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Cheeky friend again

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ItsGrimUpNorth · 09/03/2011 17:51

Our dds are friends. Our boys are friends too. Through school. Only my friend takes the p*ss when it comes to school pick ups, play dates etc. I've posted about her chutzpah before.

I was feeling really resentful as I felt she was using me for extra childcare so I backed off totally. She definitely understood why.

I've since watched other people do things for her willingly. She seems to get lots of other people to do things for her without doing much back for them. That's my experience of her anyway.

I don't care what she does with other people - I find it amusing in a way because I've extricated myself from that. Thank goodness.

This week, I did help her out because she had to pick up her mum from the airport which would clash with school pick up. I picked up her ds home along with mine, gave them supper and took them to their rugby group. That's fine. I know she'll never do the same for me but she was in a fix. Except I don't know why her mum got a flight that landed at such an inconvenient time.

The previous week, another mum at the rugby group had offered to give my ds a lift home because she saw that I have two other dcs younger than my ds who struggle to stay up that late. I had gratefully agreed but then decided to stay for the rugby group anyway with my other 2 dcs as they seemed to be fine. This very kind mum then took my 'friend's' ds home saying my friend had called her after she'd heard of her offer to take my ds home. I had stupidly told my 'friend' of this woman's kindness.

I was so annoyed about this because my 'friend' has an au pair and that night, she had her mother staying with her both of whom could have watched her other dcs when she picked up her ds from rugby. I was annoyed because I didn't want this kind woman thinking I was the type to take advantage of people i.e. lumped with my 'friend'.

Now my friend wants her dd to come and play at our house with my dd. They are pals but I don't want this play date because it's just a chance for my friend to dump her child on me as she used to. She would never ever offer to do the same for me. If I asked her, she would wriggle and say she was busy.

So, I've cancelled the play date because I realise that I'm getting back into the old ways where I was resentful that I was doing so much for her - she'd call me almost every day at school pick up time, asking me to pick up one or other of her children.

It's ok, isn't it? I mean the dds will see each other at school. I just want to maintain a distance between me and this 'friend' because well, friendship to her doesn't really mean hanging out etc. It means lots of favours. What is the etiquette for play dates anyway?

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HecateTheCrone · 09/03/2011 17:54

I think you are doing the right thing.

Maintain that distance.

Doha · 09/03/2011 18:05

Yes you definatly did the right thing.

macdoodle · 09/03/2011 18:38

If she wants her dd to play with hers then she invites your dd to HER house. That's the way it works. You don't invite yourself to someone else's house.

ItsGrimUpNorth · 09/03/2011 18:40

I'm concerned for my dd though.

She loves this girl and gets terribly upset when she sees her going off with other mums and their dds at pick up because my 'friend' has arranged for that.

I know it's just life etc and dd will have to get used to it but it just seems unfair that because this woman takes the p*ss, I can't just be normal and enjoy the usual give and take when it comes to play date.

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throckenholt · 09/03/2011 18:48

I would let them have the occasional play session at yours - and don't expect it to be reciprocated - just don't make it too frequent - say maybe once every 2-3 weeks.

That way DD is happy and you don't feel used.

squeakytoy · 09/03/2011 18:51

how old is your DD?

ItsGrimUpNorth · 09/03/2011 20:52

The girls are 5. My 'friend's' dd is very very popular and singled out my dd to be her chum. I think my dd felt honoured and now I've stuck my oar in and reduced the time they spend together to be at school. But I was getting really cross with being put upon all the time. How do I explain that to dd?

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perfumedlife · 09/03/2011 21:11

Did 'friend' ask you to help out to let her do the airport run? Or did you offer?

rookiemater · 09/03/2011 21:12

I don't think you need to explain anything to your DD as she is only 5. For your dds sake have this girl over occasionally at times that are convenient for you, but stay away from anything else

ItsGrimUpNorth · 09/03/2011 21:55

She asked me to pick up whilst she did the airport run.

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WinkyWinkola · 09/03/2011 22:19

She sounds like either she can't cope or likes having people running around for her. Or both. Wise to keep distance.

I had a friend like this who confronted me about my avoiding her. It wasn't very nice and her view was that if people want to help then let them. My view was she took advantage of me and others. But some people are like that. It's up to you how much you let them take advantage.

atswimtwolengths · 09/03/2011 22:24

But what is the au pair doing when everyone in town is running around after your 'friend'?

nora12 · 09/03/2011 22:27

I had a friend like this too. Her dc went to a different school and I no longer hear from her much (now I'm no good for free childcare).

It's difficult though if your dc are good friends. Would agree, invite friend round only very occasionally and have a ready excuse for any requests for help.

Someone gave me a tip for excuses - I had a friend who kept bullying me into things - another friend said to give more vague excuses like - "we're really busy today" rather than actually telling her where you're going. Otherwise she would pick my excuse to pieces and say "well you could come to ours afterwards couldn't you".

perfumedlife · 09/03/2011 22:30

I would have smiled and said ' no, no can do '

No 'sorry', no 'I'm afraid I can't'. Just no. If someone is as bold as she is, they are well able to take regection on the chin.

If she wants your dd to play with her dd, the common thing is to invite your dd to her house. That may involve her, or the au pair, having to cook some dinner for the girls, and keep an eye out for them, which she is basically telling you she isn't prepared to do, and she knows you are soft enough to do it for her.

Get angry, don't allow her to treat you like this. Dd will get over it, will make new pals, and if this girl really wants her company, her mother will get her finger out.

beachyhead · 09/03/2011 22:30

Some people are givers and some are takers....my mother told me early on that's just the way it is. As long as you know who's a taker and who's a giver, then you can manage how it works....

Don't give too much to the takers and don't take too much from the givers and just enjoy them for the people they are...

WillIEverBeASizeTen · 09/03/2011 22:35

Tis very rare to find somebody who actually appreciates what you do rather than taking advantage of it...I'm afraid there aren't very many of them to the pound (or kilo:()

lazarusb · 10/03/2011 18:14

I have a friend who is similar (but not as extreme as your friend). I've told her that I won't be able to pick up her dcs one day a week (for the last 7 years) as from September as I am off to Uni. Her response was "Well who is going to do that then? I haven't got anyone else!". No congratulations or anything. I wish I was brave enough to put distance between us before this!

moodymama · 10/03/2011 18:29

Just tell her you've got something else on that day so can your DD go back to hers?

IAPJJLPJ · 10/03/2011 18:50

WillIEverBeASizeTen - I have met some fantastic school rum mums and we all help each other out. Hopefully you will find some soon - keep looking!!

WillIEverBeASizeTen · 10/03/2011 22:42

IAP..I wasn't the OP, however, even though I made that particular point, I had some very kind school run Mums, Dads and even Grandads n Grandmas who, without their support, I would have found the whole situation traumatic.

I also helped them in return. The appreciation was mutual.

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