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i can't stop asking questions

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keelybooboo · 30/05/2011 17:32

briefly, dh had an affair with woman from work, discovery was about 2 months ago.

Thought i was doing quite well with moving forward blah blah but now i can't seem to stop myself from interogating him on every detail,

ie, did he take his wedding ring off? how often were they in communication out of worktime? what does she look like? what size is she? who's idea was the hotel? how did he feel when he lied to my face?

you get the idea.

my question is this, is all this normal? will it help me or make it harder?

we went away for a night on sat, no kids just us - and i ended up wanting to know if he'd cuddled her after they had sex!!! kind of ruined the moment! but i had to know!

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squashycreech · 30/05/2011 17:49

That sounds horrible, must be awful to have so many questions and no answers.

I wish I had some advice, but I don't really. Suppose it comes down to if you are able to live with or without those answers.

atswimtwolengths · 30/05/2011 17:50

Hate to tell you, keely, but two months is still really, really early days, particularly if your husband hasn't given you many details.

So sorry you're going through this - I went through it more than once before I dumped my ex husband.

keelybooboo · 30/05/2011 18:19

he seems to think that i'm just going over and over the same things, and what does it matter how many times they had lunch or the fact that she's been in his car.....

but i feel like i've been through a massive trauma and need to keep going through exactly what happened step by step,

my biggest fear i think is that he can't love me enough if he allowed this to happen, i believe that he loves me but i don't see how he can love me enough if that makes sense?

his reasoning for the affair is that they were friends both going through a rough patch at home and somehow it all got out of control.

the whole thing only went on for three months start to finish.

we've been married 14 yrs 2 dc.

i am fully aware that i have pushed him away and believe him when he says that he truely beleived i didn't want to be with him any more.

it hurts so much. all the time.

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atswimtwolengths · 30/05/2011 18:29

I think the reason you need to keep going over it is this.

You lived through those three months, completely unaware of anything going on. You then found out that actually what happened then was completely different to what you'd thought. So for example the day he came in late saying he was caught in traffic, you now suspect he was late because he was with her. The time you got into his car and had to move the seat forward a little, you know was because someone else had been sitting there.

You have to know your own history. If you don't, you'll go mad. He is being totally unreasonable not understanding this.

Why were you pushing him away? Was this during the three month period or before? If it was during, maybe you'd picked up something wrong but couldn't process it, so you kept away from him, sensing he was a danger. This happened to me.

ChristianSalvesen62 · 30/05/2011 20:04

keelybooboo

I am nearly 3 years down the road and am still asking questions! You do need to know the answers and, if you ask the same question over and over again, then he should answer it again and again.

You need WhenWillIFeelNormal on here, she is amazing....

I'm sure she'll be along soon.

lazarusb · 30/05/2011 21:14

Ask all the questions you want and make sure you get answers. If he doesn't like it, tough. He chose this path, not you. It's better than wondering indefinitely. Hopefully the answers you get will help you process and deal with your own feelings and work out which way you want to go from here.

keelybooboo · 30/05/2011 21:16

thanks, i was starting to think i was going out of my mind!

i've been pushing him away for the last couple of yrs not just whilst it was going on. i guess just all my focus was on the kids and running my business. i turned away from him so he turned away from me which made me turn from him more........ dont knowif that makes sense?

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ohmyfucksy · 30/05/2011 21:22

It is perfectly normal to want to know these things, most people would be the same. I don't think you can be properly close to your husband again until you do know. If he wants to rescue the marriage he should understand this and be prepared to tell you everything you want to know. Then you can process it and eventually stop thinking about it.

keelybooboo · 31/05/2011 08:51

well here i am tired and puffy eyed after another night of talking.

feel so low.

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Aislingorla · 31/05/2011 10:20

It will get better keely, you will soon have all the answers to your questions (I hope!) and then then concentrate on rebuilding your marriage and take her out of the picture. She only played a bit part in your life, do not allow her to become too powerful. If you both want your marriage to work, it will. Your H has to know what to do to help you both move on.
I discovered my H's affairs almost 2 years ago, it has been up and down since then but we are much stronger as a result. I can honestly say my H has not put a foot wrong since but still, the betrayal has been so incredibly hurtful.
I read lots and lots of books on Infidelity, Relationships, etc. and the most helpful one for us was Andrew Marshall's ' Will I ever trust again' ( not sure if that's the exact title, something like that).
You will begin to feel better. It is still early days. Be kind to yourself.

Aislingorla · 31/05/2011 10:23

It's called 'How can I ever trust you again?'. He clearly outlines the stages you go through and how to deal with them on your road to recovery.
Good Luck!
X

catwalker · 01/06/2011 18:36

I agree with others - two months is no time at all I'm afraid. I understand completely the need to know every detail - 1.5years later questions still pop into my head! You should make sure that your dh understands that he's not doing you any favours by withholding details (if that's what he's doing). He may think that he's being kind and sparing your feelings. My dh had a lightbulb moment when I finally got him to understand that my imagination would always supply the worst possible scenario - unless I knew otherwise. Some of the details were reassuring in a funny sort of way because it helped me see his fling for what it was - certainly not some grand passion!

People who've been cheated on have also had their history rewritten and they need information to try and make sense of what has happened to them and to their relationship.

