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The aftermath of my affair - please help.

41 replies

andwhatnow · 10/04/2011 09:47

I have made a major cock up in my life and am at a profound loss of what to do and how to sort it. I have been with dh for 16 years, we have a son aged 10 and daughter aged 13. We met when I was 20 (he is a couple of years older). Until recently, I imagine that people looking in thought we had it all. We both have decent jobs that we work hard at. I have a fantastic family and circle of friends. We have a nice house and are lucky to have enough money to pursue some hobbies. Our relationship on the whole, has been built on a foundation of friendship. We are very different people in some respects, such as in our political views and outlook on the world; at times this has caused arguments ? but in other ways it has worked, as dh is very calm and laid back which almost compliments my madness! Dh has always been very much devoted to me (sounds sad I know) and very demonstrative in his feelings and very sure of his feelings for the whole time we?ve been together. I am naturally, a closed person, who finds it hard to trust and who grew to love dh over time.

About three years ago, things started going awry. I know with hindsight, it is easy to look back and hear the alarm bells, whereas at the time, you do not realise the significance of them. We ended up moving (not that far from where we originally were) for dh?s job. We had massive disagreements over the type of house we wanted and it was very stressful because we needed to move quickly. I have suffered two major bereavements ? a good friend and a parent, who both died prematurely. My job, although I enjoy it immensely, has become more stressful, higher workload etc. A step parent has been ill emotionally and needed lots of support. I suffered some depression after the bereavements, which I think might be lingering. For about 18 months life has been an uphill struggle emotionally for months. Okay, we?re okay financially, but that?s not everything is it? Looking back, I can see that dh and I were growing apart. I know that?s such a cliché but its true. I feel that dh was trying to support me emotionally, but for whatever reason, I was still struggling. I began questioning our relationship and realised I was changing very much as a person.

I know what you are all going to say, but onto the scene steps an old friend. Someone I had known years ago from college. We had clicked years ago, and he had recently separated from his partner. We chatted, exchanged numbers (at the time, I had no romantic feelings). I?m not going to go into the sordid details of everything else, but over a period of a couple of months, things went further. I stopped it, he got a job overseas for a few months. Dh suspected things. Gradually, I have told dh what happened. He has reacted reasonably well, although is obviously gutted. The other man returned last November. We don?t have contact, although I see him occasionally out and about. Dh feels that he cannot trust me, but wants it to work. I want to want it to work if that makes sense. But a part of me, feels that I do not want it enough. I don?t envisage myself with the other person. I don?t see the world through rose tinted glasses, and think that so much hurt is already behind us, that it would be unlikely to work. The grass isn?t greener and all that.

I feel awful about everything, but cannot get this love back for dh. I love him as a friend, and as my son?s fantastic father. I want to love him like before. I feel that I?m in such a state ? I don?t even know who I am anymore ? that I?m not in a position to sort this. And that?s crazy, considering I caused it all. My gut feeling is to be on my own, but we obviously have our children to consider. I have offered to move out and think I would if it weren?t for the children. And this would just be like running away wouldn?t it. I hate the fact that I got on so well with the other person. I hate the fact that I?ve been weak and that I can?t feel what I should for dh. I have thought and thought about what happened before I became attracted to the other man, and know that dh and I were having problems. But why couldn?t I speak to dh instead of doing what I did? I have had counselling for a while. The counsellor so far, has said that the crux of it now, is to do what I feel I need to do (!) , to not feel that I should stay with dh if I really don?t want to. But we were such good friends. I know in some ways, that the decision might already be made. I don?t think dh will ever trust me and it doesn?t help that he obviously knows the other man, and could bump into him.
I know I have made this mess and hate myself for it. How on earth do I sort it all out?

OP posts:
expatinscotland · 11/04/2011 14:57

Exactly, Alouise and garlicbutter!

cabbageroses · 11/04/2011 14:57

expat- did i say that bbird was not allowed to express an opinion? No.

did he ask you to butt in and defend him? no.

am I allowed to challenge a poster's viewpoint? yes.

am I allowed on a DISCUSSION forum to hold other opinions. yes.

why have you suddenly appointed yourself as chief moderator ?

expatinscotland · 11/04/2011 15:00

Keep getting more and more aggro, cabbage. Keep going. It only shows yourself up.

OP, you really should continue with the counselling. He needs to go, too. Both of you together and separate would probably be best.

wannaBe · 11/04/2011 15:12

I agree with bbird and expat. If this were a man posting about his affair, or a woman posting about her h's affair the response would be different and the man would get absolutely no sympathy.

I do agree that having an affair is never black and white, and that there are often factors which lead someone to having an affair. However, while there are reasons why people have affairs, reasons that you can use to help reconcile what you have done, there are no justifications.

Op - you had an affair. You are the one in the wrong here, and you need to learn to live with that. But tbh it doesn't seem as if you regret having the affair - you're not begging your dh's forgiveness or doing whatever it takes to show him that you love him and want to stay together. Why not?

You say your dh doesn't trust you - well tbh he has good reason not to, doesn't he? Trust can be rebuilt, but it takes time and commitment, and tbh that commitment has to come from you. While you're not prepared to commit to staying in your marriage you're not giving your dh the assurance that you can be trusted again and that you won't get involved with someone else again. Until you can commit yourself to staying with your marriage you have no right to expect your dh's trust or forgiveness. And even then, the ultimate decision as to whether you stay together is down to your dh. He has every right to leave you now and the responsibility would be down to you.

