for his health. All three alcoholics I have known of have died young, in their forties/ fifties. I love him. I don't want him to die.
3.) While I say I love him, I don't like him when he's drinking. He's no company. And it screws up my life - I'm unable to make plans, i.e. invite people around, because I don't know what state he's going to be in. I can't ever go and do what I'd planned to do in the evening, because I won't leave him alone with DS. Which means that I'm home, all day, alone (DS adorable but not a great conversationalist, yet) and have nothing to look forward to but a drunk,messy, argumentative husband appearing at some point and passing out.
I always vowed that I wouldn't bring my children up in an alcoholic household. But I love my husband. And I don't want to be a single parent. I don't think that I can afford to be a single parent.

DH has been to AA (which he hates), had cognitive behavior therapy (which he dissed), had a session of hypnotherapy, etc. etc. I no longer drink myself, ever. There's no alcohol in the house (at least, none that I've put here.) I been angry, I've been understanding, I've cried, I've laughed, I've ignored him. I don't know what else to do. Nothing seems to work. DS is still too young to be aware of what's going on, but in the future?

I don't know what to do.

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didyouseewhatshedid · 25/08/2011 21:34

OP. I can totally see where you are coming from. This situation is far from black and white. Who knows, he might stop drinking. He might stop drinking for good. Not every alcoholic has to reach a 'rock bottom' and not every alcoholic is as doomed as 'experts' above seem to make out. Reading between the lines, your partner sounds like a good person with an addictive personality. As poorlybear said, you will get much more impartial and less directive advice elsewhere on MN than that so far offered on this thread.
Oh, and btw, alcoholism isn't a disease.

Fairenuff · 25/08/2011 22:45

DH has been to AA (which he hates), had cognitive behavior therapy (which he dissed)

Has he experienced any treatment which he believes to have helped him? What does he use to stop himself drinking for the weeks when he is sober? 4 - 6 weeks is quite alone time to stay sober for an alcoholic, how does he manage to do that? Has he considered/used antabuse?

If he does not take his alcoholism seriously he will continue to repeat the patterns that you are seeing.

It is totally your decision what you are prepared to live with of course and until your son is old enough to leave home he will also live with your decision. I think the reason most people say leave is because whilst it's an incredibly difficult thing to do, the alternative is even more difficult - living with a non-functioning alcholic for years and years.

Fairenuff · 25/08/2011 22:46

^^ quite a long time

confidence · 25/08/2011 23:07

God how sad. It sounds like you really love him and when he's not drinking, things are great.

I can think of one way to approach it outside of the black-and-white "leave him, or stay and put up with it" dichotomy.

That is that you make arrangements for yourself and DC to live separately - maybe quite temporary arrangements such as renting a flat for a few years - but make it clear to DH that you are NOT terminating your relationship with him. You still love him, you're still "with" him, you're still intimate with him, he's still the father of your child. Simply explain that on a practical and child protection level, you are not prepared to bring up DC under the care of an alcoholic. If you think about it this makes sense: your problems are more with the practical issues of how incapable it makes him, than with judgment of him as a person. Just explain to him all the reasons you're explained here why it's impossible.

This is probably not a long term solution. But it may be what's needed to make him bite the bullet and really kick it, while knowing that you do still love him. It might be objected that it's not fair on you, having to live a kind of "half in / half out" married life like that. But the point there is that there's nothing to stop you, later, pulling the plug completely and saying, "OK, now it really IS over". If he just gets worse or makes no effort to improve, if you eventually fall out of love with him, if he gets more erratic and untrustworthy and is just a liability as a father, then you leave emotionally as well. In fact it will be easier to do that having already set up an independent living structure.

Just a thought, FWIW.

didyouseewhatshedid · 26/08/2011 09:34

great post, confidence

poorlybear · 26/08/2011 10:01

OP earlier this year, I discussed with my dh what confidence is suggesting, that for me seemed to be a happy solution. I told him I loved him but that I could no longer live with the day to day problems. It was a kind and loving discussion, and I made clear that we could all be a unit I just did not want the domestic hassle. For us I think that was a turning point and he went to AA, was sober for five months. Yes he has had a one day blip but I am so impressed that he was sober for five months.

It is his battle with the booze though.

solidgoldbrass · 26/08/2011 10:38

Do bear in mind that AA is Not a miracle cure. Nothing is. THe only thing that will stop an alcoholic drinking is the alcoholic deciding to stop.
You can't make your H stop drinking. The only thing you can do is decide when you have had enough of living with a drunk.

Puffykins · 26/08/2011 21:17

Thank you so much Confidence, that is a really helpful post and I had not thought of that. It is an excellent idea, and one that I shall very definitely look into.
Thank you again, to all of you, for your help and understanding. I appreciate it enormously.
Puffykins xxxx.

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