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I am so tired of people :(

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LJsmum · 12/11/2005 07:01

Having just spoken to my SIL on the phone and feeling a bit 'used & abused' by her and my BIL, I?m feeling a bit low right now. It doesn?t help that I've had several experiences in the last few days which make me feel that most people basically don?t give a cr*p about anyone but themselves & I?m starting to wish that I was a bit more that way myself.

I get on pretty well with BIL most of the time, except that he is very opinionated and likes things to go his own way. His mother and his MIL both live out of town so they call on us sometimes when they need someone to help out with the kids. (On the other hand, they don?t help out with our son, as my mum & dad live nearby). DH & I may not hear from my BIL for weeks, and then suddenly he will try to call me at home because he wants something. Sometimes if I?m not here, he has rung up to six or seven times in a row but refuses to leave a message on our machine (because he ?doesn?t like leaving messages?), and then when he finally reaches me, he says things like ?WHERE have you BEEN?? You?re never home, I?ve been trying to get you?, etc etc. Last time it happened, I told him to leave a message because how else am I supposed to know that someone is chasing me?? About 99% of the time, he?s only trying to call me because he wants us to mind one of the children or help them out in some way. It makes me so angry. My SIL is usually better than that, we get on pretty well but a couple of weeks ago she rang me and left a message for me to call her, so I called her back the same afternoon and left a message on her machine. Nothing. She didn?t call back for a week, then I tried to ring her again and left another message. Nothing again. Another week later, I rang her again (thinking that she may not have gotten my message) and she said ?Oh, I only rang you to see if you could help us out with the kids in December, but we?ve figured something else out now.? And she couldn?t have returned my phone call to let me know?? To make it worse, BIL has a sarcastic sense of humour and can be very friendly when he wants to, but also takes the mickey out of us when he wants to as well? I really just don?t find it funny. Basically I keep in contact with them because it?s DH?s brother, and because I get on well with SIL most of the time. I?m also disappointed with a couple of friends of mine right now who are only in touch when it suits them, I really get tired of this attitude & find it hurtful. The other day I went shopping with a friend, I really didn?t feel like going but I said ?Yes? to her because she?d asked me to do something with her the week before and I couldn?t go, so I didn?t want to let her down two times in a row. I?m actually wondering whether it?s worth trying to consider other people?s feelings, when so often it just doesn?t get returned. Thanks for listening - it helps to vent but what I?d really like to do is care less about the things people do and the way they are.

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auntymandy · 12/11/2005 07:16

Hi LJsmum.
I totally understand where youre coming from! I used to feel like this with my friends..they'd ring I would drop everything and run..if I needed anything they were too busy. i'm afraid you just have to toughen up, its nt easy but I learned in the end. I cant help, helping people out it seems to be my nature,but I try to stop and think noe before i say 'I'll do it!'

moondog · 12/11/2005 07:24

LJ...think we've all felt like this sometimes.
Sad fact of life that if one is too obliging,one gets abused.

AM is right-try saying no occasionally,politley and firmly and don't feel bad about it.

They'll get the message.

tigermoth · 12/11/2005 07:38

I feel like this today LJsmum. A friend of ds1's is coming round to see him. DS1 really likes this boy ( freinds since they were toddlers). The parents are meant to be good friends of ours. They live a 40 minute drive away so if the boys are to see each other it means someone has to do some driving.

I have this boy round 3 or 4 times a year, sometimes for sleepovers, and take him on outings. The last time ds1 was invited to his friend's house was 2 years ago, but the parents are always happy for us to have their boy round. I've come to the conclusion that they just can't be a**ed with the driving. If it wasn't for ds and the long history he shares with his friend, I would call it a day.

