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I don't want to answer his calls

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sarjose · 21/02/2011 16:40

My ex-partner,father of my 5 week old baby moved out when I was 8 months pregnant,I have posted on here before. He rings me every day sometimes several times to give me a run down of the latest thing on his mind,it's usually about one of his cars,how much they are costing to be fixed etc. He jabbers on for 5 minutes non stop I don't get a word in,then he promptly says 'anyway must go'and off he goes...I also get regular texts some relevant to our son but most not,I reply to the one's asking how our son is and usually ignore the others.I am sick of these phone calls and the constant contact so today I have not bothered answering the phone at all so now he's ringing and texting and the last text I had said 'stop taking the piss'. How am I taking the piss? He's the one who left I shouldn't have to listen to his crap anymore,all he ever talks about is himself and he makes no effort to have us in his life otherwise.I don't want to fall out with him but I don't want to be controlled by him anymore either,how do I deal with these small but consuming demands? He is a bossy,control freak and, I suspect, narcissist who has lied,cheated,been violent and then pleading in the past which stopped when I became pregnant then I must have no longer held any sort of appeal for him as like I said he walked away in late pregnancy. He has done so wrong yet still feels ok to come and go and expects me to be on the end of the flaming phone at any time! grrrr

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LittleMissHissyFit · 21/02/2011 21:43

My life of isolation taught me a number of techniques, one was to have rows/arguements with my 'H' when he wasn't there Blush I would say all the things I wanted to say, call him all the things I wanted to call him and cry all the tears I didn't want him to see.

It helped me get the frustration out, so I wouldn't internalise it, and I wouldn't take it out on the wrong person.

Mostly it worked.

I think sarjose has good reason to have that conversation, but the Ex doesn't need to hear it with his own ears. TBH, I don't think it'e make a jot of difference if he did, all he would get out of it would be that he has got a dialogue going with sarjose, and has an 'IN'.

Personally I don't think it's worth sarjose wasting her breath in a conversation with this guy. He is not interested in anyone else except himself. So tell him off, call him all the names under the sun, say all the things you would say if you knew he would listen, but outloud with only yourself to hear the words.

If he were a good guy who freaked and flipped, it's one thing, he isn't. he abused and walked out on a lady in her final weeks of PG with his child.

he is following the same sick script all abusers follow, to the letter.

Sarjose, you have done the right thing, you really have, keep focussed and keep looking ahead of you, if you look back and get sucked in by his I've changed honest I have bollocks, it'll be harder to get out the next time.

You are worth so much more. i bet he convinced you that you were lucky to be with him didn't he? Well he was lucky to be with you, he knew it and knew also that he couldn't compete, so he set about destroying you, crushing you so that he looked better and you hung on his every word... (projecting here aren't i? Grin)

If you have a stalker who calls you incessantly, and after 100 rings you finally answer, what has the stalker learned? That to get to you they have to make at least 100 calls. If you leave it to 200 calls the next time, the stalker knows they have to try harder.

if you never engage, cut all ways of communications and if you have DC leave only one method, but severely restricted, YOU dear sarjose have regained the upper hand.

One thing I am beginning to realise is that you can not apply normal logic to these abusive men, they don't think like normal people, you can't explain to them that xy or z really hurts and needs to stop and they will. They will hear xy and z is working, so will find another way of doing it or carry on regardless. You have to think like a winner, you are playing to win back your freedom.

Mouseface, the little I have heard of your story, you ought to lurk at least on that thread, get some questions answered. What have you got to be scared of?, you did nothing wrong, and IIRC your ex put you through 7 bells of hell. You are worth the investment mousey. If you want company over there all you have to do is PM me.

Sorry for the epic.... will trot off and earn some money now....

Back later..

sarjose · 21/02/2011 23:29

Thank you for your reply littlemiss, I feel like he is still playing with me but he has changed the rules somewhat,he has never left before and Im sure he gets some sort of kick out of that,even though I think Im not showing any weakness,Ive decided he must sense it somehow. He is on my mind ALL THE TIME. I definately have moved forward,ie Im not crying and emotional all the time,however the past 4 years Ive spent with him around is going round and round in my head,remembering incidents and trying to make some sense out of the whole relationship,I really need to work on just letting it go. I have read around the subject enough to believe that indeed he must be a narcissist,and whilst reading through the other thread I remembered more and more smaller incidents that I though were insignificant because they didn't result in physical violence. For example, he told me on more than one occasion that the first time he met me I wasn't all of that but he saw potential...Jesus,who says shit like that?? He went crazy when I sprayed deodorant in the next room and walked in while he was eating his cereal,just way over the top reaction,and he smashed a bottle of wine in the sink because he was 'sick of my buying wine'. He smashed 5 doors in my house,threw a coffee table at me,stabbed the bathroom door with a breadknife while I was hiding in there to get away from his temper,drove into the back of my car,punched me in the face repeatedly, whilst driving, for sleeping with someone else which I had done because I got so drunk I didn't care what I was doing,we had split as I had just found out he had had an affair and got a young lass pregnant (understandable I would react somehow?)I got into the back seat of the car and he screamed at me to get in the front and put my belt on for my own safety(LOL).He slammed the front door on me and I had to have my finger stitched up one new years eve because I was still talking when he was trying to make a speech about how much he loved me to his friends (LOL) BY THE WAY SORRY BUT IM ON A ROLL AND I NEED TO WRITE THIS ALL DOWN WHILE IM REMEMBERING IT. He threw a shoe at me for having a bath after visiting one of my (female) friends..he thought it was suspicious,he threw paving slabs at my front door when I wouldn't let him in once.He threw bottles,ashtrays,and glasses at me or near me..countless dents in the walls.He begged pleaded and threatened suicide when I ended it in the earlier days.He poured a bottle of fabric softener over me ( still cannot buy that brand the smell makes me sick),He put my parenting down,said I am far too soft with my kids and its no wonder they are like they are.He called me an alcoholic many many times,he punched a (male)friend in the face for being in my house (I had history with said male but before me and him even met and I was honest from the start). more Im sure but he blamed his dad,said hed learnt this behaviour from his dad and whilst I was pregnant he was not physically abusive...........needed that :)

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NonnoMum · 21/02/2011 23:34

Ok- just ignore my earlier post. Call Women's Aid.

sarjose · 21/02/2011 23:38

Im sorry,didn't mean to alarm,this physical stuff has not happened for a long time but it was therapeutic for me to write it down,once Id started I couldn't stop,I will save it and read it when Im feeling weak

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mankymummymoo · 21/02/2011 23:53

Good on you for staying strong.

Its easy to forget or get accustomed to things.

Print that out and put it somewhere you can see it when you need to.

EVERY time you have doubts / are thinking about the good times, you read that.

LittleMissHissyFit · 22/02/2011 00:11

It's so easy for them to gloss over the really shit things they do. My 'H' has hit, but mostly his abuse is verbal. relentless, tortuous over and over and over again. Setting tests and having me fail them. Investigating me, snooping on me and accusing me of everything under the sun.

it's not happened because you learnt to toe the line I think, you tip toed on egg shells.

Keep this information where you can see it and every time you wobble, take it out and read it.

What you are feeling is withdrawal, it'll take time but if you control access to you, you will get through this.

Ultimately, if he won't abide by your rules, call the police, and get CAB to advise you on how to take steps to legally stop contact with him.

MigratingCoconuts · 22/02/2011 10:16

Wow, mouseface was right, there was more to come out.

Good on you for getting that all out in the post.

Stay strong. Woman's aid might be a good thing. They could give you advice about how to stop the phone calls etc without making things any worse.

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