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Really need advice including some i might not want to hear

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Cazm2 · 28/04/2011 12:33

Please bear with me as this may be a long but I have reached breaking point with my DH.We have been together 14 years.

Basically we have always had a few differences of opinion on how much he sees his family specifically his mum and sister. MIL lost her husband 6 and a half years ago. SIL lives at home also now and is 26. we live literally less than 10minutes away. MIL was only child doesnt have her own family but FIL did have family they dont keep contact with her at all really i feel largely becuase of what she is like. She doesnt drive and expects people to be calling in and seeing her. she has lived in the same house for over 40 years and is very much insulated to where she lives. She is very active social live in that she is a chairperson of a local womens club always out in the evenings has a lot of friends always going out etc. season ticket holder for football etc.

SIL works at the same place as my DH and in fact often gives him a lift into work etc sometimes. or sees him at lunchtime.

the crux of this has arisen as there has been huge rows between them all this week about the amount of time they dont see each other. basically SIL is always out with her boyf, away at weekends away or generally busy. MIL is also generally busy or always out. Tried to do something with them last weekend but SIL away and MIl already out although we did MIL for 20 minutes saturday. I am fairly close to my family and i have a large family that tend to do a few things together. We were invited to my nans last sunday with rest of family went over and then called and saw my mum and dad in the evening as they had been away and i hadnt seen them for 2 weeks. this is usually pattern with my family we might have family meet ups every month or so sometimes things are planned where i might see them once a week for two weeks or something. however some weeks i go without seeing my parents and sometimes a week or so without speaking to my mum or dad on the phone.

anyway INlaws are now moaning that we (DH and I) dont do enough with them ie dinner going etc - even though they are the ones that are always busy. we never get asked to do anything with either of them. it is always us making the effort especially where SIL is concerned.

this weekend DH has asked if we drop the plans we have to see SIL tomorrow and then MIL sunday. I said i wasnt that keen as already made plans (not involving my family). could we arrange another weekend. it has just erupted into full blown rows with my DH and I.

He tends to phone and call in and see his mum 4-5 times a week also i think becuase he feels his dad isnt there. SIl also heavily relies on him to do things as well as FIL isnt there. I dont argue with his family but i dont get on with them that great either. MIL will constantly talk about herself everytime we see her never ask how we are or jobs etc? normal conversation. I had MMC before christmas and she came out with some choice phrases. we havent received any support from them with regards to this.

this sounds a bit messed up but i am very upset. I just dont see why there has to be so much emphasis on seeing people at set times and i cant see why now because they have decided they dont spend time as family i have to move my plans. when for months it has been us asking them to do things with us and they are the ones always busy.

its a bit rambled sorry but at a loss to know what to do.

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Pagwatch · 28/04/2011 12:40

Your problem is not about mil and sill wanting to chose when they see you.
It is about your dh thinking you should drop everything to see them and you thinking it is unreasonable.

Tbh I think he is unreasonable to not simply waive this weekend and set up the next available one - especially as he sees both of them all the time anyway.
Has he explained why he thinks that is unreasonable. What is the urgency.
Is he able to explain why he feels so responsible for them. Does he think he has to replace his dad.

It is difficult for you. You are feeling second tier.

Cazm2 · 28/04/2011 13:34

pagwatch. - i think a large part of it is that he feel responsible as his dad isnt here.

i think the urgency is that they have had a massive row about it in the week between them all. they always follow this pattern they all get on with their lives busy busy then every 6 months or so everyone has a moan and it all gets silly.

i just think its nice to do family things but people do have lives and sometimes its not that easy to fit things in its just life.

also i think DH is on the phone and texts and calls in to see his mum too often and it has often caused rows with us. i feel it would be better for him and us if we just had sunday lunch every so often rather than the little visits and calls he feels he has to make.

MIL does like to emtionally blackmail him. she wont phone him if he hasnt phoned for a few days but will complain that she hasnt heard from him. she wont call to our flat but expects him to call in there. i think she actually likes the fact her son does feel responsible and she knows if she clicks her fingers he will drop everyting including me for them.