My dh had a best friend with a sarcastic sense of humour who only phoned when he wanted something. After one big let down, dh saw him for what he was, and although still friendly with him, keeps him at a distance, expects nothing from him and offers nothing to him. I think that's the way to go.

bosscat · 12/11/2005 08:44

I was sitting on the train the other day pondering why so many people are annoying me at the moment. I concluded that as you get older it seems you get possibly less tolerant. That is the case for me anyway. I think we all go through phases like this LJ, put it down to age.

zippitippitoes · 12/11/2005 08:47

I think these are called groan calls

phone rings and you think what now

it is a case of being firm in a breezy way

I'm useless at it, but I had one particular "friend" who always did this last minute you have my kids I've got a great chance to do xxx. Of course it was out of the question for her to ever be able to return the favour.

So Sympathy and good luck

Carmenere · 12/11/2005 09:02

I think that these type of problem often occur with inlaws and it is down to the different way people relate to their own families. For some people it is perfectly acceptable to take members of their own family for granted (and this extends to their spouses!) ie casually using you for occasional childcare.
How does your dh react?
The main thing is that do you think they know they upset you? If you think they do - thats unforgiveable. If you think they have no idea how you feel then you can forgive them and try to set new boundries.
One suggestion would be that next time they ask you to mind their kids you could be nice as pie and say 'of course thats no problem but would you mind looking after ds next week as I think my mum and dad could do with a rest'.
I am also quite sure your friends and family will still like and respect you if you refuse occasionally.You sound like a very nice and kind person who could do with developing a slightly tougher skin.

tigermoth · 12/11/2005 09:29

Agree you should ask them for some reciprocal child care the next time they ask you. It's a neat way of getting your point across.

LJsmum · 12/11/2005 12:17

Carmenere - they probably don't know they upset me, but SIL was acting a bit sheepish when I spoke to her on the phone so I think she knows they probably do the wrong thing sometimes. I'm getting quite close to saying something to my BIL though, and I'm hoping it doesn't happen on Christmas Day! We've all planned to go out for lunch together, so I hope it's a pleasant day.

As for dh - he seems to sit back and let me deal with his family. I had a go at him the other day, because not only do I buy presents & cards for his whole family, I'm also the one who keeps in contact with them, makes plans to see them (mainly so my son can see his cousins), and he can't be bothered doing it unless he absolutely has to. DH has quite a slack attitude when it comes to his family and I think he'd rather just sit back and not have to deal with any of it.

Bosscat it probably has a lot to do with age too, but I just notice how many people out there really only think of themselves - and as I said before, I just wish I could train myself not to care so much. I'm sure life would be a little less stressful

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tigermoth · 12/11/2005 16:17

This discussion inspired me! When my friend mentioned how she hadn't seen ds but couldn't stop now as she was just off shopping, I said 'well ds would love to come to your house so next time, lets make the arrangement for a playdate at your house, not mine' she did a double-take, but I think she got the message

LJsmum · 12/11/2005 21:49

Good for you Tigermoth

On the odd occasion that I've been straight-forward with one of my friends about something, I notice they do a double-take as well... must be so out of character for me It gets the message across though.

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mogwai · 14/11/2005 12:30

I go through phases of being really annoyed at the amount of effort I/we make with friends and the level of "return" we get (couldn't think of a better word).

The list of crimes is so long. For example, we had a group of four friends we went away on hols with a couple of times (we did the organising) and when we arrived at the accomodation, they would unfailingly bag the best room(s) and leave us to whatever was left. Once they left us with a bedroom that had no curtains after they had sorted themselves out. The thing was, at the time, I decided I would henceforth behave in exactly the same way, but I knew I would never be so selfish, so we didn't go away with them again.

That was the problem for me - it was so deeply ingrained to treat others how I'd like to be treated, that I would be constantly shocked and let down by people's behaviour.

Some friends have fallen by the wayside because of this. For others, I've toughened up and come to compromises in my own head (for example, when some friends were visiting recently, my dh wanted our baby daughter to sleep in the en suite bathroom so that thier babies could have her bedroom - I refused and made the children sleep in the same (spacious) room as their parents - why should we put ourselves out?).

I find I feel happier when I have sorted out the boundaries in my head and worked out what my own limits are - and it's mush less frustrating when you stick to these limits because you don;t feel you have given so much of yourself for nothing in return, IYSWIM

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