MrsGuyOfGisbourne · 01/06/2011 18:48

Completely understandable - but the risk is that the answers will not be what you want to hear, and will beg more questions. If you can do it, it would better to answer your own question silently, I mean, wthout asking it out loud, and assume the least worst scenario - that he didn't cuddle her etc - it will help you not at all to hear him tell the truth if the truth is unpalatable. I would only ask questions that he can answer neutrally, and that the answers are likley to be reassuring - eg did he love her?

seaandasinglefin · 02/06/2011 21:19

Hi Keely, my first post. I have been looking at similar posts for some time but yours was the first to move me to post on my experience. Lots of people will have really helpful advice and comments on how they have coped with their similar experiences, it is truly sad but it happens more than I ever thought and to all sorts of people. It is not your fault, I have only learned that recently...14 years in.

For all I have read on other posts I think that the only commonality is the process you go through, each case is different (with similarities) but there seem to be stages, as I experienced. You need to look after yourself. Make sure you have the capacity to deal with each step, all emotional and all incredibly exhausting.

14 years ago I discovered that my partner at the time had been having an affair with a work colleague. Funny thing is I kind of felt that the intentions of the other party were not well meaning, my partner talked about them and repeated some of the things that had been said by them and I warned to be careful, but, I did not for a minute think that the feeling between them was mutual. I even sensed something the night that the line was crossed and my life was changed forever, but I did nothing to prevent it and am haunted by it.

Discovery is the start, the reaction I got when I confronted my partner was telling, absolute distress and immediate regret. I could tell it was a huge mistake, one because I knew my partner so well, two because I could see it in their face.

This genuine regret and fear of losing me/us tempered the way we dealt with things, I asked questions, and some pretty horrible ones at that, and I got answers. Be prepared to hear the answers if you are prepared to ask the questions, some of them can be as hurtful as the affair itself. One thing that should be clear is that if you ask the questions the answers have to be absolutely open and honest, no matter how difficult for either of you, lies will out in the end, discovering the affair is evidence enough to demonstrate that.

Go with your feelings, if you feel good, feel good, if you get angry, let rip. Don't dwell on it or keep it in.

If my experience is anything to go by it will never stop, the wondering, the visions of what happened, the hatred of the other party, the regret you didn't stop it, the feeling of worthlessness. But it does get less over time and then it may only be a few times a year.

4 years after discovery we were married, we have 2 children and are as in love as we ever were. I know that they say once a cheater always a cheater but I disagree, it really does depend on the person.

I would say that you must take the time to clear the 'noise' of discovery, this will take time, probably months. But you need to have a clear head and distance from your harsh new reality before you can take an informed and level decision on the future.

Above all you need to know yourself. Can you live with it. It will never go away but you will be able to deal with it, you have to one way or another, your husband made that decision for you, i hope he recognises that.

I am not sure this has been helpful, I really wish you the best of luck and peace of mind. I hope in time you will see that terrible though it is, this should not define your life, no Doubt you are much better than that.

stargazy · 02/06/2011 22:30

SEA What a lovely wise post.Thank you.Nearly a year since discovery and don't want to say too much but hurting like hell again today-and feel I'm really letting us down by wanting to go over some stuff again.Guess it's inevitable as the first 'anniversary' imminent.Recently have felt lots calmer.happier and accepting a lot of the time.Well this is us now-with a different history to the one I thought we'd have this time last year when I was blissfully unaware of how very shortly the very foundations of my life were going to be rocked.
Like you DH truly sorry and done everything he can to repair damage.It does get better.It does flare up less often.But as you say it's about knowing yourself and wether you can live with it.
Decided a while back yes I can-and try really hard very day to do/say something kind and thoughtful even if I feel a low spell coming on.My DH has taken it all on the chin. Really KEELYBOOBOO 2 months is no time at all -be kind to yourself and thinking of you x

keelybooboo · 10/06/2011 09:42

a month on from my original post and i've just read it all through all the posts again - i don't know what i would do without mn!

i've asked all that i wanted to know and listened to all the answers openly.

but after a few days of feeling much better and more positive i seem to have completly crashed again

all i feel now is complete and utter despair/depression

i want to move on and be happy again but i don't know how

i wish i knew some one in rl who has been where i am (other than my mother who knows everything but just seems to have a toxic effect on me and leaves me feeling worse after talking to her - she's 30+ years on from discovery and still very bitter and angry)

i've realised this week that i have lots of people around me but no one to talk to

i feel hopelessly alone and very frightened

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Aislingorla · 10/06/2011 10:33

Can you choose a friend to confide in? ( a 'friend' of the marriage). I confided in two, both were/are very supportive, know my H well and had slightly different takes on the situation.
We are 2 years on and I've had ,yet another, relaspe. had a go at my H, started last night and continued this am (not proud and now very tired!)
I can honestly say he has not put a foot wrong in those 2 years but the vague possibility that the ex ow might be at an event we're attending on Saturday set me off.
We ignore her etc. but hate the idea of (possibly) being anywhere near her.

keelybooboo · 12/06/2011 20:31

update - feel really good at the moment, have looked into relate for help but don't know if we need it or not. my fear at the moment is that i'll wake up tomorw and feel like ending it all coz this can't last...

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Aislingorla · 12/06/2011 22:56

Good keely, you will soon have more and more goods and less bad ones as long as your H is doing all the right things to get your marriage back on track.

everyonebutme · 13/06/2011 06:08

Don't know what to say and it's a shame WWIFN has gone as she would have given some good advice (see if you can find some of her previous posts although not everybody agrees with her). I'm in the same situation myself and just want to reassure you that your feelings are absolutely normal. I hope your H can be understanding and do the right things. There will be some tough times ahead and some difficult conversations. Good luck.

CoffeeBeany · 13/06/2011 07:43

How awful for you. Not very helpful but I have always said I'd never be able to forgive an affair and the relationship would be over. Otherwise I'd end up in exactly the same state you are right now, constantly wondering what happened and needing to know every detail. It would drive me insane tbh.

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