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DD has said she doesn't love her father

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tammybear · 02/06/2011 12:02

Hi all, I use to post a lot a few years ago, particularly with issues with my ex. A bit of background is my DD is 8 years old, I split up with her father when she was 8 months old. He lives 3 hours drive away, doesn't drive, doesn't work, lives with parents, and doesn't call/email/visit DD. He only visits her when his parents drive him down, which is every 3/4 months, and I take her up there for one weekend a year.

DD has been finding her relationship with her father very difficult over the last few years. She's not happy with his lack of interest in her life and lack of contact. When she knows he is coming, she gets very nervous. She now says she doesn't want to see him unless his sister comes down as she gets on really well with her. His sister makes a great deal of effort with DD, and tbh if it wasn't for his sister, I wouldn't take DD up there for a weekend.

So this weekend, DD is going up there for the weekend. Usually she stays with ex and his parents, but this time she has said she wants to stay with her aunt. I completely understand why she feels this way, and his sister has agreed, and is thrilled by this and really looking forward to it and has plans of baking with her etc. DD is very excited. I know ex's parents are a bit upset by this, which I knew they would be, as they would have really loved DD staying with them. However, DD's not happy about it, so I have told her she can do whatever she wants to do that will make her happy. I've also have told her if she doesn't want to go, she doesn't have to. She has told me if his sister wasn't there, she wouldn't go at all.

But last night, DD wanted to talk to me about ex. She said she feels that she doesn't love him, and doesn't see him as her dad. She sees my DP as her dad, who I've been with 3.5 years, and they are extremely close, particularly since DD has noticed that ex doesn't make any effort with her, she has become very clingy and reliant on DP. DP loves DD as if she was his own, and I'm thankful that she has a strong male figure in her life.

DD was also saying she only wants to see her aunt on the Saturday and the rest of the family on Sunday. I'm sure she'll change her mind when the time comes, but I spoke to her aunt and told her about it so she knows and is aware of how DD is feeling. Luckily, she is very understanding and her main priority is to do whatever makes DD happy. Thank god I have someone I can rely on.

DD is also suppose to go on holiday with them for a week during the summer holidays. At the time of deciding this, DD was very much looking forward to it. However, just the same as when she goes to visit them, she always wants me and DP nearby in case she needs us. So we are staying about 20mins away from where they'll be staying during the holiday. I'm waiting til nearer the time to see how DD feels, but at the moment, I do think that DD will be staying with us, and then we'll meet up with them during the day. A week is a long time for her to be away from me, she very rarely is away from me so long, and so I think, with everything that she is feeling now as well, she wouldn't be overly comfortable with staying with them. Her aunt will be there as well, otherwise I wouldn't do it at all.

I just feel very helpless, I wish I could make things better for DD. I do feel one day she will just give up on him altogether and not want to see him anymore, as she had already threatened him with this when she was 6 to try and make him see her more, but obviously didn't work. And she was young, so I knew she wouldn't really want to not see him at the time, but as she gets older, I know that will probably change. She has always been a lot more mature than her age.

I wish I knew someone that was local to us that had a similar situation so DD could share this with someone around her age and not feel so alone. All her friends have their families still together, and her friends find it strange how she has ex and DP, and have said they don't think ex can be her a real father, because obviously their parents are all married and together still. She does have me though, my dad left when I was young and didn't bother with us either, so she knows I have been through the same thing and I think that comforts her in some ways. I just honestly don't know what to do anymore, other than be there for her and to listen to her worries and make sure I can do whatever I can to make her comfortable.

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Anniegetyourgun · 02/06/2011 13:11

Do you feel as if your DD ought to love her father? Because he doesn't seem to give her much reason. It's sad, but it's more sad for him than for her, because he will lose a daughter whereas she is not losing out on having a Daddy (well done your DP). It's a good thing her aunt cares so she won't be cut off from one side of her genetic heritage, as it were.

tammybear · 02/06/2011 14:09

No, I don't think she should, unless he was actually making effort with her, but he doesn't. He doesn't deserve to be called a father, let alone have a daughter like DD. I know this is his fault, and if DD ever chose to stop seeing him, he would blame it on me and DP. But I know if DD did stop seeing him, she would want to continue to see her aunt and grandparents, which says enough, and I am grateful that at least they make an effort with DD and that she gets on well with them.

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atswimtwolengths · 02/06/2011 14:25

Does she call your DP 'dad'? Are you two in a permanent relationship?

I can see why she wouldn't want to go and see him - it must feel like he's a stranger. Why can't he call her or email her for god's sake?

In a way it doesn't matter what your ex thinks, does it? He's had plenty of time to become close to her and he's just not doing it.

I feel so sorry for her. I'm sorry for her grandparents too - are they OK with her? Do they contact her at any other time?

tammybear · 02/06/2011 18:54

No, but she has considered doing this. A few years ago she wanted to start calling him dad, but I think she felt she would get confused when talking about DP and ex. She has said she wants to definitely start when me and DP get married as she thinks it makes more sense when DP becomes her official step-dad. It is a permanent relationship, both very happy together.

We did have an agreement that he called every Friday night (something his mum made him do) but he stopped doing that. And then he would email her the odd time, but that's stopped as well. It's not like he's doing anything to be so busy!

The grandparents don't contact her really other than seeing her. Her grandfather pays for her swimming lessons (something ex should be doing!). I feel they don't always know how to be around DD, but that could also be partly down to the situation as well. They do get on well with her when they see her though. They know the situation and feel that DD spending time with them, like going to theirs or going on the holiday will help, and they know how useless ex is as well, although I don't think they realise quite to the extent as to how much he is upsetting DD. I think they kind of have the impression that she is a child and doesn't really know how she feels.

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