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Help and advice needed

11 replies

Arc2005 · 07/11/2005 21:40

I can't really believe that I am sitting here writing this, but I really need some other peoples opinions and I am too ashamed to ask people I know in RL.
The problem is my dh's attitute and behavious towards our children We have three sons 7,3 and 9 months. He is constantly shouting at them and is very agressive with them if they dont stop what they are doing immediately and jump to his every command. He is also 'casually' violent with them - I know that sounds so awful. This evening ,for example, my eldest son was getting his reading book to do some homework. Not fast enough for dh who kicked him (in 'jest') as he went up the stairs. ds1 is in tears , dh just tells him hes a sissy. ds2 got a clip round the head at the w/e for some minor misdemeanour.
I think I hate him for this.
I am NOT a perfect parent, but I don't hit my children and I try really hard not to shout. When I speak to my dh about his behavior he gets very defensive and tells me I dont know what I am talking about, all men are like this . Are they ? I can find no words to tell him how desperately wrong I think his behaviour is, or am I overreacting like he says ?

In many ways he is a great dad to them, he takes them to the park and plays footabll, he makes up stories for them and spends lots of time with them, But its all so agressive.
He would never hit me (or any other adult)its just like the children are there to be bullied. Its breaking my heart - i don't want to break up my marriage but i can't go on like this. I suggested marriage counselling but he wont go. I thought that maybe if other people wrote things here maybe I could show him the thread so he would know that other people dont think this is acceptable.
I know his own father did not behave like this. THere are other issues too in our marriage, like his heavy cannabis use which I really dislike in front of the children, but he tells me thats rubbish too, but apart from the issues with the children we would get along ok i think....

Sorry this is so long - anyone got any ideas ?

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aloha · 07/11/2005 21:43

He uses illegal drugs in front of his children? Well call me a miserable old kiljoy but I would simply not tolerate this.
Nor would I tolerate my children being kicked. I certainly don't think you are overreacting. Are the children afraid of him?
I'm not sure showing him this thread would achieve anything tbh. Does he know how seriously you take his behaviour? That you are thinking of ending your marriage over it?
My dh never hits our children.

muma3 · 07/11/2005 21:44

think this is all about your partner trying to be in control . does he work ? is he getting grief of boss? being undermined at work can make him take it out on children . its all about feeling in control and if someone is giving him grief at work he needs someone under him to reep the consequences . i might be wrong but i had the same behaviour inflicted on me as a child and it is in no means the right way to behave

starlover · 07/11/2005 21:45

no, this is NOT normal.. and no, all men are NOT like this!

Personally there is no way on earth I would stay with dp if he kicked my little boy, even if it was just a play kick!
If your ds isn't laughing then I fail to see how it was "in jest"!
Can he not see that he is upsetting both you and the children???

I have to say that if i was in your position I would leave him. He obviously isn't prepred to change his behaviour, and why shoulod you and the children suffer because of it?

Perhaps it's time you suggested a trial separation?

Don't even get me started on the smoking drugs in front of kids!!!!

soapbox · 07/11/2005 21:47

He sounds like the sound of abuser that lies behind the current crop of NSPCC adverts.

In many ways he is a great dad to them - you are joking surely!

muma3 · 07/11/2005 21:48

also my ex partner used cannabis and he has such a bad temper now that my dd1 has decided she doesnt want to see him anymore because he scares her he is so aggressive worth mentioning to him that he might end up being hated by the children cus i know my daughter has seen the light at last thankgod!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Arc2005 · 07/11/2005 21:52

I feel very close to tears right now, thank yuou for your messages of support.
I think possibly he does feel undermined as I am (always have been) the major breadwinner. But he does masses (most) of the domestic stuff. I had always thought of it as a partnership.
I think I am going to try and get a babysitter one evening this week and take him out somewhere quiet and tell him straight that this is wrong and if it does not stop I will leave him. Oh Sh*t that scary.

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NotQuiteCockney · 07/11/2005 21:53

It sounds tough, Arc2005, but you're doing the right thing.

All men do not hit their kids! My DH tries to avoid shouting, too (as do I).

muma3 · 07/11/2005 22:26

good luck and whatever happens show your darling children how to be strong . you can do it xxxx

notasheep · 07/11/2005 22:51

MY boyfriend is heavy on the Cannabis too-in my opinion Cannabis is the devil in disguise,i am sorry to sound so negative-does he get paranoid and furtive? I am really feeling for u here

Arc2005 · 08/11/2005 11:33

Had a massive row this morning.so much for doing this quietly and in private. His (lovely) parents got dragges in - at least they told him ,in no uncertain terms, that his behaviour is not acceptable, So now we are at a point where he has admitted - for the first time that it is not acceptable to hit the children - even if he means it 'as a joke'. Whether he actually believes this or not is another matter, but I have stated (and I REALLY mean it) that if he does not stop I will leave him. I think he knows I mean it too.
Thanks for advice, this has been brewing for ages, and last night was the first time I have had the courage (all be it annonymously on an internet site) to tell the truuth as it is. for the first time I dont see divorce as the worst possible option.
we'll see what happens.

Notasheeep - I HATE cannabis, in my opinion it has robbed him of almost all ambition to do anythig except smoke more cannabis, distorted his judgement and the thought of my children thinking this is and OK /normal/thing to do is very, very worrying...

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MeerkatsUnite · 08/11/2005 13:44

Arc2005

If he has admitted he has a problem with violence will he now prove to you that he will back this up by seeking counselling?. He has a heck of a lot to prove to you in my book and he may well have to lose everything supposedly dear to him in order to see sense (and even then he may not decide to change).

I notice he has not mentioned anything about the cannabis usage - does he not regard this as a problem?. Heavy and prolonged cannabis usage can affect some people mentally and can enhance feelings of paranoia. Do not forget as well he made a conscious choice to start taking cannabis and only he can decide to come off it if he wants to (and I see no sign that he sees this as a problem).

I feel for your children particularly, all this they are seeing around them is causing untold emotional damage to them. Frankly speaking, you as their mum along with your kids deserve someone far better than a violent bully and a dopehead as a husband/dad. You can get out of this abusive
relationship.

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