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Feel trapped and very unhappy....

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kirstyg1 · 22/03/2011 10:29

Good morning ladies dont know if any of you would be able to offer some advice but really feel the need to let all of this out. So thank you for reading. I have been with my dh since I was 16 Im now 31 and we have had our ups and downs in this time but the last 18months I feel our relationship has been on a downward spiral and I dont know what to do about it. My dh decided to take redundancy in june 09 and since then has only worked from sep 10 to jan 10 he worked nights which wasn't ideal as it meant we spent no time together either as a couple or a family. In January he decided it wasn't for him and now he is back to being at home all the time not doing anything round the house and staying in bed in the morning if im off work or going back to bed once he has done the school run. I work shifts and do 30 hours a week and I find it really difficult to keep up with all the housework and spending quality time with the kids. I feel like Iam always nagging him to do something and I really resent him for not helping or doing anything about getting a job. He flys off the handle on regular occassions shouting and swearing even when kids are there. I feel like we all deserve more than this but dont know how to move forward. I cant keep living together like this I am so unhappy but as title says I feel trapped....

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jellybelly25 · 22/03/2011 10:32

It sounds like he might be a bit depressed - it must be very hard for him to not have a job and he may have lost confidence and is scared to put himself out there. Perhaps he needs to talk to the GP about it a bit?

That said, it's no good to be making everyone else miserable and if he is at home he absolutely should be doing stuff around the house - it is totally unfair and you are losing your respect for him as your partner. Have you told him how you feel? Have you asked him why he doesn't help out?

kirstyg1 · 22/03/2011 10:41

Hi jellybelly thanks for the quick response...I have spoke to him about how I feel he is depressed and he should speak to the GP and at the time he agreed but again did nothing about it then he started working and it all changed because he was either working or sleeping and didn't have chance to do any housework. I have tried to tell him how I feel but cant seem to find the words as he just gets really angry and I feel like I kicking him when he is down so to speak. However I feel I have supported him for long enough now this has been going on for nearly two years and I am totally fed up of having no money and feeling like I am the only one working or doing anything....do you think I am being unreasonable and to hard??

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jellybelly25 · 22/03/2011 10:55

It is a bit harsh if he is depressed, but like I said, you've lost your respect for him and you will stop loving him if that carries on. It's an unequal relationship at the moment and it's making you angry.

But it looks like you are going to have to help him to get back on track without being too critical. Sit with him and book the GP appointment together. Do job searches with him - ask him what he wants to do. If you show him your support maybe he'll appreciate it and make more effort. Being broke drives such a wedge between people, it's so sad...

Also, ignore the housework for a while and then tell him you are really struggling - look at the mess. If you are coping with it he has no reason to do it does he? (That would be my approach anyway!!)

What does he get angry with you about?

kirstyg1 · 22/03/2011 11:40

That is a really good idea jellybelly about the housework maybe I should stop doing it and show him how hard I am finding it all...he can get angry at anything he hates it if I show him jobs on the web and he has no idea what he wants to do. I am angry at the moment as its my day off and yet again he is in bed because he couldn't be bothered to come to school so went back to bed while I dropped kids off came home and doing housework in between being on here of course...an example of him losing his temper when the kids are about was last night he was putting out tea and I was doing youngest dds reading books for school with her he wanted a hand so I finished off with dd took all of about 20 seconds andbecause I didn't answer him or go straight in the kitchen he came storming in the front room swearing at me he was so angry he goes from normal to angry in a split second not nice at all. So I asked him not to speak to me like that and he continued ranting for a bit then I get a mumbled apology but then in the next breath well I didn't want to ruin the tea did I coz then you would moan

:( I find it really hard to deal with him when he is like this because I dont want the dds seeing or hearing this so try to bite my tongue and not argue back but I am finiding it increasingly difficult. I just want a better life for my girls its not right for them to be around us like this however they absolutley idolise their dad think that is one of the reasons why I feel so trapped.

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jellybelly25 · 22/03/2011 11:51

How old are your dds? You can always respond by saying 'you are really upsetting and scaring me and I don't know how to respond to you when you shout and swear' which is both telling him, and them, how you feel. IT sounds like you are standing up for yourself though. Even if they do idolise him, they will know that it is unacceptable to shout and swear at you...