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Diggs · 28/04/2011 14:00

Id leave him to it and not get involved Op . Carry on with your plans and just see them when you want to , if he wants to see them lots , he can , but you dont have to .

Cazm2 · 28/04/2011 14:18

i would love to diggs but then he says that if i do that he wont do things with my family. and we just get nowhere.
i just get fed up with the pulling all the time. just cos they have had a little moan my weekend has to be changed to fit in with them when for the last however many weekends they havent been able to do things.

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Diggs · 28/04/2011 14:26

Well thats up to him isnt it .
Investing in family is all very nice , but not if its making you miserable . It sounds like youve got too much on and that your familys expectation of you is making things harder than they have to be .

If you dont want to go this weekend , dont , continue with your other plans and state you already had plans . I used to spend ever single weekend pampering to my in laws demands , eventually i just left them to it and stayed out of it , it wasnt enjoyable,

Cazm2 · 28/04/2011 15:40

i think i might just have to do that this week because its a reoccuring issue that we just cant agree on!

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Pagwatch · 28/04/2011 15:51

I get that he is trying to be the male figure but he seems to be putting their needs in front if you which is hard.
I also think the tit for tat thing about not seeing your family if you don't see his is pretty childish. If you have been together for 14 years, does he really have no independent affection for your family, that he would just drop them to spite you?

I am all in favour of compromise but it sounds like he does not want to bend at all. You may just have to let him get on with it. But it shows very poor communication between you. Can you normally sort things - is it just this that results in him sulking?

Cazm2 · 28/04/2011 16:44

to be honest we dont have the greatest of communication and since i lost the baby this has got worse. he does get on with my family in fact plays tennis with my dad occastionally plays same football team as my brother. but we dont see them as excessively as he sees his M or S. He just throws this back in my face when i say that i have made an effort with his family. Asked them for dinner or even asked SIL numberous times to do things including her boyf but then never ever ask back or invite us to do anything. i have sort of given up trying with them. i think it appears we do a lot with my family when in reality we dont its just my family are now bigger and we get invited to do things - we dont always do them. my family having a wedding party tomorrow i have declined as i know we saw them last sunday and didnt want to add more fire to the in law problem.

however sil and mil both went ahead and made their own plans for this weekend without asking us to do anything but for some reason it has just got out of control now.

i struggle with SIL and MIL becuase of the pressure they put on DH but i also realise that a lot of this he creates himself but we always headbutt a wall when it comes to this issue. we did try relate but couldnt afford to pay for the sessions.

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Pagwatch · 28/04/2011 18:37

Oh, I'm really sorry . I am no help.
If you can't communicate then it will be difficult to work through it.

And I am sorry about your baby too.

TheOriginalFAB · 28/04/2011 18:45

I am sorry about your loss too Sad.

When DH and I moved we lived quite close to his parents and they would invite themselves over every weekend. I would say Saturdays to get it over with and Dh would agree but it shouldn't be like that and in the end we did say no more and saw them less.

His father phones at least 3 times a week and I don't know why as there isn't really anything to tell them. It is his family though and I would never say he couldn't see or speak to them.

We just had to be a bit more selfish and claim some time back.

Cazm2 · 28/04/2011 20:48

thanks fab. i wont ever say he shouldnt speak to them but i do feel that pretty much phoning, calling in or texting most days with MIL is drving me to distraction. apart from the fact SIL works in the same building also and will sometimes go to lunch with him or lift to work with him. i dont think i am beign unreasonable to ask that contact might be different or less. i would rather we all did things like dinner every so often or something. they dont ahve anything to talk about its constant repeatativeness.

MIL is very much self involved she doesnt ask either of us about our lives or how we are general conversation pretty much same as SIL just very self absorbed i find it very difficult to spend time with people that you cant engage in two way conversation with.

thanks for all your advice it just helps getting it all out!

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