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Had an awful night with DP (sudden aggression/intimidation)

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AFieldOfPaperFlowers · 19/07/2011 22:43

Been with DP 3 years, lived together for the past year. He's never been aggressive towards me but has shouted during arguments etc (but don't we all) and I noticed he is an aggressive driver but thats not directed at me. Anyway I have noticed he gets a little more aggressive after a drink but as he doesn't drink much it was never really an issue but for the past few months he's gradually started drinking more and more. Last night he came home with a big crate of lagers that he said were on offer. He opened one as soon as he got home and drank it within 10 mniutes and opened another. He offered to me to help myself but I said it was too early for me and I'd join him with a drink later.

About an hour later I went for a shower and by the time I got out he'd drank 6 cans altogether and his mood had totally changed, he didn't speak to me as I entered the living room or even look at me. I sat down next to him and snuggled upto him as usual. He didn't react or put his arm around me or anything. I asked if he fancied watching a movie with me and he said "who's Dave?" Confused so I said "Dave who??" and he snapped "well how many fucking daves are there??" so I sat up and said "do you mean dave from work?" and he said "I dont know, whichever dave keeps texting you". I realised then that he'd been through my phone while I was in the shower and the texts from this dave were all work related apart from one which was regarding a work night out which he'd sent to a few people. I said "He's just someone I work with" so he said "and how often do you see him out of work?" so I said "never" so he shouted in my face "dont fucking lie to me, ive seen the texts". I stood up and went into the kitchen to get a glass of milk (and to get away from him) and he followed me and put his arms at either side of me so I was between him and the work surface and then said again in my face "how often do you see him out of work". I tried to gently move his arm away so I could leave but he wouldn't move and so I said "look, if you just talk to me properly instead of shouting I'll go through it all with you" so he shouted that I couldn't even look him in the eye and so I said that was because he was intimidating me and I wanted to leave the kitchen. He eventually moved but refused to speak to me for the rest of the night whilst repeating "don't think you've got away with it" etc.

I dont know how to deal with this. we've hardly spoken today but that is a side to him I've not seen before and I dont like it Sad

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ImperialBlether · 20/07/2011 13:34

And every day in the news there's a piece on another woman murdered by a jealous partner or ex.

Does anyone else worry about whether those women have been on here asking for help?

Not suggesting you're in this situation, OP, it's just a general comment.

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AnyFucker · 20/07/2011 14:03

yes, I do worry about that IB

by the time women come on here to ask for help and advice, their domestic situation is pretty bad, I think

I reckon they also under report how bad their partners are, because they wrongly feel they may be painting an unfair picture of him

how many OP's actually back track and convince themselves that he isn't so bad after all, when faced with a barrage of "You must leave him, he is an abuser"

it takes a lot to admit you so spectacularly fucked up by getting involved with an abusive man, and the default positon is to go away, lick your wounds and hope it will get better

it almost invariably doesn't Sad

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ImperialBlether · 20/07/2011 14:33

And of course the men aren't that stupid. If they were vile constantly, it would be much easier for the woman to leave them. The consequences of leaving must seem appalling at times, too, when it means losing your home etc and I can see that if he comes home and appears normal for an hour that might be enough to change your mind. Until the next time, of course.

My problem is that I'm divorced and have spent so long reading the Relationships thread, I really doubt whether I'll ever meet someone normal.

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mumsamilitant · 20/07/2011 14:48

WOAH!!!! Blimey all you mumsnetters!!!! What on earth fuelled all that! no wonder the poor woman didnt come back! Think you lot need to take a chill pill and stop getting carried away!!! read it all back and read the OP's message!!!!! This is a forum not bloody East Enders!

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RabbitPie · 20/07/2011 15:07

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mumsamilitant · 20/07/2011 15:15

Lets look at it again shall we?

Ok, he checked her phone - how many others have admitted to doing this on here, when suspicious??????

Maybe she gets quite a lot of texts from Dave at work.

NO, he didnt hit her and hasnt ever done so in 3 years, he blocked her way!

