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awful relationship, long sorry!

62 replies

reasonstobecheerful · 24/03/2011 08:26

This is my first post and I apologise for the length in advance, I'm in my 40s and my partner is 9 yrs younger than me, he has a back problem and stays in bed all day every day, very very rarely gets up and if he does for any reason he goes straight back to bed again, he doesn't eat downstairs but eats dinner in bed not before 11pm, eats all meals in bed, although he can come down to cook food, I don't do this for him. He is full of excuses why he can't spend time out of the bedroom, armchairs are not comfortable, the dog looks at him(!) he doesn't like what I have on the tv. etc

We have no social life whatsoever, he may come shopping occasionally but this usually ends up with him losing his temper although he likes to control what food we buy and will provide a shopping list if he does not come with me.

I work two part time jobs, very early morning and evening and do everything in the house, I don't exactly expect gratitude but some acknowledgment perhaps. I've been told the house is my problem as he keeps to his room so it's nothing to do with him. Although will still criticise the way I do things around the house. He sleeps at all odd hours and expects quiet in the house if he is sleeping.

We have separate bedrooms as he refused to turn tv off or even down so I could go to sleep in order to be up early for work.He takes prescription drugs (morphine) and smokes cannabis (which he gets himself, I don't get it for him)

He is moody, snappy, rude, verbally aggressive, physically intimidating, will shout, rant, scream, slam doors, throw my food away (cooked food on plate snatched off me and binned) will switch off internet access and tv signal to punish me, will sulk for days on end. The slightest thing can upset him he has written lists of my faults to discuss point by point. EVERYTHING is my fault.

He doesn't like me working (working is for mugs) and especially doesn't like me working anywhere where I might encounter men, has told me I need to change jobs as I have a male colleague who may turn out to be a rapist and if I am raped he will have no sympathy for me and will leave me, he has accused me of cheating with said work colleague and tries to control what clothes I wear to work.
Any phone call that is a wrong number is treated as suspicious and possible evidence that I am up to no good.

He tells me I am fat, ugly, useless, pathetic, stupid, a bully, that I think I am superior, I know it all, I talk down to him, I am the rudest person he has ever met, I am a whore, I am frigid, that he feels sorry for my next victim, that I am mentally ill and need a lot of help. Says I play silly mind games .He says I am using him for money and company (!!) and mocks and belittles the job I do.

His cat rules the house, cat may not be disturbed at any time, cleaning for example must wait till the cat moves! cat must have complete peace to eat in the kitchen, must not have loud noises disturbing cat whilst cat sleeps, has almost come to blows with neighbours over the cat when one of them shooed it away (I am a big ainimal over but this is over the top) it seems the cat is an extension of himself and the same rules apply to both of them.

I feel as if I'm on eggshells all the time, I spend almost all of my time on my own, he would like me to sit upstairs in the bedroom with him ideally. I've been told I won't be happy until I have him 'dancing attendance' on me.
He constantly criticises me, undermines me, stonewalls me, demands I Ieave the room if I try to talk about anything he doesn't like (ie his behaviour) he absolutely hates being contradicted and takes anyone disagreeing with him on any subject as a personal affront. He will come into the bedroom when I've gone to bed to try and carry on an argument, pull the covers off the bed, switch the light on then slam out again.
I feel I have no real autonomy, that I'm just here to skivvy then sit quietly until something else needs doing, I often feel I have nothing but this to look forward to and I get no emotional support whatsoever from him.

I just can't bear the sight of a grown man under a duvet on a permanent basis, he lives like a sulky teenager, spending all his time in a dark stuffy bedroom with everything he needs to hand, taking all his meals up there and shoving the dirty dishes under the bed, leaving the sheets on far too long before changing them. He hasn't any friends, he's fallen out with the few he did have, his family live miles away, they know how he lives but don't say anything about it which makes it seem as if I'm the only person who has a problem with it.
This week alone I've been called an ugly fat c**t 3 times, had a door slammed in my face twice, a full hotwater bottle thrown at my head, ok it's not hard but it is heavy, he's now barricaded in the bedroom having moved furniture in front of the door and told me his parents have every sympathy with him and can't understand why he's still with me as I'm that difficult to live with and am unlike anyone he's ever met. He reduced me to a sobbing wreck one evening this week so I couldn't go to work and lost money.

I KNOW I need to get out of this situation, my name is on the tenancy agreement not his but the only thing stopping me is money, I would be in trouble straight away, even with housing benefit, I've already been to CAB and women's resource centre and the money just doesn't add up to be able to live, any more work I do will be taken off my housing benefit so it's not as simple as getting another job. I'm really afraid to just kick him out and try to go it on my own, I have no savings to even cushion things for a month or so. And above all I hate sounding so pathetic but I can't take any more of this yet feel I can't get out of it. I have a grownup son who is studying part time, working full time and saving up for a wedding, he's very sympathetic about what he knows, he knows my partner can be 'difficult', I'm actually too embarrassed to tell him the whole thing and burden him with it when he doesn't know what to do to help. If I had a friend in this situation I'd tell them in no uncertain terms to get out, I'm disgusted and disappointed with myself that I haven't already. Thanks for reading I just needed to write this all down.

