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abusive relationship and children-long sorry

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bigbuttons · 21/05/2011 22:56

I am currently living under the same roof as my dc's father. We are splitting, the dc's know, but we have to sell the house which is taking time.
(d)p is emotionally abusive. He has been physical in the past but not for a long time.
I know what he is and I fully intend to get out with the kids.
He will pick on me in front of the children/put me in a position where he is being very unpleasant but I don't want to retaliate because it would compromise the poor dc's even more than his behaviour does already.
E.g if he is insulting like this evening in front of the kids telling me I didn't do any work today ( I looked after all 6 dc on my own whilst he skulked upstairs "working" and that the gardening and tidying up I did all day wasn't work it was a hobby and looking after the kids could never be classed as work and if I saw it as work there was something wrong with me etc etc.
You get the picture.
The younger kids had asked him to take them out to the zoo but he said he was too tired. He does this all the time, never takes them anywhere or spends time with them. He's always too ill or tired. He never puts the little ones to bed, reads them a story, brushes teeth, do bath times, he has never once in 13 years bathed one of his children. Never taken them swimming, played football, cricket played hide and seek, done drawing, nothing. His idea of playing is to sit there and let the kids run around. If he occasionally comes with me to the zoo it is me pushing swings and playing, he sits there on his ipod because he's too 'ill'

So I know that he will go for me when he knows I will not fight back because the children are around.
He says things when they are there like" When these kids are older they will see you for what you are, how mad you are, how you have spoilt their lives" He does this infront of the kids and calls me names infront of them.
I try my hardest not to fight with him in front of them, not to retaliate, sometimes I do but most of the time I seemingly just take it and they hear all sort of shit being spouted against me. I also do not want to sit them down and tell them that daddy's horrible etc because he's their father and they are caught in the middle. I don't want them to take sides. It has to be their choice what they want. I give them all the love and reassurance I can. He uses them as a power thing. he will take them out for a walk in the evening when he knows I don't want it, but of course if I say it's too late then he makes me out to be the bad person spoiling their fun. If I challenge him about it in front of them then they feel really awkward and upset and I want to avoid that, it's so difficult.
I am hoping that when they are older they will understand what sort of man he is.

They generally do not want to spend any time with him, the younger 2 in particular don't like him at all.

Please can you give me some advice? How can I deal with things to help my children when their father is on the attack and wielding his power stick? Sometimes this can be very subtle of course.
Those of you in relationships like this, how have you helped your children through this?
Those of you who have managed to get out how do your children see what happened when you were with the father? Has their perspective changed over the years?

BTW their father does precious little with them. He is self employed and works from home, which makes things even worse for me. It is me who does all the normal stuff. The only out of school stuff he does is picking up from play dates and supporting the 2 older boys with their sport stuff. He has never been to parents' evenings or anything like that, never supported any hobbies other than sports.
I do not need convincing that he is a grade A shit and that I must get out. It's the poor kids my heart breaks forSad

Am I making any sense?
Sorry this has turned into a ramble, a bit of a splurge of thinking. There are so many years, so many, so much to say and I don't really know where to start.
Thanks for reading, any advice appreciated

OP posts:
bigbuttons · 23/05/2011 20:26

Thanks everyone. I shall investigate if there are ways of forcing him out of the house.
Today I have had all sorts of accusations hurled at me by email, that I do not look after the dc's properly, that I look for any excuse not to be with them. I don't cook for them, put them to bed properly etc etc. That the house was dirty and messy.He said that the reason I wanted him to take them out and be with them at the weekends was so that I could do bugger all around the house.

I have a mother's help 5 days a week, the house is very clean and tidy, I pay for her with my money. I chose to do this so that I can have some free time to do things for myself in the mornings since I get no support from him with the kids once they are all back from school and pre school.
He has never given me a lie in, even though he often does not appear unitl 10am at the weekends. Mornings, once the kids are at school in the week, are the only time I have. He is adamant that my money is his money so that it is infact he who works hard to pay for the cleaner because I am too lazy to do it myself.
He is quite quite mad.
Btw we live in a large old house, that needs so much work done on it that he never gets round to doing, manky old toilets with tiles falling off the walls, threadbare carpets. It's very disheartening to clean the house up day after day when th basic fabric of it is in such need of attention. I try my best, but of course we live in a pig stye with all my " shit spilling out all over the place"
I feel I need to get these snippets of his terrible behaviour off my chest. I am not expecting any replies as such, there is nothing much anyone can say. It feels good to say it after all these years though

I would love to find more women who have come through this, it gives me hope when all seems so dark and awful.

Today I took 2 of the dc's up to London to the zoo. Every year I take the children, in groups of 2 to London, we have a day out, exhausting but fun. My mum always looks after the others for me, never him. He has never taken them anywhere. An avid football player he has never once taken his now 12 and 11 year old oldest sons to a match, any match, ever.

He's a lazy mad fucker.

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bigbuttons · 23/05/2011 20:27

sorryBlush

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humptydidit · 23/05/2011 22:01

bigbuttons it all sounds so familiar, the threats and abusive comment. My exH used to really piss me off by deliberately speaking under his breath so it was just loud enough for me to hear, like"fucking lazy bitch"... then when I said what did you say, he would say "nothing" with a nasty smug smile.

I also remember the accusations about being a bad mother, in fact one of the things that riled me the most was me getting up in the morning after sleeping on the sofa bed with a ratty baby who wouldn't sleep at night and rushing around getting the kids ready for school while he would drag himself out of bed at 8.45 and start shouting cos we weren't ready.

He also came across as almost insane. When I left him for the second time, I actually phoned the mental health nurse and asked for him to be assessed as the only explanation I had for his behaviour was that he was literally mad. They assessed him and said he was mentally ok, so I now see that it was all part of the game to keep me on my toes and questioning myself.

I'm glad you had a nice day out in London, it's good to get some time on your own with the kids.

One day (soon hopefully) you will put this all behind you and be able to laugh at him... I left my ex in scotland and returned to south of england to my family. It was funny one day in half term, I bumped into a couple we used to know in Scotland at a zoo here, they asked me if I had left exH behind for a few days of peace... I said "Actually I have left him there for good!" Their faces were a picture, they didn't know what to say, but I laughed and said it's so much better without him!!! Bit cruel on the old couple but it felt good to tell somebody who actually knew us that I ditched him!!!

Have you spoken to womens aid? I got a place on the freedom programme, which is a course for victims of domestic abuse thru womens aid. Today, we covered the traits of the "bad father"... It was not a pretty picture, but it feels good to have discussed it and shared some stuff and seen my ex for what he really is
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