She hasnt mentioned his drinking previously to this. So I see this as him getting a bit sozzled because of the Dave thing!

I certainly dont see it all all you have, thats for sure.

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mumsamilitant · 20/07/2011 15:15

soz, meant to say.... I certainly dont see it as you have.....

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RabbitPie · 20/07/2011 15:26

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mumsamilitant · 20/07/2011 15:30

Maybe the way to go with it would have been to tell her to just watch out for a pattern emerging. You lot totally fed off each other and it seemed to me (i may be wrong) carried on justifying the fact that she left!!!!!!

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FuzzpigFourFiveSix · 20/07/2011 15:33

Get the fuck out. It will get worse

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mumsamilitant · 20/07/2011 15:35

Surely this is supposed to be a "helpful" forum. Do you think, putting his behaviour aside, you helped her or ranted on about yourselves?

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Change99 · 20/07/2011 15:56

The more I read here on Mumsnet the more conclusive it becomes that there are some seriously bitter and twisted people here who think nothing of imposing their ludicrous beliefs on others. What do they gain from it I wonder ?

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mumsamilitant · 20/07/2011 16:12

Yes Change, Im of the same feeling. Sad though huh.

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pictish · 20/07/2011 16:16

Change 99 - some of us have lived through abusive relationships, and some of know all too well how it all begins. Some of us want to give fair warning to others. Some of us are anything but bitter and twisted. Some of us are survivors of abuse.
Twat.

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SpringchickenGoldBrass · 20/07/2011 16:37

There's not nearly enough encouragement of women to get rid of crap men. Dumping partners who are violent, lazy, selfish, addicted or unreasonable is a good thing to do, and should happen much more often than it does.

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jasper · 20/07/2011 17:30

it takes a lot to admit you so spectacularly fucked up by getting involved with an abusive man, and the default positon is to go away, lick your wounds and hope it will get better

what an excellent summary of these situations Anyfucker. so true.

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ImperialBlether · 20/07/2011 17:44

It's very sad to think that women can read the OP and think nothing of it. It makes me wonder what the hell they put up with in their own lives, that someone behaving like that isn't worth worrying about.

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AnyFucker · 20/07/2011 18:25

not you again change Hmm

really, you need to take your apologies for intimidation and the shit treatment of women somewhere else

for a "counsellor" you have some twisted views of what a woman should be expected to tolerate

mumsamilitant do you think this woman should be "helped" to stay with a man who treats her like this ? I will not condone it, even if some of you are happy to

it seriously makes me wonder what shit men you have at home, not the women who stand up and say "you don't have to put up with that"

you two are apologists for male entitlement to rule by fear (fear of violence, fear of being left (omg !) ...single)...scary stuff and certainly your attitudes help to make women feel they have to stay and try to "change" him (which invariably ends in disaster, for her)

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LaCidrai · 20/07/2011 19:19

Pictish, Stella is renowned for causing mood changes, I think it has the nick name 'wife beater'.

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pictish · 20/07/2011 19:24

Who gives a fuck?

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pictish · 20/07/2011 19:26

You actually, in your ignorance, believe this episode may have been caused by choosing Stella over Carlsberg??!!

Grow up.

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BadTasteFlump · 20/07/2011 19:26

Sorry but that is total and utter bull shit LaCidrai. I know plenty of men who have got completely pissed on Stella on many occasions. Not one of them have been 'changed' into a 'wife beater'.

Can't even begin to go into how many reasons it's bollocks Hmm

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AnyFucker · 20/07/2011 19:28

I like the odd Stella Artois or three

it is a tasty lager with minimal gas, refreshing when ice-cold on a hot day with ya bbq burger

I can categorically say, it never turned me into a violent twat

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noddyholder · 20/07/2011 19:29

Listen to everyone. One of my closest friends is in virtually identical relationship atm although they have only known each other 6 months and she has a little dd in the middle of it. I am very worried but powerless. I wish she would come on here and get this sort of advice because you like her are in danger

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