OP posts:
DuelingFanjo · 24/03/2011 10:06

Do you have kids? (sorry if I missed that in your OP)

If not then if you really can' kick himout, look for a new place. You can make savings as a single person, less council tax, less food etc.

I personally would tell him to go.

MooMooFarm · 24/03/2011 10:12

So sorry for you OP. But there are positives in this - you have no children with him, you are not 'tied' to him either by marriage or mortgage/property ownership.

So in theory there is nothing stopping you giving notice on the flat, moving your stuff out and never having to see is miserable abusive face again.

I know in practice it's not so easy - he will have worn you down and taken away your confidence, but you have a life to get on with - you have a job and a future that can only be better than what you have now. Please take a step today - start packing some stuff, or start looking at smaller flats you can afford the rent on yourself.

You will feel so much better just for making the plans, honestly.

Good luck

warthog · 24/03/2011 10:41

i also don't understand how you can be doing all the work, bringing in all the money and yet not afford to leave? is he bringing in income of some sort?

i have NEVER in all my time here on mn seen such a prime example of a cocklodger as this guy.

time to kick him out!!!!!!!

madonnawhore · 24/03/2011 10:47

This doesn't sound like a relationship, this sounds like a living nightmare.

Your 'lodger' sounds like apart from the physical health issues, he has some serious mental health issues and addiction problems too.

What is there worth staying for? If I were you I'd just ditch the utter waste of space and get on with your life.

Poor you. Such a shame that you've ended up here, but you don't have to stay.

G1nger · 24/03/2011 10:49

I'm actually scared for you, OP. He clearly has serious mental health issues and I believe you should be nervous of being around him. What's he capable of, really? Get out, get out, get out.

MooMooFarm · 24/03/2011 11:00

The OP mentioned something about housing benefit. So maybe she can only afford to live where she is because of benefits he's bringing in?

Whatever it is, it's not worth it, anyway. OP you need to get away from him. And be prepared for him to get nastier (if that's possible) when he gets wind of it. In your position I would give notice, get my stuff together now and leave him to it.

And make sure you go somewhere he doesn't know about.

MooMooFarm · 24/03/2011 11:01

Don't know what's going wrong everytime I try to 'bold' something btw

Conflugenglugen · 24/03/2011 11:07

Sweetheart, look at what you wrote here:

"He tells me I am fat, ugly, useless, pathetic, stupid, a bully, that I think I am superior, I know it all, I talk down to him, I am the rudest person he has ever met, I am a whore, I am frigid, that he feels sorry for my next victim, that I am mentally ill and need a lot of help. Says I play silly mind games .He says I am using him for money and company (!!) and mocks and belittles the job I do."

I am sure you know this, but it might be worth pointing out:

When he is with you and he speaks to you like this, it is not you he is speaking to, but himself.

Barring perhaps one or two adjectives, he is everything that he accuses you of being. This has nothing to do with you. The problem comes when you reach a point where you believe it all enough to stay around. You don't have to feed his self-loathing. You can break free.

Strength!

reasonstobecheerful · 24/03/2011 12:06

Thanks so much for all the replies. In answer to a few questions we have a 2 bed house, I should get some depsoti back but there's a clause where all outstanding utility bills have to be paid in full at the end of the tenancy and there's a fair amount outstanding which we're trying to pay off so I don't know really what would happen with the deposit.
I earn £600 a month and the rent currently is £675, even with HB it would be virtually impossible to stay here, I would consider a houseshare but I have a cat (my own cat who is not the spoiled little prince cat!) and a very old frail dog who I do realise may not be here much longer but at present has to be taken care of. I think ideally I'd like to stay here and get a lodger so am thinking of that.
I have no other relatives apart from my son.
Partner has just calmly informed me we cannot live together, although he will take no blame for any of it, and we need to make plans to split up. I suppose that is something. Thanks very much again.

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Kiwinyc · 24/03/2011 12:16

You will be well rid of him.

PLEASE gather what little self esteem you have left and break free of his hideous, toxic, abusive, influence. Tell yourself, as we are tell you, YOU DESERVE BETTER.

Get rid of him and get a lodger and start to breathe again.

We are all here to support you through through it. You CAN DO IT!