Perhaps you need to separate for a while then? It sounds like he's really taking out his feelings on you which is no good at all...

kirstyg1 · 22/03/2011 12:01

My dd's are 9 and 6 and I do stand up for myself your right but its not fair for them to see and when he has behaved like this 5 minutes later he expects everything to be back to normal and Im finding it hard to forget all the times its happened and to even have a civilised conversation with him but want to forget it because like last night we were at the table with the girls eating tea so didn't want to have a horrible atmoshphere. Jellybelly you talk a lot of sense and you are giving a balanced opinion which is fantastic thank you...I think that may be an option but dont know how to go about it..I didn't think I wanted that but Iam really not to sure anymore and it upsets and scares me just dont know what to do for the best for everyone.

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cestlavielife · 22/03/2011 12:25

sleeping a lot can be sign of depression.

you need ot tell him straight - please get help go see GP, otherwise you going to have to leave for a while til you sort yourself out.

GP will do a depresion quesiotnnaire with him and will see from there where to go. eg g can prescibe active health ie free memberhsip to local gym special classes etc

staying at home all day sleeping isnt going to do him any good long term

jeckadeck · 22/03/2011 12:43

I sympathize as I have been through similar -- DH was unemployed for best part of 18 months until about a year ago and appallingly depressed about it. We didnt have children at the time but there were other stress factors involved like us having a huge debt pile and living in a foreign country. It was pretty rough and put a huge, though thankfully temporary, strain on our marriage.

Ultimately the thing which snapped my DH out of it was finding work, initially part time and then more recently a really nice full time job. But I agree that you have to walk on eggshells all the time with depression -- on the one hand you want to show sympathy, not criticize or nag but on the other hand depression causes people to be very self-centred and get into negative patterns and you want to jolt them out of it and get them to stop dwelling on negatives.

If I can offer two pieces of advice they would be these: a) try not to criticize him personally for not having a job -- it's immensely undermining, particularly for a man, even if done with good intentions. Try to frame everything in constructive ways: let me help you do this, rather than why don't you do that, etc. Not easy, particularly when you've borne the brunt of a rant, and the sleeping all day thing is very unproductive, but framing it this way helps him remember you're not the enemy. At this point he may feel very isolated and you may be the only friend he has.

Also, get him to a GP, even if its done by stealth. Getting a second opinion will a) bring home to him that he is actually depressed and that its noticeable to others and therefore probably having a significant effect on his family and b) the GP may be able to offer practical advice for dealing with the stress. But the first thing is key -- in my experience men tend to go into denial mode about depression and think they can handle everything on their own or with their spouse. Having a professional third party tell them otherwise will force them to confront it.

Good luck and remember it will pass.

jellybelly25 · 22/03/2011 13:19

I agree with cestlavie and jeck - you could say that you are prepared to help and support him (and try not to be too critical of him personally) but only if he does go to the GP, and gets out of bed to help you out. Otherwise you can't live with him anymore.

The girls are big enough to have it explained to them that daddy is very unhappy at the moment because he doesn't have a job, and it's making him fight with you, so while he's so unhappy, you need to live somewhere else so he can try to get better.

kirstyg1 · 22/03/2011 13:43

Thanks for all the advice now I just need to find the courage to put it into words and speak to him its not that I dont love him or care either think I may seem a bit uncaring its just that its so soul destroying to come home from work and find the house in a complete mess and dh say he fell asleep after the school run and only just made it to pick them up coz he was still asleep!! I work really hard in my job and dont feel like coming home to start cleaning the house but it doesn't seem to bother him he can just live in it I cant. I probably need to chill a bit and leave it but it drives me insaine. He has just got up now woke early because I have had the hoover on and I cant even talk to him properly god help us I know it needs saying but really dont know how to start....

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jellybelly25 · 22/03/2011 13:51

Good luck... I hope you sort it somehow.

SpringchickenGoldBrass · 22/03/2011 15:04

Depressed, my arse. Lazy, cocklodging parasite is more like it. You;ve been supporting him for two years and he has done fuck all? Is he that good in bed? Somehow I doubt it.
First, look up benefits etc as to what you would be entitled to as a single parent. Then check out the position WRT your house - if it's bought, are both names on the mortgage? If it's rented, whose name is the tenancy in? Make sure you have all the facts.
Then tell him that he either sorts himself out or leaves the house. It is not fair for you (or the DC) to live like this - with the person who is contributing nothing being the one whose moods control the household.

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