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MrSpoc · 12/05/2011 17:07

Hi All,

Nothing serious but my wife thinks that i am not romantic so I would like to surprise her. Any ideas on what you good people think is romantic or what you would love a partner to do. Or what is the most romantic experience you have had.

Thanks,

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TobyLerone · 12/05/2011 17:12

I'd love my bf to just organise something. If ever we decide to go out, it's me who has to organise everything. He very occasionally says he wants to take me out to dinner, but then asks me where we should go and when and it's all a big palaver and it ends up not happening. He's happy to pay if we ever eat out, but that's not the point and is not, IMO, 'taking me out to dinner'.

I want him to say to me, "On Friday night, dress nicely and be ready for 7pm. We're going out."

A nice weekend away would be the ultimate, I think, but I don't think he has it in him to organise that. Ever.

Malificence · 12/05/2011 17:17

I think that it should be something you've thought up all by yourself, not via ideas from random women, whose ideas of romance will vary from a bouquet of roses to going dogging.

It also depends on whether you are doing it purely to give her a nice surprise or just to get brownie points and a shag.

MrSpoc · 12/05/2011 17:18

Thanks TobyLerone. We do stuff like that already and we are away this weekend staying in a castle for an engagement party. the room we had booked was tiny and dated so I rang and asked for a bigger / posher room thinking this would be a romantic gesture but apparantly it aint.

Any other good tips?

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PhilipJFry · 12/05/2011 17:20

Romance can be so many things on such different scales. And here's the thing: a small, meaningful gesture can be more touching than the larger, more expensive ones. It can be something practical and gratifying like surprising your other half by cooking dinner or cleaning the house while they're out. It could be buying them their favourite perfume or makeup brand, or something special between the two of you like a meal out or film together. Things like this can mean much more than just a few hours away when you're stuck in the humdrum of regular life- it's excitement and being made to feel special.

Maybe focus on smaller gestures on a regular basis? As nice as a bigger room is maybe she's looking for something more personal and sentimental?

As for me, I like silly little things like post-stick notes with messages on them or my favourite dessert being brought home. Things like that make me feel good because someone thought about me and wanted to make me smile.

MrSpoc · 12/05/2011 17:21

Ha ha Malificence. I think I am romantic, book a table at a restaurant. Good for a long walk. Candles around a nice hot bubble bath etc. But she does not think these are romantic gestures but more of a "what people expect or think they should do".

I dont want a quick shag, i actually want to really impress her and sweep her off her feet without her saying "how much did this set us back etc"

I came here for advice as it is the only way I will learn or get an idea / inspiration.

Thanks,

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spidookly · 12/05/2011 17:22

It's a romantic gesture if you did it intending to be one.

It sounds like the person who isn't romantic here is her.

Tell her to romance you.

TobyLerone · 12/05/2011 17:23

Oh, Malificence, he's only asking for ideas. I wouldn't give a toss if my bf happened to get ideas from other people. It's not like they'd be arranging anything on his behalf.

I also think it's unfair to speculate on the OP's motives. If he'd been a woman asking for suggestions for nice things she could do for her husband, she probably wouldn't have got that response.

Hmmmm. Going away for an engagement party wouldn't count for me as a nice weekend away.

BooJonesMummy · 12/05/2011 17:23

I kinda agree with Milificence. Needs to be something very special to her. Do you know her favourite flowers? Something very personal like her favourite romcom or tear jerker and have romantic evening in with popcorn, a soppy movie and a nice meal? I'm not a romantic person myself but I'm sure deep down theres a romantic side of me just waiting for the right gesture.

I also agree with TobyLerone. Don't ask her where she wants to go. Do some research find out if she like Italian or Indian best and take her somewhere new!

thefatishistory · 12/05/2011 17:25

I think a room upgrade is a lovely idea to make her more comfortable during her stay but there you are. If she wants something more personal then what about getting her a book that you know she'll like without her having to ask for it. I also like jewellery to mark special occasions.

zikes · 12/05/2011 17:26

I think it's about really really thinking about her tastes and doing something for her that doesn't necessarily benefit you as well (like a larger room is nice and all, but it's very practical and makes things better for you as well - it isn't just for her).

TobyLerone · 12/05/2011 17:26

I agree with PhillipJFry. Little things are important. And showing that you 'know' her.

My bf thinks it's the best thing in the world when I just know what he wants/needs. I'll bring him home his favourite dessert or cook him his favourite dinner, just because. He's even impressed when I seem to psychically know that he wants a cup of tea and present him with one. He says, "how did you know that's exactly what I wanted?!" like he's genuinely gobsmacked.

He's clearly very easily pleased.

MrSpoc · 12/05/2011 17:28

Thats the thing, I am stumped for ideas.

Personally i think i am good and very romantic. If i go shopping and see some nice flowers, I buy them (Her favorite are lillies). Or for example this weekend I took the boys aout for a few hours on Saturday then Sunday let her have a big lie in while I took the boys out for breakfast then to their grans came back about 13.00 thinking she would of had a nice time but she got up as soon as we left to clean the bloody house. (I also clean alot of the house it just gets so messy with the boys).

