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womblingfree1970 · 29/04/2011 14:10

For those who remember my previous posts.The conscensus from nearly everyone was that I should leave my H.That my H was having the best of both worlds by living alone in a flat and popping around to see me and kids.And that when I had asked H about moving back H had stated that he couldn't see that happening(unless I could think of something) as he'd have to give up flat and be taking a big risk.Well I haven't plucked up the courage to leave,so will understand if you don't want to answer my thread.But any responses would be greatly appreciated.

I've had alot of other issues to deal with(other than relationship with H).My youngest child has been physically lashing out at me(this started back in sept/oct time).I've since discovered that she was being bullied at school.Its been a tough few months.I know she's only a child but to be emotionally and physically attacked by your own child is emotionally draining and I have felt quite low.
I ended up moving her to another school as the school she was at wasn't really addressing the situation.

Because of this and other issues, my relationship with my H has still continued along the path of him popping around to see us.I have wanted to have a chat to H about the whole relationship situation(that I'm not sure whether it can work) and the fact that I'm still not happy with the way he acts but this conversation has been on hold whilst dealing with my daughter's situation.

So fast foreward to the last few weeks and what I'd really like your perspectives on..H has been gradually getting worse in some(not all)of his behaviour towards me.Nothing major but for instance yesterday,approx 4pm,I was on the phone to him.Whilst chatting I said that I had to get off the phone soon because I was expecting a professional around.They were coming to get an update on how things were going with my daughter(seeing if her behaviour towards me was calming down).He then says well thats ok when they knock on the door,answer it and if its them just say hang on a minute and then quickly finish call by telling me they have turned up and hang up.

I don't like doing this(he knows this).If I know someone is coming around I like to be prepared and off the phone(no distractions) and ready for the visit.I just find it courteous to do so(Am I weird to do that or is it normal).H says I'm strange doing this,but I think its normal.Anyway so I reminded him of this and also commented how I find it a bit annoying that he seems to want to call me when he knows someone is coming around to visit and will often do so during visits(professional ones or any other).On saying this H just hung up on me.

now the hanging up thing is something he's been doing more off again(did this in the past).Then later he's been ringing back(usually by about 10pm) and apologising.To me this is borderline abusive.After all,in a normal relationship,(correct me if I'm wrong)if someone is not happy with something their partners said they should just be stating that,not hanging up the phone.

So anyway along with everything else,I decided enough was enough and that if he tried to call to apologise I would not answer.This happened.

So since yesterday I haven't spoken to him.Then today I'm involved in quite a bad RTA.And when asked by medics who to contact I gave H number(due to H is only one who can collect kids from school).If it wasn't for that I wouldn't have told anyone.He was called,I went to A&E.I'm ok now just battered and bruised and still in a bit of shock.

So he comes to see me and took me home.Then after everything is sorted he then questions our situation(from the way he was acting,I think he wanted all to be forgiven,at one point he patted me on the bottom).I tell him I'm not happy(referring to his recent past behaviour and the whole not wanting to give up flat).That he is disrespectful,at the minimum and basically taking the ..He stated that he is always there for me when I need him(like todays situation or situations with the kids).This is true.But he seems to think that treating me ok most of the time and helping out in my time of need is good enough and that I'm focusing too much on the other behaviour.He also seems to think that he's being the good H by helping out and being there when things happen like the situation today and that somehow I should be grateful and ignore the rest.But surely thats not good enough.Anyway one thing led to another and he walked out.

The other gripe with him is that he is just downright lazy.It was another problem we had whilst living together and that still hasn't changed.spends most of the time watching TV,sleeping and ignoring the kids.

I know this sounds silly but I'm still not sure if I can just walk away from this.The kids are always asking about daddy coming back.

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womblingfree1970 · 29/04/2011 14:14

Forgot to say whilst I've been sorting out daughter's situation H did have a change of heart and said he'd give up flat and move back in.But because of the last conversation where he'd stated he wasn't willing to give up flat I felt diheartened and wasn't really interested.Plus the fact that you had all made me realise that he was basically taking the micky out of me.

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TheOriginalFAB · 29/04/2011 14:16

He is a bully. How dare he tell you how to greet guests? You can hang up if he is going to be a twat.

womblingfree1970 · 29/04/2011 14:21

TheOriginalFAB

Do you believe the hanging up on me like that is bordeline abusive as well.Thats my feeling.No explaination,nothing.just hangs up on me.Has been doing this more often.

I used to call back and try to sort it out which would then lead to him hanging up agaian and again.Don't do that anymore.

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Doha · 29/04/2011 14:26

There is nothing in your post that endears your DH to me. He is keeping you dangling on a string.
He is emotionally abusive and acts likea child.
I cannot for the life of we see why you want him back living with you.
Please do yourself a favour and stop relying on this man.

TheOriginalFAB · 29/04/2011 14:27

Well no, you would say you can't tell me how to speak on the phone and greet visitors so I am going to hang up now.

Patienceobtainsallthings · 29/04/2011 14:30

So basically he is doing what he wants when he wants.Take back some control,u don't have to answer to him,he chose to leave .Start getting on with ur own life,don't wait for him to make all the decisions.He sounds like an immature selfish guy ,
why would u want to be with a bloke that hurts you and disrespects you ?

womblingfree1970 · 29/04/2011 14:31

TheOriginalFAB

Sorry I think you've misunderstood what I was asking.I know if I hung up after stating he shouldn't speak to me is ok.

