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41 replies

Marielle80 · 10/07/2011 13:47

Hi
I have not posted before but read regularly I am not a troll etc. I am living overseas and am really desperate for some help / moral support. We were living in Lincolnshire until this year, now living near DHs parents (retired expats whom have never really approved of me). I was a SAHM and really happy back home near my family. I basically did everything for the DCs right from the word go, whilst DH did next to nothing (despite a lot of requests)and basically got away with it for years. DCs were never close to DH and his family extremely close to my family etc.

We moved closer to DHs family for financial reasons. As soon as we arrived in the village, it was as though DH transformed into some kind of psycho in an instant and became a mouthpiece for his disapproving family. He started accusing me of being responsible for everything he considers to be wrong in our lives and keeps saying that I have failed as a parent because (variously) I never went back to work/ never let him smack the DCs/ breastfed/ stuck to routines for meals and bedtimes/ encouraged the DCs educationally. He says my bad parenting is entirely to blame for DC2s behavioural issues even though all I ever did was seek out information, resources and help and loads of people back home thought otherwise. I could go on.

He told the Dcs that my educational input has been worthless as I have failed to educate them in the school of life. As a result, the DCs have been shunning me and resisting even a 15 min reading session. for the first time ever, they are openly saying that they "hate" me and do not want to go out with me. They try to push me away when we go out as a family saying that they only want DH. DH is really milking it and taking them out for hours at a time without even asking me or telling me where they are going. This can happen several times a day. It has got to the point that as soon as I make a phonecall back home, I see him getting their shoes ready and ushering them out. His mother has been dropping massive hints that she does not want me around saying things like "let her go wherever she likes if she can`t cope living in our village, we shall look after the DCs here and there are always the school holidays for her to come and visit".

Yesterday DH says that his feeling towards me are ambivalent and that he stopped caring as soon as I reported him for small-scale DV a few years ago. This being despite the fact that he was completely in the wrong and I had him taken off the hook by withdrawing the allegation. He said that he only stayed for the DCs even though he would not even get off his backside to take them anywhere, teach them anything or even interact with thjem.

I am just so desperately sad and spend more and more of the day crying in an empty home to which I do not even have the key not knowing what he is doing with my precious children (and their minds) and wondering if they really hate me all of a sudden (and if so, why) and whether they will come round or i will end up being driven out by myself.

I want to take them back home but he has pushed all sorts of forms under my nose to sign in a foreign language to strengthen their residency here (even though they are British and we have not been here that long). Also, I no longer have a house (my parents cannot keep us for other reasons, I could rent i suppose. I am worried he would somehow remove them from the UK unless there was something I could do to prevent this; he has behaved terribly towards them for a while prior to adopting this Mr Nice Guy act.

I cant believe that this is happening to me. I am so much more effective as a parent than he is, yet he is discrediting me on every score. I dont know what to do with myself. There is no guarantee that he will drop his act or they will see through it. And he has so many people who would support him here regardless of his incompetence.

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RandomMess · 10/07/2011 14:41

In the UK you could have a prohibitive steps order to prevent him removing them from the UK and ensure you gain residency etc.

vintageteacups · 10/07/2011 14:48

You do not need to be feeling worthless- he's emotionally abusing to the effect that you think this is your fault. It's not; it's his.

He sounds like he's living in the dark ages.

When you book tickets, make sure there's no way, there'll post/phone you at home or he may realise what you're up to. To be honest, if you're in mainland Europe, I'd take the money and get a taxi to the train station and if possible, get trains back. Then you don't need to worry about flights and it's less easy for him to track your movements or go after you to the airport etc.

I know it seems really daunting but all you need to worry about ius getting back to the UK with your 3 passports.

rubycon · 10/07/2011 18:42

if you have any legal queries - you can ask on here and get free help

www.swarb.co.uk/phpbb/

neuroticmumof3 · 10/07/2011 19:45

Oh Marielle, I really feel for you, what a horrible position to be in. You are being emotionally abused, coerced into being very isolated and vulnerable, being undermined as a mother. I believe you are at risk of the abuse escalating, possibly into physical abuse. You mentioned previous DV, was he physically abusive towards you? I would recommend you get legal advice as quickly as possible. This man and his family are trying to wreck your relationship with DC and that needs stopping as soon as possible. They have all the power and control at the moment. Finding out about your rights to bring DC back to UK with you gives you some power back and the knowledge you need to start making decisions. You can probably tell I think it's best to remove yourself and DC as quickly as possible. Regarding his corporal punishment of the children, does it leave marks on them? That's the dividing line in UK between 'acceptable' punishment and abuse. If you came back to UK you could apply to any local authority as you would be homeless due to domestic violence.

kayah · 10/07/2011 19:51

You were right not signing anything for the change of their status.

What do you mean he won't let you go?

Does he keep passports hidden from you?

Have yo ugot no access to any funds?

HerHissyness · 10/07/2011 19:56

Have been in similar situation.

Although I didn't have ILs and I didn't have him telling me I was a crap parent, even HE knew he couldnt' carry that one off! Grin

My X was the from Day to Night transformation too - so noticeable I actually asked him if he was showing off cos we had guests Grin

Just get yourself HOME. If there is somewhere to stay until September, that is plenty of time. You'll get a place organised in that amount of time. You can get a lot more help and support when you are back here.

Come home love, you know it's the only thing to do. the rest we'll help you work through it!

I'm home, he came back eventually too, and yes it was a total disaster and he has gone back. I am now free. I'm getting better and stronger every day!

Fairenuff · 10/07/2011 21:04

Please do not for one moment think you are a bad parent. You have done all the right things imo in raising them.

You are in a terrible situation being controlled by an abusive man. The main thing is to get the DCs and yourself back to the UK. When is he going away? If it's soon I would advise you to carry on as normal, act as if you're resigned to staying there and when he's gone, leave as soon as you have the opportunity. Don't even bother with packing in case the PIL's find out.

In the meantime, find out what you can about getting help, but try not to leave clues which can be discovered before you escape, like computer history.

If you can, keep posting here for support. You are a great mum, doing the best you can in horrible circumstances. Your DCs will no doubt thank you for it in the long run.

Marielle80 · 11/07/2011 11:46

Thanks for the support - today he was mentioning something about getting social security cards made up for the DCs to his mother. I asked him about it later and he said that it was just in case they need medicines etc - However, he never mentioned anything about having one made up for me and he knows we all have EHICs

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vintageteacups · 11/07/2011 12:45

Hi Marielle80 - can you tell us what country you're in- there may be someone here who can help you if they live there too.

SilverSky · 11/07/2011 18:54

I think sod waiting too long to escape ! Start planning now and as soon as you can bloody run.

HerHissyness · 11/07/2011 18:55

This IS a worrying development marielle, please get out asap

vintageteacups · 11/07/2011 18:59

I honestly think it sounds like he's planning to take them elsewhere without you.

SilverSky · 12/07/2011 11:55

My thoughts too vin! why is he involving his mother??

vintageteacups · 12/07/2011 12:32

I they go to school, can you not just collect them from there and go then?

SilverSky · 12/07/2011 12:35

Seriously, make a plan today and get going as soon ad you can. I fear the longer you leave it the tougher it will be and probably near on impossible to escape.

kayah · 12/07/2011 16:14

In moct cases you can freely travel between cpountries within EUrope providing you have passport.

try to take a couple of different detours , so not to fly from the nearest airport.

GO light, so noone in the street knows you are tryoing to escape.

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