However, if you can't make that commitment then you need to walk away and spare your dh (and your children) any more hurt than you have already put them through.

bbird1 · 11/04/2011 15:31

WannaBe - you put things far more eloquently than I could have.
Just one more factor in all this - the 'DH' here doesnt come across very well. I know I will get a volley of abuse for saying this but, Jesus, if my missis did what she had done I wouldnt have "reacted reasonably well". I would have flipped.
Questions for andwhatnow - do you have any respect for your DH? What would you do if he said he was upping and leaving - how would you feel? And what would you do if another old flame came back into your life?

andwhatnow · 11/04/2011 15:35

Thank you for all your responses. expat and wannabe, I understand exactly what you are saying. I have now booked some more counselling and have told dh my intentions to try and sort my head out. I know I have made a big mistake and am frankly, disgusted with myself. I also need to back track however, and work out what went wrong and why. My only saving grace is that I have now been completely honest with dh and am still now being honest about my confusion.

OP posts:
expatinscotland · 11/04/2011 16:25

It's a start, OP. It's all you can do for now, and give your DH space as well, to figure out how he needs to deal with this, too.

I hope you two are going for counselling, both alone and together.

I know WWIFN always recommends a book called 'Not Just Friends'. Hopefully she will be along as well.

maandpa · 12/04/2011 19:37

You could be feeling low because you are grieving for the loss of OM? His support, friendship, the excitement of an illicit love affair, the secrecy?

Give yourself time to get over OM and the pining for him will lessen.

Your DH has not made any hasty decisions. Which is a good thing I think.

Get some councelling for the bereavements you have suffered (CRUZ). Try to reduce the stressful aspects of your life and work where possible.

Make time for you and DH to do the hobbies you enjoy together, and spend time together, meals out, country walks etc, so that you can talk.

Good luck.

andwhatnow · 12/04/2011 22:36

Thanks maandpa. I have also been reading the Shirley Glass book which is enlightening in some aspects. I can see how certain events led to this and can only take one day at a time.

OP posts:
maandpa · 13/04/2011 18:46

I'm glad you are reading Shirley Glass. Her insight and advice is so good. And you can work on things with your DH using this book.

You can get over OM. Be nice to yourself and nice to your DH.

Yes, take one day at a time.

M&P

harryseaside · 13/04/2011 22:41

hello andwhatnow

I have been in a similar position. My advice is - whatever you choose will have good parts and bad parts - you will not ever discover whether one way will have been better than the other. Also - don't make your decision based on fear (e.g. fear of the same thing happening again). Finally - this is your difficult time - a time you will look back on and wonder how you coped, but it will pass. Whatever decision you make, this will lift and you won't be defined by your indecision and anxiety anymore.

One way to reduce the pressure in the short term is to choose a time period, say 6 months, and agree with your DH to work on your reltionship as hard as you can for that time. Then at the end of the 6 months decide if you'd like another 6, or if you have given all you can.

Good luck.

andwhatnow · 14/04/2011 00:45

Thank you harryseaside for your thoughtful advice.

I am realising slowly (I think) that like you say, there is no decision that will be all 'good'. If I split with dh, there is so much impact on the children and of course on dh and myself. I will have lost a good husband and a very good friend. If I stay with dh, I know that our relationship can never be the same. I have changed and what I have done has caused our relationship to change. And I write it in those terms because dh is still very keen to stay together.

I would say I am already feeling a little less anxious than I was, but, and I don't know if this is normal - I feel very numb and am finding it hard to feel anything about anyone (apart from the children). Is this some sort of shut down? Shouldn't my heart be breaking at the sight of my sad dh? I am very sad and obviously not happy, but shouldn't I be 'feeling' more?

OP posts:
maandpa · 14/04/2011 08:32

Its shock I think. Back later.

harryseaside · 14/04/2011 14:09

I felt awful when all my DH wanted to do was fix things, and all I felt was empty. I didn't feel I could really hug him or say nice things because everything was flat. I wasn't able to enjoy things like the Spring coming, or friends' good news, the only thing I could enjoy was my son. It felt like I would never really feel happy again.

Now I have my son half the week (other half with my exH), I m very happy with a new partner, and my exH has just got engaged. We are all so much happier, including our son. None of the fears I had came to pass. My ex and I are on friendly terms and occasionally meet up for a pint to talk about our son. It is still hard sometimes as we have different perspectives on some things, but we manage.

Your heart may still break - but not until later. You are holding the cards and your DH sounds like he is desperate to hold on to you - my situation was the same. I wonder if he suddenly decided you should split up, you might start to feel panic. If you'd like to chat more about this, you are welcome to mesage me privately (I am new here - I don't know how that works).

SueSylvesterforPM · 14/04/2011 15:58

Its always interesting to see the huge gap of response in 'i'vr had an affair' and my p has had an affair'

OP i think you're very brave to be so open and you do seem remorseful which is the most important thing and you ended it! keep that in mind.

thebody · 14/04/2011 16:41

Back to the poster.. I think you experienced passionate good sex . lets face it sex with the same man has to be worked on... you felt flattered that this guy fancied you and it was all hot and exciting.....now its time to get back to reality...

why on earth you told him is beyond me really..

stop being so self absorbed and self indulgent and pay your poor dh some attention

you had an affair because you were bored and too settled.. spice it up with dh.....

if you cant be bothered to make it work or even understand how much hurt you have caused then your dh is better off without you.!!!!

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