But in my original post H just hung up on me after I stated that I think he goes out of his way to ring at inappropriate times.Do you think to just hang up on me like that is borderline abusive.

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amberleaf · 29/04/2011 14:40

Do you think to just hang up on me like that is borderline abusive.

Does it matter? he is doing far worse than hang up on you!!

amberleaf · 29/04/2011 14:41

Hes a pisstaker whos having his cake and eating it too.

Pls tell me you dont do his washing

Patienceobtainsallthings · 29/04/2011 14:46

Childish,controlling,immature,selfish,disrespectful,all of these words.But this isn't just phonecalls ,he just thinks he is entitled to treat u this way.You don't have to stay in this ,you can choose to jump out.You can't change how he treats you but you can change how you react to his behaviour.raise the bar to what is acceptable behaviour,have boundaries ,put yourself first,you deserve respect you are raising his kids.Your instinct is telling u his behaviour is unacceptable,trust ur gut x

womblingfree1970 · 29/04/2011 14:47

NO I don't do anything for him.When he's at his flat he takes care of himself,washing and meals.I do include him in our meal when he comes around but thats it.

His flat is a mess though.Lets the dishes pile up all week.Never cleans it.Dead flies everwhere.I know that doesn't effect me as its his home but still because its one of the reasons we seperated in the first place it leads me to believe he hasn't changed.
He Spends his evening sat in front of the TV/sleeping and when he comes around to see us he does the same.We even went on holiday together to see how things were.He spent most of it in front of the telly or sleeping whilst I spent time with the kids and looked after them.

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MrsMoppet · 29/04/2011 14:50

Do you love him? Do you want to spend the rest of your life with him?

Patienceobtainsallthings · 29/04/2011 14:53

Or is it just a hard habit to finally break ?

MrsMoppet · 29/04/2011 14:56

Yes, exactly, Patience

OP - do you want to spend the rest of your life with him without him changing his behaviour? - presumably not, or you would be living together full-time. Or do you only want to stay with him if he changes? Because it seems that he's amply demonstrated that he won't change.

FabbyChic · 29/04/2011 14:57

What kind of relationship actually goes backwards? Yours has.

You lived together now you don't, he has moved out and yet nothing has got any better.

How long is it gonig to be before you say fuck it I want more than this?

womblingfree1970 · 29/04/2011 15:01

MrsMoppet

Yes I love him.But I know thats not enough.

Ideally I would like him to change his ways and start treating me right so we could try and work at the relationship,especially for the kids.But even though he admits to some of the issues(like the laziness/tv) he still doesn't change.

The other stuff like being controlling,disrespectful etc always comes with an excuse.

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womblingfree1970 · 29/04/2011 15:06

((How long is it gonig to be before you say fuck it I want more than this?))

FabbyChic

Thats the issue I'm isolated(no family or friends) and I think so downtrodden by him and also the problems with my daughter.I'm scared of really making the final decision and actually leaving him completely.

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Patienceobtainsallthings · 29/04/2011 15:14

It's tough but you can't change someone's behaviour no matter how much you want it to work out.So hard when you realise they won't step up to the plate and take responsibility .I am going thru a divorce now ,but currently trying to co parent with someone out of "the Inbetweeners " (he is 42 yo)

womblingfree1970 · 29/04/2011 15:36

Patienceobtainsallthings

Mines 47.Theres alot of bad stuff that I haven't posted because I know what the response will be.As I know what my response would be which is what the hell am I doing with him.But I still lnog for it to be ok.

I read a little in the 'Are we Unusual thread' about really loving couple who were so happy together.That was me and H once.We used to look at other couples and know we were different because we enjoyed each others company and couldn't wait to be together.On top of that we were good communicators.Chatted all the time.

Thats all gone now and it kills me inside to know what a mess I'm in and how my kids are now in all this mess.

If he would only see and change it could all be soo much better but he doesn't.

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Patienceobtainsallthings · 29/04/2011 16:03

Same here womble.He was the love of my life,never posted my own thread here ,i would have been shot down in flames.Never thought he would treat me and the kids like this ,but stepping up to the plate would take effort.mine is just a selfish arse.he wants long lies and just to do what he wants when he wants .He broke my heart,we were together 16yrs ,I asked him why he got married and had kids,he said,"that's the million dollar question" just a twat.I think there came a point when I realised I was never going to be happy with him,he wasn't going to change I just had to put up with it or leave.never thought I would be a single mum but there u go,u never know what's in front of u.I guess I live a life now truer to myself,I know its healthier and more stable for the kids and I'm freer to go on without him constantly dragging me down.

Patienceobtainsallthings · 29/04/2011 16:13

Just to say I'm 40 this year ,u dry ur eyes and get on with it.
I couldn't live with a man that disrespected me.I deserve better than that ,I see it as a second chance.My kids are more settled now ,X still completely irresponsible regarding visits and maintenance.just completely selfish,its always all about him .

garlicbutter · 29/04/2011 16:18

He won't change, Womble, because this is what he wants. It's what he wanted when you were all lovely & communicative. He did that to make you stick around while his behaviour got worse and worse. It worked, didn't it? And it's still working.

The 'him' you love is a fake. It was bait to get you hooked.
It might be helpful to work this out forself - make a timeline, see how things got worse over time and how you felt at each step. Then get ANGRY! Nothing will help you make a success of your new life more than a dose of well-placed anger right now.

I hope you're settling after your accident. Take care :)

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