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A Story of No Contact With Sibs

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piranhamorgana · 31/05/2011 21:23

I didn't want to Hi-Jack the other thread with a huge post.
Twelve years ago,as an adult who had just completed six years of therapy,to try and make sense of my car crash life,I moved to a distant location with my dc,leaving my p's and b's in our suburban hometown.

Shortly afterwards,both b's got jobs away.My p's then - astoundingly,to me then - upped and moved 370-odd miles to a house three tiny streets away from me,in my new little rural life."because they missed my dc".

They began dropping in at any time.Every day.They joined every local thing going and became a loved and respected part of the tiny,insular community . Everyone thought me so lucky.It felt like hell to me,and I felt confused and guilty.

Then my youngest b returned from abroad and bought a house in the next street.He met and married a local woman.My middle b moved in with them as a lodger.They set up a business together and became members of the local Order of Buffalo's (or whatever).Younger b and sil had triplets - boys .(M dropped my dd's like a ton of bricks)
My 2nd marriage broke down and they all saw fit to instruct me as to how to conduct my life thereafter - regular critical phone calls,lectures at gatherings,rumour,gossip.And I was told that my "rabble" of 4 dc's ,were too unruly to attend further gatherings at b and sil's house .And that it was indecent of me to do anything other than stay at home and be a good mother - ie,I should give up work,refrain from social outings and certainly not date.When I did not do this,I was ignored.

Unsurprisingly,this was the time when I met now xp.A big abusive N.

To cut it short,following an uninvited visit during which all this was again shrieked at me by m,whilst singing the praises of sil,I wrote letter to my p's stating how unhappy I was,and how I felt they were all behaving unsupportively.

They all blanked me from that day on.
My p's and I were "reconciled" by abusive xp a year later.I now regret this.

I moved my dc and myself to a bigger town an hour away.

Through MN,I realise that they are all very NPD-like in their behaviour.
I have learnt to go "hmmm" or to ignore my p's and see them as little as possible.My B's tell my p's that they are deeply sad not to see my dc.and regularly attempt to contact/see them through my p's,but without me.

They have never acknowledged dc5,but send cards and gifts to all my dc via my p's.This of course,is a cue for m to urge me to write to them etc,or to cry about how sad it is.My b told my xh that I would have to apologise to him and sil "on my knees for a week" for writing the letter before he would consider telephone contact with me.

I do not intend to have any contact with my b's,ever again.I feel very sad - for the relationship I thought I had with my b's.The one I wanted.I am sad that my dc don't have a relationship with their cousins.Family gatherings happen without us.My p's have written their will so that all three of us must sign for probate at the same time.Control from beyond the grave!

But the hardest bit is the aggravation provided by m as she pretends everyone is one big happy family,or that I am the thorn in everyone's side,depending what fits whatever rubbish she is spouting at the time.They are currently all away together on a big all inclusive holiday - m invited my dc to go,but asked them not to tell me.She then flatly denied this,in front of dd,when I asked about it.

One day ny p's will die and then I will have no family outside me and my dc.Fine.Smile

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Doha · 31/05/2011 21:36

I have followed/lurked on most of your posts and you certainly have not had it easy. I am full of admiration for how far you have come...
I feel sorry for your family because they don't see the real you and l feel having you and your Dc's in their lives would enhance it greatly.
However you have your MN family and l am proud to be part of that.Wine
PS your daughter (on the other thread) is lovely anada very talented Smile

piranhamorgana · 31/05/2011 21:42

Doha Wine Smile

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prettyfly1 · 31/05/2011 22:17

Well done for keeping your sanity and sense of self through all that. Ultimately it is they missing out and you will find happiness and security. Havent read your other threads but totally sympathetic to what it sounds like you are experiencing and wishing you every happiness in the future!!

ShoutyHamster · 01/06/2011 14:18

I've read your threads too.

They sound an absolute bunch of arseholes, to be frank. Your mother probably the worst of all. Have you ever considered cutting contact with her? It sounds like you get nothing from the relationship at all - the opposite in fact. She's teaching your children conflict, spite, guilt-tripping... They'd be better off without her in their lives as well as your nasty pair of brothers, surely? You're not in the same location any more - a completely fresh start??