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TobyLerone · 12/05/2011 17:30

I can see why you might be stuck, tbh. What you're doing sounds great. Is she grateful when you do those things?

MrSpoc · 12/05/2011 17:33

Yeah she is greatful but she always jokes that I am not romantic. The thing is she is great but i would really like to do something for her where she is completly sweeped off her feet (i am also bad at keeping secrets from her and always tell her the present i have bought her etc).

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zikes · 12/05/2011 17:35

Does she have any dreams or ambitions that you could help her achieve? I quite fancy going up in a hot air balloon (even though I'm terrified of heights Confused) so I'd love it if one day dh booked us in for something like that. But it's totally about her tastes.

Malificence · 12/05/2011 17:38

Actually, real romance is spontaneous, planning romantic interludes can seem a bit staged I imagine - to me romance is about the little things, a cuddle when you are feeling crappy, getting in the bath together and washing each other, holding hands when you are walking around, saying I love you every single day , a cup of tea in bed .

A meal out or a walk or weekend away isn't romantic to me either, nor is candles around the bath, I'd think he'd gone a bit loopy if he did that.

It really does depend on what she likes, but if she's being petulant and not actually telling you what sort of things she would like, well, that's a whole different ball game.

Speedbump · 12/05/2011 17:38

what about doing a paper trail treasure hunt. You could start with clues leading to the dinner table where there is a lovely home cooked meal. The next clue comes with pudding and leads to a box of choccies which houses a clue leading to her favourite film.

I'm sure you could be more original than these ideas but it.

Have a look at a love language quiz online as that might give you more of a clue as to what she thinks is romantic. I thought my husband liked gifts best but actually he likes things which help him out e.g. giving up my day and spending it down the workshop with him. It's my idea of boredom but it makes him feel brilliant so it's worth doing.

MrSpoc · 12/05/2011 17:41

That sounds like a good idea Zikes, Ill have to have a think.

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MrSpoc · 12/05/2011 17:43

I like the treasure hunt idea thanks,.

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Anniegetyourgun · 12/05/2011 17:59

Lovely ideas, and how nice that you are putting so much effort into making your DW feel loved. I was just wondering though, could be way off the mark here, but maybe she doesn't mean "you don't make romantic gestures towards me" - it does appear that you do things which most people would consider romantic. Perhaps she feels you're ticking boxes by doing romantic things - buy wife bunch of flowers, check; candles round bath, check - but doubts that you have a romantic soul. The little things, as Malificence puts it so well, can mean more than grander gestures, especially if the latter cost money and she's the one who has to balance the budget! But is it how you treat her that she's talking about? Is it more, perhaps, that she'd like to see you moved to tears by beautiful music or a sad story but that just ain't your style? Can you write poetry? (Would it be unwise to even try? Doing it badly may make her laugh, but not in a good way.) What does stir your soul? You don't have to tell us, think about it though and maybe share it with her.

I wonder how you could raise the question delicately without either sounding offensive or appearing to pump her for ideas.

WhenwillIfeelnormal · 12/05/2011 20:12

So much depends on what your wife is like and what makes her tick. Some of the most romantic things H has done for me really didn't cost a lot of money, but they cost him a lot of time, effort and memory.

A few months ago, he knew I was getting stressed about a deadline. My office was an absolute mess full of papers connected with a bid I was writing. I met some friends for a night out after work and when I came home, he'd tidied and cleaned my office from top to bottom, meticulously filed everything and put fresh flowers in a vase on my desk. With the kids' help (minimal, they are teenagers after all Wink) he'd spent all evening on it, having come home from work early to do it. That meant so much to me.

He will also go to the ends of the earth trying to find an item that I want that is out-of-stock, or once or twice, a book that was out of print. He listens really carefully and then regards it as a personal challenge to get it.

He's done more than his share of grand gestures over the years, but the ones that stick out and in truth, meant the most, are the ones that have instantly made my life easier and his harder, in terms of the effort he's taken to achieve them. Also those memorable gestures show just how well he knows me and what I get pleasure from in life.

This might be what your wife means. For me, coming home to find that he's ironed all my work shirts, or performed some disliked task that I was expecting to do but had been putting off, is far more romantic somehow than a bunch of flowers or a surprise weekend away.

FannyNil · 12/05/2011 22:19

Spoc, what sort of woman is your wife? Does she enjoy the outdoors? If so, how about a walk in bluebell woods or along the beach somewhere, followed by a lovely lunch or dinner. Or good seats for the theatre/opera/stand-up comedy venue likewise followed by a meal. If you can run to it, a weekend away at a country house hotel or, if you live in the country, in a city with visits to galleries/a gig etc. If she likes surprises, make all the plans then spring it on her. If not, tell her what you have planned and keep her posted as you book/arrange it. The thing is to make sure she knows you are doing it all for her. Hope you both have a great time, whatever you decide.

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