G1nger · 24/03/2011 12:21

Good. Great. This makes it easier for you to get away. He doesn't need to take any blame for it - if he was a normal person who might take blame, he wouldn't have done any of this. We're all here telling you he's a nut-job - let that be enough ;)

jesuswhatnext · 24/03/2011 12:25

ok, so he says you cant live together anymore and need to make plans - tell him you've already made a plan, pack his bags and cat food and show him the door! - he is a nasty piece of work who is sucking your life away - for gods sake dont let him do anymore!

sounds hard, but once you start, the adrenaline will carry you though!, you are a bright intelligent woman who deserves a damn sight more than this knobend!

chuffinheck · 24/03/2011 12:38

Sod the blame, just get him out of there ! (Then change the locks)

NicknameTaken · 24/03/2011 12:39

It does sound like this is coming to an end, and I'm really glad for you. I totally understand why you feel so sapped of energy and unable to act - he has you continually on the defensive, perpetually dealing with the next attack, so that you have little left to deal with longer-term.

Honestly, once he's out of your life, your energy and strength will come back.

So is he planning to leave? I hope he'll just go, but I agree that a house-share for you would be a real possibility. You may well be able to find a house-share where pets are okay, or a bedsit/one-room flat.

You're not far from freedom!

cestlavielife · 24/03/2011 12:43

"Partner has just calmly informed me we cannot live together,"

good.

send in your notice to quit today and both go your separate ways.

MinnieBar · 24/03/2011 12:43

Great - tell him he's got a week to get his stuff together, advertise for someone else now and FGS CHANGE THE LOCKS when he's gone.

If he thinks he's staying and you're going, just smile sweetly and point out his name isn't on the tenancy, so should you call the police now or later?

QuintessentialShadows · 24/03/2011 12:56

Dont worry about the blame. Just agree with him that the relationship is not working and you should move apart.

reasonstobecheerful · 24/03/2011 13:02

Nicknametaken you said: I totally understand why you feel so sapped of energy and unable to act - he has you continually on the defensive, perpetually dealing with the next attack, so that you have little left to deal with longer-term.

That is just so true, I'm just waiting all the time for the next kicking-off to start and when it's not happening I just feel relieved, I'm mentally exhausted. He gets to decide the way everything's going, you could say we get on ok as long as I keep my mouth shut. I'm thinking how I need to act, I know I do need to act.

OP posts:
waterrat · 24/03/2011 13:09

I think you need Rl support here - open up to somebody, neighbour, friend, relative - and tell them you need to make a plan. Sit down and make a practical plan - and remember, money, utilities, debt - they can seem overwhelming, I know - but in the end they are not important, there are no debtors prisons - what is important is your safety and well being. The moment this man is gone, you will be free of a huge weight.

But will he go? Im worried that he has nothing and nowhere to go so will expect you to go.

It must be like living with a huge poisonous shadow over you. I'm so glad you are going to escape this.

have you spoken to womens aid at all?

NicknameTaken · 24/03/2011 13:20

Reasonstobecheerful - oh, I've been there myself. And the last stage of ending it, that's the most exhausting of all. But it's great when it's finished (like having a baby, really).

waterrat is right about RL support and about making a plan. Even if he says he wants to end it, he may not be prepared to take any practical steps. Don't let him set the schedule. Can you think through the steps of

Plan a) getting him out of your flat, you staying on

Plan b) you moving out (losing your deposit does not matter in the long run - cheap at the price!)

Anniegetyourgun · 24/03/2011 13:22

I don't actually believe he is willing to separate. He's seen you're at the end of your tether and is using reverse psychology, to which you're supposed to weep and wail and say can't we try again etc. He won't like it one bit once he realises you agree.

wonkeydonkies · 24/03/2011 13:53

what did you say in reply to his wanting to split up?

Tanee58 · 24/03/2011 14:14

Oh, this is a horrible situation - what a ghastly piece of less than humanity he is. I think Annie's spot on (Hi Annie Smile!) - he's sense you've reached your limit and is hoping, by jumping in before you do, that you will beg him to stay - I really hope you didn't! It sounds like he has to be in control of everything, even the breakup - it is deffo time that YOU took control of your life back. As for making plans, give him a deadline to leave (and it MUST be him leaving, as the tenancy is yours) - and you must be absolutely firm about it. If he doesn't have anywhere to leave, come the deadline, he will just have to find a friend, and if he kicks off, call the police. Two weeks at the very MOST should give him time to find another flat. If, at the end of that time, he's still not found anywhere, pack his bags and change the locks. He's an adult and will have to sort himself out. Get a lodger to boost your income. You will find all this empowering and you deserve better. Just think how much you, your cat and your dog will appreciate having your home, your life and your peace of mind back.

sundayrose10 · 24/03/2011 14:34

Are we as women so downtrodden that we need confirmation from others that something like this is NOT normal? I'm not having a go at you op, but it's ridiculous what grown women will put up with.

I am sick and tired of this almost being the norm on here...it seriously could not be me. No amount of 'no self confidence/ so much self hate' can excuse this. It?s right in your face. These men have it made. Then we bring kids into this madness. Sorry but I?m reserving my sympathy for the kids?they have NO choice. YOU DO and you know it.

MooMooFarm · 24/03/2011 14:38

sundayrose10 but you are having a go at OP. How does this help?