Easier said then done, of course - but they aren't family, are they? Family is what you make it, family is defined by love more than anything.

Next time she starts spouting the rubbish, why not tell her to fuck off? Those very words.

'Take your spite and your stirring and your nasty little personality and just get out of our lives. And tell your two nasty shit-stirring sons to stop trying to contact my children, too - it's not as if they have any genuine love or regard for them.'

Oh and the will Grin. I'm afraid my reply to that would have been 'Oh dear, then probate isn't going to get granted, is it? Now that is going to be difficult for (DBs). Me - I couldn't care less, I don't want a bean from you'.

Miggsie · 01/06/2011 14:28

My granny was an N and she tried to turn me and my brother against my parents until my mum stopped me form seeing her when I was about 12. I was so relieved, by then I'd twigged what an evil bag my granny was.

My granny also went on and on about her will and who was getting what, and who was going to be cut out of the will etc etc. Anyway she died and it was found she had spent all her money and had only a few thousand left plus house contents.

My brother and I still shudder when we talk about that granny (our other granny was fine) and I wish my mum had stood up to her years before she did then I wouldn't have had years of her messing with my mind. However my mum was very brave to cut contact with my gran as she got such a guilt trip from the rest of her family but she stuck to her guns and never let us kids near granny again. Hooray!

piranhamorgana · 01/06/2011 15:12

Shouty,that is just what I intend to do with the will.Grin In fact,I wonder just what my b's will do,since they utterly refuse to have anything to do with me.How will they get their money? I shall ignore all letters etc..

I am desperate to sell my house so that we can move a further 2 hrs drive away from them all.my F is ill and would be unable to stay overnight.M never leaves his side in case anyone has a conversation with him that doesn't include her.And she won't go more than a day away from my b's dc.So,I cheerfully anticipate that contact will be virtually impossible to arrange.
My dc really do want to maintain minimal contact.They are never,never on their own with her.Baby dd will have no memory of her as they do not want to know her.
They cannot find a way to create an identity/version of me in relation to baby dd/xp that is acceptable to them and/or to telling their friends about.
It would blow their cover completely
Their version of me -" single mother to 4dc,always been a handful,bad choice in men,unable to sustain a marriage probably due to my insistence in selfishly going out to work full time as a senior professional,very difficult to get along with,always a bit off with the family;then thank goodness,at last, found a man big enough to keep me in my place,who seemed to be able to cope with all my dc,got me pg and was fab with the whole family - told p's he was going to marry me etc...

.....and then,in front of them,burst into my house uninvited and shouted obscene,scary violent threats at full volume for at least an hour,right up to my face whilst I cried and baby screamed - oh and I was naked from waist up as bf-ing,and all dc were in hysterics.When he finally left,p 's followed him out apologising for my behaviour and pleading him to come back.They have ever since,berated me for denying babydd any contact with her wonderful father.

Despite repeated Q's from all my dc,they deny that this episode occurred.I suspect the public version touted around their little community ,is that difficult daughter again failed to keep her man etc..

Of course,NC would be far healthier.But a year ago,I couldn't even get my head around how/why they were like this,and would cry and plead and feel hurt/try to make it all better and get it right.I am sooo much stronger now.

Oh,and I have told her to fuck off - many times.She screams and cries and tells everyone how I am bullying her.Then denies any memory of any of it.

Truly,these days,they barely speak to me at all.I imagine that is because I am so good at superficial non-engagement and will instantly call them on anything.

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ShoutyHamster · 01/06/2011 15:41

piranha, it sounds as if every day sees you leaping forward with strength and self-realisation on this. By the sound of it, you'll end up going no contact. And it will be FAB. And your DC will be happier, just as Miggsie was. And one day, when you hear through the grapevine of some put-down, or drama, you'll just be able to say 'Yes, that's right. I'm a huuuge disappointment, you know. Can't keep a man, will insist on having a job, cut contact with the most amaaayzing, giving, wonderful parents this little world will ever know. Do you know, I lay awake at night wondering at my actions - HAHA - NOT!!!'

And you will laugh and simply forget all about it, apart from a fleeting feeling of thankfulness that you're not part of their snippy, bullying, nasty little circle any more.

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